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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 24 2021 21:23 GMT
#1501
its easily a massive win for the warriors already even without the picks panning out, warriors are a FAR better team with wiggins than with dlo, and minny has just been same old same old, sub 500 atm and maybe make the play in.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 24 2021 21:59 GMT
#1502
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 25 2021 01:21 GMT
#1503
Well, they had Klay/Draymond as their 4th best player in the past. Better depth this year though. Poole can have the Jamal Crawford role off the bench. Porter and Bjelica seem to be working out well so far and Payton has been great to start the season. Coincidentally, Bjelica was with Wiggins in Minny for a few years. There is clearly something wrong in the water over there.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 06 2022 01:30 GMT
#1504
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 06 2022 02:05 GMT
#1505
On January 06 2022 10:30 JimmiC wrote:
Lance Stevnesen is poppin off for the Pacers, 20 points in the first quarter!

He is definitely a guy that is a coulda/ woulda guy.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 06 2022 02:21 GMT
#1506
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 06 2022 04:16 GMT
#1507
On January 06 2022 11:21 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2022 11:05 cLutZ wrote:
On January 06 2022 10:30 JimmiC wrote:
Lance Stevnesen is poppin off for the Pacers, 20 points in the first quarter!

He is definitely a guy that is a coulda/ woulda guy.

He is most definetly not lacking in talent or ability.


With a better mentality could have been a Jimmy Butler, Derozan, PG, level guy.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 06 2022 14:18 GMT
#1508
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
January 06 2022 22:35 GMT
#1509
On January 06 2022 23:18 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2022 13:16 cLutZ wrote:
On January 06 2022 11:21 JimmiC wrote:
On January 06 2022 11:05 cLutZ wrote:
On January 06 2022 10:30 JimmiC wrote:
Lance Stevnesen is poppin off for the Pacers, 20 points in the first quarter!

He is definitely a guy that is a coulda/ woulda guy.

He is most definetly not lacking in talent or ability.


With a better mentality could have been a Jimmy Butler, Derozan, PG, level guy.

I think so, or at the very worst a guy every year fighting for 6th man of the year with consistent great defense and some pop off offensive games.

Also on Derozan, how does that guy get better every single year? Most one dimensional high volume low efficiency scorers just stay that way, now he is like transforming the bulls into a contender. He got better every year with the raps but he was not this!


i thought the knock on derozan was because of his playoff performances and/or that his teams didnt win said playoff games.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 07 2022 16:14 GMT
#1510
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
January 08 2022 00:02 GMT
#1511
Those OKC teams were filled with 3 or D role players. Their defenders couldn't shoot and their shooters couldn't guard anyone.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-08 02:33:56
January 08 2022 02:25 GMT
#1512
On January 08 2022 01:14 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2022 07:35 zev318 wrote:
On January 06 2022 23:18 JimmiC wrote:
On January 06 2022 13:16 cLutZ wrote:
On January 06 2022 11:21 JimmiC wrote:
On January 06 2022 11:05 cLutZ wrote:
On January 06 2022 10:30 JimmiC wrote:
Lance Stevnesen is poppin off for the Pacers, 20 points in the first quarter!

He is definitely a guy that is a coulda/ woulda guy.

He is most definetly not lacking in talent or ability.


With a better mentality could have been a Jimmy Butler, Derozan, PG, level guy.

I think so, or at the very worst a guy every year fighting for 6th man of the year with consistent great defense and some pop off offensive games.

Also on Derozan, how does that guy get better every single year? Most one dimensional high volume low efficiency scorers just stay that way, now he is like transforming the bulls into a contender. He got better every year with the raps but he was not this!


i thought the knock on derozan was because of his playoff performances and/or that his teams didnt win said playoff games.

That is, but I think the reasoning for why he couldn't win was the one dimensional inefficient scorer. I also think its prety unfair because those celtic and heat teams were pretty freakin stacked! If he was with bosh and wade or Lebron he might have been a winner! It will be interesting to see how the bulls do because they seem like they will be over matched by the bucks and certainly the nets if they are at full power, but with health Covid and all that it will be interesting to see.


I've been thinking lately, and take this with a grain of salt because of the ages involved, but the storey was always that Durrant couldn't get in done in OKC with enough talent around him. But Lebron is doing a hell of a lot worse with Westbrook than Durrant did. I think it is pretty clear that Bosh and Wade were a hell of a lot better twosome than Ibaka and Westbrook when it comes to winning. And that is before you take into account that the heat had the easier east to move through.

LBJ has Davis (though hes hurt a ton) who is much better than Ibaka and Westbrook and he is unable to figure out how to make it work. I think this is helping Durrants Legacy, if he can win a championship or two more the greatest player of the generation will at least be a discussion IMO.

