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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
July 22 2025 21:45 GMT
#1441
On July 23 2025 06:42 MJG wrote:
Italy's women just went through the full Italian playbook of dark arts after scoring in the first half against England, but they conceded an equaliser 90+6 and then lost in extra time. Feels good to see them upset with the way they play the game. Just as annoying as the men's team.


Timewasted enough that we had enough injury time to score and then gave away one of the silliest penalties I've seen on 117 minutes. What was that randomly pushing her over in the box nowhere near the ball?
The Italy manager complaining about England timewasting in the last 2 minutes was ridiculous after that second half.
England just getting through again somehow
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
July 22 2025 21:53 GMT
#1442
On July 23 2025 06:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2025 06:42 MJG wrote:
Italy's women just went through the full Italian playbook of dark arts after scoring in the first half against England, but they conceded an equaliser 90+6 and then lost in extra time. Feels good to see them upset with the way they play the game. Just as annoying as the men's team.


Timewasted enough that we had enough injury time to score and then gave away one of the silliest penalties I've seen on 117 minutes. What was that randomly pushing her over in the box nowhere near the ball?
The Italy manager complaining about England timewasting in the last 2 minutes was ridiculous after that second half.
England just getting through again somehow

They're definitely not making it easy for themselves.

But at least they've had lots of attacking intent in the last two games, so I've not been disheartened watching them yet. Don't know when they're done.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
July 22 2025 21:58 GMT
#1443
at least we know that england's shithousery is probably going to end against spain/germany
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
July 23 2025 06:11 GMT
#1444
On July 23 2025 06:58 GTR wrote:
at least we know that england's shithousery is probably going to end against spain/germany

I'm pretty sure only one team was employing deliberate shithousery last night and it wasn't the Lionesses!
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10155 Posts
July 23 2025 18:45 GMT
#1445
Ekitike confirmed to LFC. If we manage to flip Diaz into Rodrygo and get Guehi, this might be one of the greatest transfer windows in the history of football.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-23 18:49:00
July 23 2025 18:48 GMT
#1446
On July 24 2025 03:45 FlaShFTW wrote:
Ekitike confirmed to LFC. If we manage to flip Diaz into Rodrygo and get Guehi, this might be one of the greatest transfer windows in the history of football.

Meanwhile Forest have lost Elanga, almost certainly losing MGW once our owner stops playing silly buggers with the guy's career, and we've bought two relatively unknown Brazilians and failed at about 20 transfers by refusing to pay what clubs want.

Absolute disaster following a great season considering our main preseason training camp has started already.

I think we're in for the dreaded 'transitional' season.
RIP Meatloaf <3
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8649 Posts
July 24 2025 03:32 GMT
#1447
On July 24 2025 03:45 FlaShFTW wrote:
Ekitike confirmed to LFC. If we manage to flip Diaz into Rodrygo and get Guehi, this might be one of the greatest transfer windows in the history of football.

you guys have spent so much money this window that if even half your new signings flop you could be in a bit of trouble. feels like liverpool have gone all in on trying to build their future squad this window and wont have anything left in the bank to fix failed signings. unfortunately youre not man city
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25283 Posts
July 24 2025 03:58 GMT
#1448
On July 24 2025 12:32 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2025 03:45 FlaShFTW wrote:
Ekitike confirmed to LFC. If we manage to flip Diaz into Rodrygo and get Guehi, this might be one of the greatest transfer windows in the history of football.

you guys have spent so much money this window that if even half your new signings flop you could be in a bit of trouble. feels like liverpool have gone all in on trying to build their future squad this window and wont have anything left in the bank to fix failed signings. unfortunately youre not man city

That’s pretty unlikely to happen. Robertson has been in decline, they got one of the best left backs in the Prem. Trent goes and they pick up a solid replacement in Frimpong, bit more of a maybe giving the league transition. Wirtz is outright one of the best players of his type in Europe, I’ll be staggered if he sucks.

Etitike was pricey enough, and it’s incredibly sad but he’s a Jota replacement, and they probably don’t pick him up but for that.

It’s an insanely good window. End of the season I felt Arsenal + a forward, or Man City getting back to their best after an off season were the favourites. After Liverpool’s transfer business I stick them atop the pile (for now)
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
July 27 2025 02:42 GMT
#1449
Gibbs-White signs with Forest again.

Spurs fans are fuming. Can't blame them really.

Weird turn of events.
RIP Meatloaf <3
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18406 Posts
July 27 2025 13:00 GMT
#1450
Diaz sold cheaper than I expected tbh
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
July 27 2025 18:46 GMT
#1451
Status of football: Home!

