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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7195 Posts
March 14 2024 10:25 GMT
#1581
I tried to rate on a basis of how each teams plays on a good day/ bad day paired with a smidge of who I would give the advantage vs every other team. All higly sdubjective
Man City is favorite vs everyone
Bayern is favorite vs everyone but City
Real Madrid isn't really a favorite, more like a roach. Just won't die
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
March 14 2024 12:13 GMT
#1582
On March 14 2024 18:22 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 17:53 Harris1st wrote:
Remaining teams in order from favorite to underdog IMO:

Manchester City
FC Bayern
Real Madrid
FC Arsenal
FC Barcelona
Paris Saint-Germain
Borussia Dortmund
Atlético Madrid

Manchester City
Real Madrid
FC Bayern
Arsenal
Paris Saint-Germain
Athletico Madrid
FC Barcelona
Dortmund

Would be my ranking. Yours is pretty solid like I’d personally make a few swaps but pretty on the money.

I feel Real have the intangible clutch factor (see me literally predicting them losing in every round only for them to lose last time they won) over Bayern. But Bayern may have the benefit of being able to 100% focus on the CL with the league so far out of their grasp. That’s pretty much a crapshoot.

PSG just aren’t that good so I’d put Arsenal ahead, despite a ropey performance again Porto, but I could see Mbappe on fire carrying them through a tie or two.

Despite my complaint earlier that Athletico’s modus operandi in recent years is knocking one decent side out and then doing nothing, I still think they have the steel and nous over Dortmund, and it’s not like Dortmund are an unbelievable attacking side either. Barca IMO just aren’t that good currently, not terrible by any means but they’re as much their name and history as they are a currently top side.

City are clearly the best side in the competition, but they’ve been that IMO for like half a decade so it’s no guarantee of anything.


Id argue Liverpool was as good or even stronger in the CL than City
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10398 Posts
March 14 2024 15:38 GMT
#1583
On March 14 2024 21:13 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 18:22 WombaT wrote:
On March 14 2024 17:53 Harris1st wrote:
Remaining teams in order from favorite to underdog IMO:

Manchester City
FC Bayern
Real Madrid
FC Arsenal
FC Barcelona
Paris Saint-Germain
Borussia Dortmund
Atlético Madrid

Manchester City
Real Madrid
FC Bayern
Arsenal
Paris Saint-Germain
Athletico Madrid
FC Barcelona
Dortmund

Would be my ranking. Yours is pretty solid like I’d personally make a few swaps but pretty on the money.

I feel Real have the intangible clutch factor (see me literally predicting them losing in every round only for them to lose last time they won) over Bayern. But Bayern may have the benefit of being able to 100% focus on the CL with the league so far out of their grasp. That’s pretty much a crapshoot.

PSG just aren’t that good so I’d put Arsenal ahead, despite a ropey performance again Porto, but I could see Mbappe on fire carrying them through a tie or two.

Despite my complaint earlier that Athletico’s modus operandi in recent years is knocking one decent side out and then doing nothing, I still think they have the steel and nous over Dortmund, and it’s not like Dortmund are an unbelievable attacking side either. Barca IMO just aren’t that good currently, not terrible by any means but they’re as much their name and history as they are a currently top side.

City are clearly the best side in the competition, but they’ve been that IMO for like half a decade so it’s no guarantee of anything.


Id argue Liverpool was as good or even stronger in the CL than City

True and factual. Fucking Madrid though... Should've had that CL in 2022...

Favorites: City, Real Madrid
Semi-final/Final hopefuls but unlikely to win: Bayern, Arsenal
Upset potentials: Athletico
Rest: PSG, Dortmund, Barcelona
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26778 Posts
March 14 2024 20:14 GMT
#1584
On March 14 2024 21:13 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 18:22 WombaT wrote:
On March 14 2024 17:53 Harris1st wrote:
Remaining teams in order from favorite to underdog IMO:

Manchester City
FC Bayern
Real Madrid
FC Arsenal
FC Barcelona
Paris Saint-Germain
Borussia Dortmund
Atlético Madrid

Manchester City
Real Madrid
FC Bayern
Arsenal
Paris Saint-Germain
Athletico Madrid
FC Barcelona
Dortmund

Would be my ranking. Yours is pretty solid like I’d personally make a few swaps but pretty on the money.

I feel Real have the intangible clutch factor (see me literally predicting them losing in every round only for them to lose last time they won) over Bayern. But Bayern may have the benefit of being able to 100% focus on the CL with the league so far out of their grasp. That’s pretty much a crapshoot.

PSG just aren’t that good so I’d put Arsenal ahead, despite a ropey performance again Porto, but I could see Mbappe on fire carrying them through a tie or two.