I know this is an unpopular take


where is harden, i think even in his last year OKC (year 3), he is better than anyone not lebron/davis on the lakers right now tbh as bad as that sounds. AD literally is playing like someone took his balls (not basketballs). lakers completely fucked themselves with the westbrook trade, their bench/d is all gone, which was a big part of why they were so successful in their title year. and i think lebron could've won in OKC if u put him on that team, however i do agree that wade/bosh as a duo was a better fit for a championship team (they were also MUCH more experienced than russ/harden at that point).

speaking of harden, is this just a bad year for him or....? i think his shooting numbers are all career lows, only better than his rookie year. TO% is highest in his career
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 08 2022 02:44 GMT
#1513
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-08 19:36:27
January 08 2022 19:30 GMT
#1514
Harden has declined athletically. He still can drive if he wants to, but he's coasting a lot in games. His shot also looks off. Especially the step back 3, he just can't elevate like he used to which leads to lots of bricks. There's also the issue with him trying to get fouled in way too many possesions. His passing is still good, though. Not elite, but good. On the Nets in general: KD is still KD, which is kinda absurd considering his injury and age. The dude just is walking bucket. With Kyrie they get more movement and scoring, their perimeter defense also improves. I won't comment on the vaccination issue.

But they seriously lack rebounding / rim presence. Griffin is a non factor by now, LMA still can score from the midrange, but is old as well. Claxton has talent, but is still very inconsistent. They got absolutely hammered by the Grizzlies, Adams was feasting the whole game. Their rotations are also weird. KD is playing too many minutes imho. I know he just loves to ball, but with his past, Nash should find a way to give him more rest.

@Lakers: I think they're about to figure sth out. With LBJ at center, they get better spacing. Monk can score, Westbrook is forced to pass more. Even THT played better in their last games. Melo is old af, but deadly from 3 rn, at least in home games. The big question is whether AD can find a spot in this system. Putting him at the 4 should be great theoretically, but his outside shooting looked off this season. I have nothing but respect for the things Lebron does at 37. Westbrook on the other hand has to calm down somehow. If he stops turning the ball over 8 times per game, they can at least make the playoffs. I don't see them winning a series vs healthy GS or PHX though.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
January 08 2022 20:57 GMT
#1515
Small percentages can sometimes mean the difference between an elite player and a good player. When a player is shooting 20 times a game, one less bailout call per game can cause a 5% drop in fg%. Some players are having a harder time adjusting to the new rule emphasis than others and I believe that foul baiting played a huge role in Harden's superstardom. Players such as Durant and Curry that are less reliant on it are having better years in comparison.

The Warriors, for example, were roughly 20th in free throw attempts per game in their best year during their championship contending years. And that was with Durant there. It's no wonder they are adjusting better to less foul baiting calls than most other teams.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 08 2022 23:08 GMT
#1516
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14105 Posts
January 08 2022 23:24 GMT
#1517
On January 09 2022 08:08 JimmiC wrote:
Speaking of the warriors, hes back!


Warriors' Thompson returning vs. Cavs after missing 2-plus seasons
https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/2271076

Fun fact Clay Thompson has made more money not playing in these last 2 seasons than he ever made playing before.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 08 2022 23:28 GMT
#1518
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 09 2022 05:46 GMT
#1519
On January 09 2022 08:24 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2022 08:08 JimmiC wrote:
Speaking of the warriors, hes back!


Warriors' Thompson returning vs. Cavs after missing 2-plus seasons
https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/2271076

Fun fact Clay Thompson has made more money not playing in these last 2 seasons than he ever made playing before.


*This is not a fun fact.

Not because I don't like Klay or anything, I just hate how NBA contract rules have worked over the last few cycles.
Freeeeeeedom
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
January 10 2022 22:36 GMT
#1520
On January 07 2022 07:35 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2022 23:18 JimmiC wrote:
On January 06 2022 13:16 cLutZ wrote:
On January 06 2022 11:21 JimmiC wrote:
On January 06 2022 11:05 cLutZ wrote:
On January 06 2022 10:30 JimmiC wrote:
Lance Stevnesen is poppin off for the Pacers, 20 points in the first quarter!

He is definitely a guy that is a coulda/ woulda guy.

He is most definetly not lacking in talent or ability.


With a better mentality could have been a Jimmy Butler, Derozan, PG, level guy.

I think so, or at the very worst a guy every year fighting for 6th man of the year with consistent great defense and some pop off offensive games.

Also on Derozan, how does that guy get better every single year? Most one dimensional high volume low efficiency scorers just stay that way, now he is like transforming the bulls into a contender. He got better every year with the raps but he was not this!


i thought the knock on derozan was because of his playoff performances and/or that his teams didnt win said playoff games.


The knock on Derozan is his defense and inability to score in the playoffs when defenders are focused and dedicated to locking him down in a way they don't do in the regular season. He's been working on his playmaking since his last year in Toronto and basically turned himself into a point-guard, which has been really cool to watch.

Part of why he looks so great this year is that the players around him are all really good as well. Lavine and Ball are both shooting 3s at 40% on 7.5attempts per game, he never had that in Toronto/San Antonio. It helps the floor spacing for him so he has room to work inside the 3pt line and gives him solid outlets when he gets in trouble. Vucevic is a solid center too, giving him an inside option. They also all play D. I'm pretty sure this is the best group of starters he's ever played with talent-wise, and it makes him better in return.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
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