Come on you Lionesses!!!
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2564 Posts
July 27 2025 18:51 GMT
#1452
First penalty shootout this EC that I have seen but holy shit they were so terrible. Congrats to the Lionesses!
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10155 Posts
July 28 2025 18:08 GMT
#1453
On July 27 2025 22:00 sharkie wrote:
Diaz sold cheaper than I expected tbh

Nah, he's getting older and wants a fat contract. There really isnt any buyers in the market outside of Bayern since Barca went with Rashford. Honestly, around 70m pound with addons is more than enough for us for him contract situation. He wanted to leave and get his last bag, we didn't want to pay it since he's aging. We wish him all the best and hope he succeeds. Really sucks that we're losing all the players this season with banger songs (Diaz, Chiesa, Jota </3)

On July 24 2025 12:32 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2025 03:45 FlaShFTW wrote:
Ekitike confirmed to LFC. If we manage to flip Diaz into Rodrygo and get Guehi, this might be one of the greatest transfer windows in the history of football.

you guys have spent so much money this window that if even half your new signings flop you could be in a bit of trouble. feels like liverpool have gone all in on trying to build their future squad this window and wont have anything left in the bank to fix failed signings. unfortunately youre not man city

If we do end up splashing on Isak and picking up Fofana/Rodrygo, and Guehi, yes I think it's an incredible amount of money to spend especially if some of these guys turn out to be flops (Ekitike in particular), but the rest of the signings have been known quantities or if they aren't, they're not that expensive. 40m on Frimpong and Kerkez each is fantastic business, and Wirtz is already known as one of if not the best CAM in the world. Really I'm just hoping for no serious injuries to our star players, that's what would derail our signings and season.

Plus outgoings are funding a reasonable chunk of our expenditures this season. Kelleher, Diaz, Trent, Quansah already gone for around 120m pounds total, then hope to add in Nunez for 50m, Chiesa for 15m, and Elliott for 30-40m for another 90-100m would bring out total outgoings to 200m to pay for the roughly 500m incomings (assuming everything goes accordingly to plan). We didn't spend at all last summer and no transfers in the winter either, so that money basically rolled over into this season. We'll still be set financially, and because of our policy of signing young players, we can always offload some of them for a small loss to recoup some of the investment.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25283 Posts
July 28 2025 22:53 GMT
#1454
It feels extremely strange, but combining men and women’s senior teams, and underage ones, England probably have a decent claim as the best footballing nation overall in relatively recent times.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18406 Posts
July 29 2025 06:44 GMT
#1455
On July 29 2025 03:08 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2025 22:00 sharkie wrote:
Diaz sold cheaper than I expected tbh

Nah, he's getting older and wants a fat contract. There really isnt any buyers in the market outside of Bayern since Barca went with Rashford. Honestly, around 70m pound with addons is more than enough for us for him contract situation. He wanted to leave and get his last bag, we didn't want to pay it since he's aging. We wish him all the best and hope he succeeds. Really sucks that we're losing all the players this season with banger songs (Diaz, Chiesa, Jota </3)

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2025 12:32 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On July 24 2025 03:45 FlaShFTW wrote:
Ekitike confirmed to LFC. If we manage to flip Diaz into Rodrygo and get Guehi, this might be one of the greatest transfer windows in the history of football.

you guys have spent so much money this window that if even half your new signings flop you could be in a bit of trouble. feels like liverpool have gone all in on trying to build their future squad this window and wont have anything left in the bank to fix failed signings. unfortunately youre not man city

If we do end up splashing on Isak and picking up Fofana/Rodrygo, and Guehi, yes I think it's an incredible amount of money to spend especially if some of these guys turn out to be flops (Ekitike in particular), but the rest of the signings have been known quantities or if they aren't, they're not that expensive. 40m on Frimpong and Kerkez each is fantastic business, and Wirtz is already known as one of if not the best CAM in the world. Really I'm just hoping for no serious injuries to our star players, that's what would derail our signings and season.

Plus outgoings are funding a reasonable chunk of our expenditures this season. Kelleher, Diaz, Trent, Quansah already gone for around 120m pounds total, then hope to add in Nunez for 50m, Chiesa for 15m, and Elliott for 30-40m for another 90-100m would bring out total outgoings to 200m to pay for the roughly 500m incomings (assuming everything goes accordingly to plan). We didn't spend at all last summer and no transfers in the winter either, so that money basically rolled over into this season. We'll still be set financially, and because of our policy of signing young players, we can always offload some of them for a small loss to recoup some of the investment.


As someone who follows Bundesliga I am more worried about Isak than Ekitike ^^
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
July 29 2025 07:56 GMT
#1456
On July 29 2025 07:53 WombaT wrote:
It feels extremely strange, but combining men and women’s senior teams, and underage ones, England probably have a decent claim as the best footballing nation overall in relatively recent times.


True. Where do you see Engerlands chances in WC next year? Cause I don't see Tommy making a decent team out of those clearly gifted players you guys got. It will be the same story as it always was
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25283 Posts
21 hours ago
#1457
On July 29 2025 16:56 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2025 07:53 WombaT wrote:
It feels extremely strange, but combining men and women’s senior teams, and underage ones, England probably have a decent claim as the best footballing nation overall in relatively recent times.