Despite my complaint earlier that Athletico’s modus operandi in recent years is knocking one decent side out and then doing nothing, I still think they have the steel and nous over Dortmund, and it’s not like Dortmund are an unbelievable attacking side either. Barca IMO just aren’t that good currently, not terrible by any means but they’re as much their name and history as they are a currently top side.

City are clearly the best side in the competition, but they’ve been that IMO for like half a decade so it’s no guarantee of anything.


Id argue Liverpool was as good or even stronger in the CL than City

Yeah, certainly a good case for them there.

I think City probably won less on the European stage than how good they were. Like Lippi’s Juventus and Pep’s Barca they didn’t convert being probably the best sides in Europe to as many European trophies.

Zidane/Ancelotti Real Madrid sides IMO converted more than one would expect. Fair play to them but I don’t think winning the CL necessarily means you’re Europe’s absolute best side.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18290 Posts
March 14 2024 20:38 GMT
#1585
On March 15 2024 05:14 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 21:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 14 2024 18:22 WombaT wrote:
On March 14 2024 17:53 Harris1st wrote:
Remaining teams in order from favorite to underdog IMO:

Manchester City
FC Bayern
Real Madrid
FC Arsenal
FC Barcelona
Paris Saint-Germain
Borussia Dortmund
Atlético Madrid

Manchester City
Real Madrid
FC Bayern
Arsenal
Paris Saint-Germain
Athletico Madrid
FC Barcelona
Dortmund

Would be my ranking. Yours is pretty solid like I’d personally make a few swaps but pretty on the money.

I feel Real have the intangible clutch factor (see me literally predicting them losing in every round only for them to lose last time they won) over Bayern. But Bayern may have the benefit of being able to 100% focus on the CL with the league so far out of their grasp. That’s pretty much a crapshoot.

PSG just aren’t that good so I’d put Arsenal ahead, despite a ropey performance again Porto, but I could see Mbappe on fire carrying them through a tie or two.

Despite my complaint earlier that Athletico’s modus operandi in recent years is knocking one decent side out and then doing nothing, I still think they have the steel and nous over Dortmund, and it’s not like Dortmund are an unbelievable attacking side either. Barca IMO just aren’t that good currently, not terrible by any means but they’re as much their name and history as they are a currently top side.

City are clearly the best side in the competition, but they’ve been that IMO for like half a decade so it’s no guarantee of anything.


Id argue Liverpool was as good or even stronger in the CL than City

Yeah, certainly a good case for them there.

I think City probably won less on the European stage than how good they were. Like Lippi’s Juventus and Pep’s Barca they didn’t convert being probably the best sides in Europe to as many European trophies.

Zidane/Ancelotti Real Madrid sides IMO converted more than one would expect. Fair play to them but I don’t think winning the CL necessarily means you’re Europe’s absolute best side.


Real Madrid are the Rogue/$o$ of football. They aren't always good, and it's easy to hate them, but they have an undeniable clutch factor.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28797 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-14 21:27:09
March 14 2024 20:48 GMT
#1586
Only Sparta* Praha but 4-0 after 14 minutes is kinda special anyway
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
March 14 2024 21:50 GMT
#1587
This is Liverpool's trophy to lose
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4297 Posts
March 15 2024 00:26 GMT
#1588
On March 15 2024 00:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 21:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 14 2024 18:22 WombaT wrote:
On March 14 2024 17:53 Harris1st wrote:
Remaining teams in order from favorite to underdog IMO:

Manchester City
FC Bayern
Real Madrid
FC Arsenal
FC Barcelona
Paris Saint-Germain
Borussia Dortmund
Atlético Madrid

Manchester City
Real Madrid
FC Bayern
Arsenal
Paris Saint-Germain
Athletico Madrid
FC Barcelona
Dortmund

Would be my ranking. Yours is pretty solid like I’d personally make a few swaps but pretty on the money.

I feel Real have the intangible clutch factor (see me literally predicting them losing in every round only for them to lose last time they won) over Bayern. But Bayern may have the benefit of being able to 100% focus on the CL with the league so far out of their grasp. That’s pretty much a crapshoot.

PSG just aren’t that good so I’d put Arsenal ahead, despite a ropey performance again Porto, but I could see Mbappe on fire carrying them through a tie or two.

Despite my complaint earlier that Athletico’s modus operandi in recent years is knocking one decent side out and then doing nothing, I still think they have the steel and nous over Dortmund, and it’s not like Dortmund are an unbelievable attacking side either. Barca IMO just aren’t that good currently, not terrible by any means but they’re as much their name and history as they are a currently top side.

City are clearly the best side in the competition, but they’ve been that IMO for like half a decade so it’s no guarantee of anything.


