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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10563 Posts
February 19 2024 18:39 GMT
#1401
Can we please stop getting injuries... jesus christ we're going to be hobbling into the Carabao final and also City in 3 weeks...

Ali, Matip, Trent, Thiago, Baj, Szobo, Jones, Jota are all out now, maybe even Nunez. There goes our midfield and our front 3 depth. Thank god we got Endo back in time but now we have basically no depth anywhere on the pitch outside of our back 4, which is the least likely spot to even need subs in the first place.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-19 20:16:48
February 19 2024 20:16 GMT
#1402
Welcome to chelsea season xD

Also in meme land...

[Plettenberg] News #Solskjær: FC Bayern is monitoring the 50 y/o - as a potential interim solution! But the original plan remains: FC Bayern would like to continue with Thomas Tuchel at least until the end of the season!
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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2666 Posts
February 19 2024 20:21 GMT
#1403
At this point, I would not go to Bayern as Solskjaer, he pwned them back in 1999 and in this condition, lots of things are so wrong at the club. Dont know if any coach would be able to fix that many issues.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10563 Posts
February 19 2024 21:29 GMT
#1404
On February 20 2024 05:16 Pandemona wrote:
Welcome to chelsea season xD

Also in meme land...

[Plettenberg] News #Solskjær: FC Bayern is monitoring the 50 y/o - as a potential interim solution! But the original plan remains: FC Bayern would like to continue with Thomas Tuchel at least until the end of the season!

Yall are going to have a much more intact starting XI than we will when we play. Without Szobo and Jones, our midfield domination of our last meeting is going to look a lot different.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 19 2024 22:09 GMT
#1405
Yes for sure we have some injuries back now, we have a lot out still, but the 7 we have out injured now is less than the 12 we been running all season haha. Silva should be back and so should Badiashile i think, hopefully we actually get some luck going into this one.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
February 19 2024 22:21 GMT
#1406
On February 20 2024 05:16 Pandemona wrote:
Welcome to chelsea season xD

Also in meme land...

[Plettenberg] News #Solskjær: FC Bayern is monitoring the 50 y/o - as a potential interim solution! But the original plan remains: FC Bayern would like to continue with Thomas Tuchel at least until the end of the season!

Why would they ever hire that guy?!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8925 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-20 02:15:52
February 20 2024 02:15 GMT
#1407
solksjaer is underrated. he did a very good job at united and it was only after ronaldos sudden transfer that things started to fall apart.
obviously you wouldnt put him in the category of bayern munich level permanent coaches but as an interim id trust him to get some results
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2110 Posts
February 20 2024 08:09 GMT
#1408
As far as I can tell, the four things they can target are:

- Recover in Bundesliga (Unlikely if Leverkusen keeps up the pace, but maybe worth a shot)
- Recover in UCL (Should be doable, it's just Lazio and 1-0 after all)
- Do whatever you need to set up a nice start for the next season (keep core players happy, start drilling the future playstyle and so on).
- Play entertaining football. If you don't get the desired trophies, you can at least entertain.

No idea which ones they go for and who fits the profile.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2666 Posts
February 20 2024 08:19 GMT
#1409
I heard some ex-german pro players complain that rather than getting a new coach, they should get rid of some players and rebuild with the money they get of them, namely Kimmich, Gnabry, Davies, Upamecano (of course him :D).

If you think about it, this is also a valid approach. They had top coaches for the last couple of years and after winning CL, some things didnt go well. Last season, they rather got lucky to win the league, only because Dortmund are such a shit team.
Also, in the national team, some players are having the same problems as at the club.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7407 Posts
February 20 2024 08:24 GMT
#1410
On February 20 2024 17:09 Bacillus wrote:
As far as I can tell, the four things they can target are:

- Recover in Bundesliga (Unlikely if Leverkusen keeps up the pace, but maybe worth a shot)
- Recover in UCL (Should be doable, it's just Lazio and 1-0 after all)
- Do whatever you need to set up a nice start for the next season (keep core players happy, start drilling the future playstyle and so on).
- Play entertaining football. If you don't get the desired trophies, you can at least entertain.

No idea which ones they go for and who fits the profile.


Like I said a few pages back:
Get a manager for a year without much transfer money available. Squeezing whats left in the current squad
Get Kloppo the year after and let him do his rebuild thingy with money available.

For this year, Bundesliga is lost. At this point they might even become 3rd.
UCL, home game vs Lazio is doable, like you said.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
February 20 2024 13:03 GMT
#1411
On February 20 2024 17:24 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2024 17:09 Bacillus wrote:
As far as I can tell, the four things they can target are:

- Recover in Bundesliga (Unlikely if Leverkusen keeps up the pace, but maybe worth a shot)
- Recover in UCL (Should be doable, it's just Lazio and 1-0 after all)
- Do whatever you need to set up a nice start for the next season (keep core players happy, start drilling the future playstyle and so on).
- Play entertaining football. If you don't get the desired trophies, you can at least entertain.

