EPT2024 - 2025 Football Thread - Page 14
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51487 Posts
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DropBear
Australia4353 Posts
Commentators saying he was signed 7 years ago, long time to wait for your first match! | ||
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gTank
Austria2567 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25396 Posts
On October 05 2024 22:09 DropBear wrote: Alisson has done his hammy, third choice gk Vitezslav Jaros comes on for his Liverpool debut. Commentators saying he was signed 7 years ago, long time to wait for your first match! He’s been in Liverpool so long he speaks English with a pretty pronounced Northern accent! Must be a strange life being a third choice goalkeeper, happy for him that he got his big shot in the limelight! | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10163 Posts
Ali getting injured again just shows that we need a great 2nd choice keeper like Kel (and Marmar when he comes off loan). Feels like he gets injured right when we enter a pretty crucial part of the season almost every year. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6931 Posts
On October 05 2024 03:36 RvB wrote: Ten Hag*. United has been a mess and a graveyard of managers since Ferguson quit. They need a coach on the level of Guardiola or Klopp to fix it with their current management. I rate Ten Hag highly but he's not on that level. Some rumors about Tommy Tuchs to ManU going around... this could actually be quite fitting. When everyone is eccentric, it might just be the new normal /middle xD | ||
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gTank
Austria2567 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6931 Posts
Klopp: Hold my | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10163 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25396 Posts
This made me laugh, granted I am currently sleep deprived. Given how many fans despise the whole Red Bull football enterprise though I gather Klopp’s rep is taking a bit of a hit with this move? | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
And imho they look like saints compared to the average PL team owner / sponsor and their investment style is what every club fan should wish for if someone was throwing a boat load of cash at their club. So this leaves us with the "issue" of them basically creating new clubs instead of taking over existing ones, but I honestly couldn't care much about that. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25396 Posts
On October 10 2024 04:33 mahrgell wrote: Outside of some football purist circles nobody takes serious anyway, how many people still have some real issue with Red Bulls involvement in the sport? And imho they look like saints compared to the average PL team owner / sponsor and their investment style is what every club fan should wish for if someone was throwing a boat load of cash at their club. So this leaves us with the "issue" of them basically creating new clubs instead of taking over existing ones, but I honestly couldn't care much about that. Rather a lot of people in Germany from what I’m aware of, and not just for partisan reasons or pining for a bygone age of gentlemanly amateurism. They’re not a PL team, that’s precisely the issue. The 50+1 rule isn’t perfect, but their quite blatant attempts to circumvent the spirit of that stipulation was something that left rather a bad taste. I have growing concerns about what these football groups of multiple clubs do to wider competitive balance as well, whether they introduce other conflicts of interest and whether they open mechanisms for clubs to skirt financial regulations. Be it the Red Bull group, or the City Football Group etc On the flipside being more positive, they’re both very well-run enterprises that put other shitshows to shame and if more of football was run as competently we’d be seeing a lot fewer financial crises. | ||
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aseq
Netherlands3978 Posts
But as Wombat said, I'd be very careful allowing these multi-club organisations to exist. I don't see what good is ever becoming of those for football in general. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13942 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25396 Posts
On October 10 2024 08:37 aseq wrote: Selling cans of poison and marketing towards a youthful audience isn't really something any employee of theirs should be proud of. But I don't have a problem with them managing 1 football team though, it's less bad than oil money, or most likely the way any other club owners like Abramovich or Glazer made their money. But as Wombat said, I'd be very careful allowing these multi-club organisations to exist. I don't see what good is ever becoming of those for football in general. Yeah it just sort of doesn’t sit well with me. Salzburg are very clearly below Leipzig in the pecking order, so no matter how well they’re run the latter will be prioritised. But they can still be very dominant in the Austrian Bundesliga nonetheless. So you get a club that is part of this chain that enables this domestic dominance, but it’s always capped at a certain point. Or Girona had a great season last time out, but if push comes to shove would they ever be let compete with Man City? | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6931 Posts
On October 10 2024 08:37 aseq wrote: Selling cans of poison and marketing towards a youthful audience isn't really something any employee of theirs should be proud of. But I don't have a problem with them managing 1 football team though, it's less bad than oil money, or most likely the way any other club owners like Abramovich or Glazer made their money. But as Wombat said, I'd be very careful allowing these multi-club organisations to exist. I don't see what good is ever becoming of those for football in general. That's over the top. If you look at it that way, 50% of the food industry sells poison: Basically every drink producer, all candy producer, all microwave ready food .... On October 10 2024 09:41 WombaT wrote: Yeah it just sort of doesn’t sit well with me. Salzburg are very clearly below Leipzig in the pecking order, so no matter how well they’re run the latter will be prioritised. But they can still be very dominant in the Austrian Bundesliga nonetheless. So you get a club that is part of this chain that enables this domestic dominance, but it’s always capped at a certain point. Or Girona had a great season last time out, but if push comes to shove would they ever be let compete with Man City? Salzburg is a big club only beeing second behind Leipzig because the austrian league is not as important as Bundesliga. I believe they had trouble one year because both Salzburg and Leipzig were not allowed to play in the same competition? Like they couldn't both be in CL or something? On Kloppo in general: I don't get the hate. Let the man do what he loves. He doesn't owe anybody anything. This entitled fan thinking makes me puke. Also new nickname: The Dosen One (stolen from X) | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25396 Posts
On October 10 2024 17:37 Harris1st wrote: That's over the top. If you look at it that way, 50% of the food industry sells poison: Basically every drink producer, all candy producer, all microwave ready food .... Salzburg is a big club only beeing second behind Leipzig because the austrian league is not as important as Bundesliga. I believe they had trouble one year because both Salzburg and Leipzig were not allowed to play in the same competition? Like they couldn't both be in CL or something? On Kloppo in general: I don't get the hate. Let the man do what he loves. He doesn't owe anybody anything. This entitled fan thinking makes me puke. Also new nickname: The Dosen One (stolen from X) What’s the Dosen one in reference to? I think fans can certainly be ridiculously entitled, they may have something of a point here. I don’t doubt it was genuine but Klopp really made a visible effort to connect with fans on that more traditional cultural level. That football is about more than just the game and glory. He’s taking flak for that perceived hypocrisy in a way that plenty of other folks who say ‘I’m just a football manager’ maybe wouldn’t. I like Klopp and don’t think he should be burned at the stake or anything but I think it’s a legitimate criticism. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6931 Posts
On October 10 2024 19:58 WombaT wrote: What’s the Dosen one in reference to? I think fans can certainly be ridiculously entitled, they may have something of a point here. I don’t doubt it was genuine but Klopp really made a visible effort to connect with fans on that more traditional cultural level. That football is about more than just the game and glory. He’s taking flak for that perceived hypocrisy in a way that plenty of other folks who say ‘I’m just a football manager’ maybe wouldn’t. I like Klopp and don’t think he should be burned at the stake or anything but I think it’s a legitimate criticism. Ah man. If you have to explain a joke it isn't funny xD Could also just be language barrier so here we go: You know the "Chosen One" Mourinho. Klopps answer was he is the "Normal One" compared to that. Now a "can" in German is "Dose" ( Red Bull) Since the new job Klopp is not the Normal one anymore for the mentioned reasons by you and others. Here comes the wordplay of Chosen meets Dose hence the "Dosen One" | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25396 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
Those forums are a good laugh right now if you are not invested into getting this year's game. | ||
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