Id argue Liverpool was as good or even stronger in the CL than City

True and factual. Fucking Madrid though... Should've had that CL in 2022...

Favorites: City, Real Madrid
Semi-final/Final hopefuls but unlikely to win: Bayern, Arsenal
Upset potentials: Athletico
Rest: PSG, Dortmund, Barcelona


I would put Arsenal in the rest category and porto showed you why. Arsenal is missing the CL experience factor. They started nervous against Porto in London! What will happen against a proper team? if they get other than Dortmund this round, they should be out.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7195 Posts
March 15 2024 10:04 GMT
#1589
On March 15 2024 06:50 sharkie wrote:
This is Liverpool's trophy to lose


On paper it should be between Liverpool and Leverkusen with Liverpool beeing the favorites.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
March 15 2024 10:10 GMT
#1590
Changes to the U17 world cup:
- now every year (before: every 2)
- 48 teams (before: 24)
- until 2029 they will always be played in Qatar, reasoning: "sustainability"
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2610 Posts
March 15 2024 10:50 GMT
#1591
On March 15 2024 19:04 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 06:50 sharkie wrote:
This is Liverpool's trophy to lose


On paper it should be between Liverpool and Leverkusen with Liverpool beeing the favorites.


I am cheering for Leverkusen to win the triple this year, not even losing one game.
Such an epic story.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51595 Posts
March 15 2024 11:06 GMT
#1592
leverkusen vs qarabag was insane... schick with two injury time goals to advance leverkusen to the next round 5-4 on aggregate.
Commentator
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2610 Posts
March 15 2024 11:18 GMT
#1593
Leverkusen is a team that plays very intelligently, and even though the games look close at times, they are able to perform really well. They stomped Bayern 3:0 looking super strong.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
March 15 2024 13:19 GMT
#1594
I rate Leverkusen highly but the games vs Qarabag showed that they are missing the confidence and experience in Europe to be a threat to Liverpool imo.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28797 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-15 14:09:15
March 15 2024 14:07 GMT
#1595
Oh damn, what a QF draw.

Arsenal - Bayern, dortmund - atletico, RM - City, PSG-barcelona.

Two teams are facing tougher QF competition than they will face in the semi.

From a power rank perspective it's arguably 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4, 5 vs 6 and 7 vs 8.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7195 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-15 14:12:27
March 15 2024 14:09 GMT
#1596
Love the draw!

FC Arsenal - FC Bayern
Atlético Madrid - Borussia Dortmund
Real Madrid - Manchester City
Paris Saint-Germain - FC Barcelona

AC Mailand - AS Rom
FC Liverpool - Atalanta Bergamo
Bayer Leverkusen - West Ham United
Benfica Lissabon - Olympique Marseille

My guesses in bold
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10398 Posts
March 15 2024 14:59 GMT
#1597
On March 15 2024 23:09 Harris1st wrote:
Love the draw!

FC Arsenal - FC Bayern
Atlético Madrid - Borussia Dortmund
Real Madrid - Manchester City
Paris Saint-Germain - FC Barcelona

AC Mailand - AS Rom
FC Liverpool - Atalanta Bergamo
Bayer Leverkusen - West Ham United
Benfica Lissabon - Olympique Marseille

My guesses in bold

I have the same as you. Couldn't ask for a better draw as an LFC fan. Plus the home 2nd leg in the semifinals is great too. I'd be happy to face either Leverkusen or Milan in the finals, which if all goes accordingly, one of them will make it.

Insane draw for UCL, an underdog from one side will for sure make it, and one of the powerhouse teams will make it from the other side.
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4297 Posts
March 15 2024 15:12 GMT
#1598
On March 15 2024 23:09 Harris1st wrote:
Love the draw!

FC Arsenal - FC Bayern
Atlético Madrid - Borussia Dortmund
Real Madrid - Manchester City
Paris Saint-Germain - FC Barcelona

AC Mailand - AS Rom
FC Liverpool - Atalanta Bergamo
Bayer Leverkusen - West Ham United
Benfica Lissabon - Olympique Marseille

My guesses in bold


I see PSG over Barcelona and Marseille over Benfica, but other than that agreed.

Worse is that this will lead to Bayern vs City in the semis and PSG/Atlético with a good chance for a final.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
March 15 2024 15:15 GMT
#1599
If Atlético can make the final I am sure it will be good. Inter also didnt disappoint last year
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7195 Posts
March 15 2024 15:22 GMT
#1600
On March 16 2024 00:15 sharkie wrote:
If Atlético can make the final I am sure it will be good. Inter also didnt disappoint last year


Inter tried to play football. The only thing Atletico does is try not to play football.

I think there is a 0% chance that a final with Atletico in it will be good
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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