No idea which ones they go for and who fits the profile.


Like I said a few pages back:
Get a manager for a year without much transfer money available. Squeezing whats left in the current squad
Get Kloppo the year after and let him do his rebuild thingy with money available.

For this year, Bundesliga is lost. At this point they might even become 3rd.
UCL, home game vs Lazio is doable, like you said.


The problem with that would mean not being champion for two years straight. Hoeneß would rather die than allow this to happen willingly
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27386 Posts
February 20 2024 13:17 GMT
#1412
On February 20 2024 11:15 evilfatsh1t wrote:
solksjaer is underrated. he did a very good job at united and it was only after ronaldos sudden transfer that things started to fall apart.
obviously you wouldnt put him in the category of bayern munich level permanent coaches but as an interim id trust him to get some results

He did a good job at United initially, IMO too good a job for the longer-term health of the club. But hey that’s not his fault! He’s still a bit of an odd fit for me for this particular gig.

1. He’s a United legend who was at the club for years. That did see fruit when that intangible boost, plus him seemingly being a very nice bloke managed to exorcise the ghost of latter-day Mourinho negativity. He isn’t a Bayern Munich legend, and I’m not saying it’s the world’s most happy camp, but is the issue really a deep-seated morale issue that he could uplift with his personality? I don’t know there.

2. Ole got United doing basically one thing really well at times in his tenure. Incisive counter-attacking football, using newly enthused young talent rather well even if at times in big statement wins (PSG, City games iirc) they’d ‘park the bus’ a bit. United never really implemented either some sophisticated pressing game, or one that dominated the ball and controlled games that way. Solskjaer’s aforementioned plan A fell apart because, as you point out Ronaldo came in and basically couldn’t run anymore.

It hasn’t always come off but Bayern have shown for years and years now that they’re at least trying to be close to the tactical cutting edge of the game. They had Guardiola and all he brings. Flick had them playing some excellent stuff, Nagelsman was a clear hire of one of the most promising pressing disciples around and Tuchel has a reputation and history as someone very good in tactical sophistication too.

Full respect to Ole but it makes absolutely zero sense for me to hire the guy who hasn’t implemented either of the two main things you’ve been trying to do for years. Hell, other baggage aside I don’t think even someone like Mourinho is stylistically a good fit.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51693 Posts
February 20 2024 21:17 GMT
#1413
is there a reason why bayern aren't looking at poaching sebastian hoeness from stuttgart? munich born, uncle was former president at bayern and has taken an underrated stuttgart team to a top 4 position.
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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2666 Posts
February 20 2024 22:13 GMT
#1414
Oliver Glasner finally getting a new position as coach, happy about that!
Hoeness could work even, don't know why he doesnt want to work with his criminal uncle though.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7407 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-21 09:26:03
February 21 2024 09:19 GMT
#1415
My guess:
Bayern doesn't want to (yet) cause Hoeneß is inexperienced.
Hoeneß doesn't wanto to (yet) cause business at Bayern is cutthroat and can end your career before it really started

I can see both becomming less of an issues 1-5 years down the line

EDIT:
THIS JUST IN: TUCHEL DONE AFTER THE SEASON!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
February 21 2024 09:44 GMT
#1416
So now Bayern can fire Tuchel any time. Officially he has the time till the end of the season but the next bad result means he will have to go even sooner.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2666 Posts
February 21 2024 16:38 GMT
#1417
It was expected but I think they should get rid of players like Kimmich, Gnabry and Goretzka too.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
February 21 2024 17:03 GMT
#1418
I agree with Gnabry (too many injuries the last 2 years) and Goretzka (is a borderline world class CM, would be beloved in the premier league). Kimmich is a really difficult decision. Yes he hasnt been the best lately but when they let Kimmich go they lose their future "Mia san mia" character once Müller retires. Can Bayern survive that? Its what made Bayern Bayern after all
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2666 Posts
February 21 2024 19:15 GMT
#1419
On February 22 2024 02:03 sharkie wrote:
I agree with Gnabry (too many injuries the last 2 years) and Goretzka (is a borderline world class CM, would be beloved in the premier league). Kimmich is a really difficult decision. Yes he hasnt been the best lately but when they let Kimmich go they lose their future "Mia san mia" character once Müller retires. Can Bayern survive that? Its what made Bayern Bayern after all



Yes they will lose their mia san mia guy but its not hard to build up another one, also Kimmich sucks also in the german national squad as well. He needs either humbling or a new view on things, and he will get criticized wwhen staying at Bayern no matter what. He is not up to being a strong character as Müller. Not made of what it takes to still deliver plus being a great leader. Having quarrels with coaching stuff doesnt help too.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
February 21 2024 21:01 GMT
#1420
What a comeback by Liverpool with almost every key player (offensively) missing
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