True. Where do you see Engerlands chances in WC next year? Cause I don't see Tommy making a decent team out of those clearly gifted players you guys got. It will be the same story as it always was

I don’t think you have to be a great side to win it, just good enough to scrape through.

I don’t think we’ve had a truly great men’s international side for quite a while, so really you just have to find a way

Other traditional powerhouses either have notable gaps in personnel in their teams, or aren’t hitting their potential for other reasons. France are maybe the only side with more top talent across all positions than England currently have, but I don’t know if Deschaumps is the man to harness that. Portugal insist on IMO handicapping their ability to compete against top sides by persisting with Ronaldo (and yes, I’m aware they won the Nation’s League!)

That said Tuchel has started a bit oddly, he’s doing the kind of moves Southgate did when he got the gig, but Southgate’s task was a rebuild and cultural reset, which he did very, very well even if he had other flaws. Tuchel’s job is to win right now in the short term, I’d have expected him to immediately start with what he thinks is his best side, and leave room to make some tweaks over the next while.

Honestly it’s not very sexy, I really think this might be a World Cup decided on the form, and especially the fitness of a handful of key players. We’ve already seen player’s struggling in the conditions of the Club World Cup, and this World Cup is being expanded to 48 teams.

If say, Rice, Palmer, Bellingham and Kane all have monster seasons and arrive pretty fresh at the WC, I think England have a good shot. If some of them are gassed, or injured, especially Kane and Rice who England don’t really have an equivalently good backup to, it’ll be tough.

Same goes for all sides really. I imagine say, German hopes will heavily rest on Musiala returning well from his horror injury, and rivalries aside I very much hope he does, and Wirtz being fit enough to play as he can

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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17987 Posts
20 hours ago
#1458
On July 29 2025 22:41 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2025 16:56 Harris1st wrote:
On July 29 2025 07:53 WombaT wrote:
It feels extremely strange, but combining men and women’s senior teams, and underage ones, England probably have a decent claim as the best footballing nation overall in relatively recent times.


True. Where do you see Engerlands chances in WC next year? Cause I don't see Tommy making a decent team out of those clearly gifted players you guys got. It will be the same story as it always was

I don’t think you have to be a great side to win it, just good enough to scrape through.

I don’t think we’ve had a truly great men’s international side for quite a while, so really you just have to find a way

Other traditional powerhouses either have notable gaps in personnel in their teams, or aren’t hitting their potential for other reasons. France are maybe the only side with more top talent across all positions than England currently have, but I don’t know if Deschaumps is the man to harness that. Portugal insist on IMO handicapping their ability to compete against top sides by persisting with Ronaldo (and yes, I’m aware they won the Nation’s League!)

That said Tuchel has started a bit oddly, he’s doing the kind of moves Southgate did when he got the gig, but Southgate’s task was a rebuild and cultural reset, which he did very, very well even if he had other flaws. Tuchel’s job is to win right now in the short term, I’d have expected him to immediately start with what he thinks is his best side, and leave room to make some tweaks over the next while.

Honestly it’s not very sexy, I really think this might be a World Cup decided on the form, and especially the fitness of a handful of key players. We’ve already seen player’s struggling in the conditions of the Club World Cup, and this World Cup is being expanded to 48 teams.

If say, Rice, Palmer, Bellingham and Kane all have monster seasons and arrive pretty fresh at the WC, I think England have a good shot. If some of them are gassed, or injured, especially Kane and Rice who England don’t really have an equivalently good backup to, it’ll be tough.

Same goes for all sides really. I imagine say, German hopes will heavily rest on Musiala returning well from his horror injury, and rivalries aside I very much hope he does, and Wirtz being fit enough to play as he can



I think that was sufficiently proven by the women's team. They were less good on the field than Spain. They were less good than France (to whom they lost). And there's a case to be made that they were less good than Sweden. But they were good enough to lose to France when it wasn't all that important, and to not lose to Spain (and Sweden) when it was.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18406 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-29 17:21:07
17 hours ago
#1459
Don't forget that Euro != World Cup. World cups are always won by the historically strong countries. Euro - any team in Europe can win it
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25283 Posts
17 hours ago
#1460
On July 30 2025 02:20 sharkie wrote:
Don't forget that Euro != World Cup. World cups are always won by the historically strong countries. Euro - any team in Europe can win it

Any team is a stretch, the Euros are basically similar to the GSL these days. It’s the strongest teams around in terms of who can actually win it, with a small number of absences. You win a GSL you’re beating the majority of absolute top players around,

In the women’s game you’re really only missing the USA, in the men’s it’s Brazil and Argentina, and Brazil despite their history have really not had a World Cup quality winning side for quite a while now.

If we’re going by tiers, the Euros have most S tier teams, and a World Cup adds a few. It maybe bumps up the number of A tier sides as well. A peak Uruguay for example, probably better than non-elite European sides but aren’t going to actually win a World Cup
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