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Twinkle Toes
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United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 03:36 GMT
#421
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Twinkle Toes
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United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 03:55 GMT
#422
EMBIID is a morom. soft af!
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Twinkle Toes
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United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 03:55 GMT
#423
GIANNIS MVP!!!
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 03:58 GMT
#424
LOL hardemn
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
February 17 2020 03:59 GMT
#425
My post-90s players are similar to clutz, 1. Jordan, 2. Lebron, 3. Duncan, 4. Shaq, 5. Kobe. 2 and 3 are very close and part of me wants to give it to Duncan.

Kobe's efficiency numbers are not that great compared to the top players. He just has way too many low FG% nights. It's pretty when it works but there's a lot of variance in it. Lebron's form might look artless, but he's actually had some seasons where his 3-pt FG% is at elite levels. If we're going to list the best 3-pt shooters of all time, I'm not going to penalize Reggie Miller for his fugly form. Lebron is like wing Shaq. Aesthetic value might not be there but it just works.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 04:00 GMT
#426
if giannis team's lose, fy embiid
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Twinkle Toes
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United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 04:11 GMT
#427
lol james athleticism in the trans defense
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Twinkle Toes
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United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 04:14 GMT
#428
FUCK YOU ENBID
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Twinkle Toes
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United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 04:22 GMT
#429
CElecrity row and cardi b? lol fy reggie stfu lol
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 17 2020 04:34 GMT
#430
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 17 2020 05:10 GMT
#431
The All-Stars only played marginally worse defense than they do in normal games.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 17 2020 05:21 GMT
#432
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Twinkle Toes
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United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-17 05:26:30
February 17 2020 05:24 GMT
#433
strength =/= athleticism, although it is one part of it. on all other accounts, Kobe owns lebron.

The dunker was a point on athleticism, which is one point in contention.

Nut now that you mention it, I have actually seen them go 1 on 1 vs. each other, and guess what, Kobe murders lebron on offense and kills him on defense. So I take it back, i really dont think lebron is that much stronger or is able to use his strength efficiently, as the stat turds would say.

Anyway, you're my man JC, so even if you think KG and Dirk are above Kobe, I wont argue any further with you. Lets agree to disagree for now.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 05:33 GMT
#434
On February 17 2020 14:21 JimmiC wrote:
True, lowry even took a charge.

Lowry was genius this game, but wtf did he make that push to AD in the closing. Damn this would have been 100% best ASG ever, instead of being like 98% or so.

All said, fuck enbid, Chuck was right, he is a soft crybaby who always wants the ref to save him, and he has bad hands with the ball. Fucker puts down the ball after rebound when he could just tip it right in. Wtf was that dumb play dipping the ball knowing full well it was down the wire and AD and Kawhi were around him. Today marks the day I become a true enbid hater. He wont win a championship as the team superstar, mark my words.

One last thing, and let me do a jj-inspired spiel here, "Ive said it from the start as I knew even then what was gonna happen", but the addition of 24 is such a small number. These guys can score 60-80 ezpz pre quarter. I understand that this is a Kobe tribute, but I hope they make it +50 next year.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17692 Posts
February 17 2020 06:04 GMT
#435
A healthy Kawhi shot 58% in the playoffs before he started limping around. So I'm not surprised a healthy Kawhi shot the lights out and won the All-Star MVP.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 17 2020 06:37 GMT
#436
On February 17 2020 14:21 JimmiC wrote:
True, lowry even took a charge.


If JimmyJ is to be believed, Lowry takes some sort of sick pleasure in putting his body through as much suffering as possible.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 17 2020 06:45 GMT
#437
Part 1:

Its frankly embarrassing that Team Lebron didn't win 200-100. Giannis did a troll draft.

Part 2:
On February 17 2020 11:57 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2020 09:55 cLutZ wrote:
Yeah, Robinson and Dirk don't belong anywhere near that conversation.

You could, if you went really madlad make a case for KG being close to that group because of the Twolves being basically the Browns of the NBA, wasting his prime, but I would not make that case.

For me, there is Jordan, then Kareem, then a large gap. If we are only talking post Jordan, its LeBron, Duncan, and Shaq then a small gap to Kobe, who is way ahead of whatever I'd put in tier 3

Im a dirk fan so Im sure Im biased. But he is underrated, he changed what people thought 7 footers could do there was no one like him playing outside the paint, and being great. Now their are tons.. And he carried that Mavs team to the title.


Dirk is a great, no doubt, but he is merely a beta version of what is to come, and that is because of his draft year 1998 being good for taking advantage of the 2004 rule changes.

Part 3:
On February 17 2020 10:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On February 17 2020 09:55 cLutZ wrote:
Yeah, Robinson and Dirk don't belong anywhere near that conversation.

You could, if you went really madlad make a case for KG being close to that group because of the Twolves being basically the Browns of the NBA, wasting his prime, but I would not make that case.

For me, there is Jordan, then Kareem, then a large gap. If we are only talking post Jordan, its LeBron, Duncan, and Shaq then a small gap to Kobe, who is way ahead of whatever I'd put in tier 3


Agreed for most of it, but I can't put Lebron over Duncan or Shaq but that's with a strong recency bias. If someone wanted to put Bill Russel at third I totally understand why.


I dont put Lebron over them, that is a tier that I really can't find much difference between. I think Duncan has accomplished the most hard things, Shaq was the most dominant for a short period, and Lebron has the title for "dominant longevity".

Part 4:
On February 17 2020 12:59 andrewlt wrote:
My post-90s players are similar to clutz, 1. Jordan, 2. Lebron, 3. Duncan, 4. Shaq, 5. Kobe. 2 and 3 are very close and part of me wants to give it to Duncan.

Kobe's efficiency numbers are not that great compared to the top players. He just has way too many low FG% nights. It's pretty when it works but there's a lot of variance in it. Lebron's form might look artless, but he's actually had some seasons where his 3-pt FG% is at elite levels. If we're going to list the best 3-pt shooters of all time, I'm not going to penalize Reggie Miller for his fugly form. Lebron is like wing Shaq. Aesthetic value might not be there but it just works.

Pretty much agree, but I vacillate 2-4 all the time. Part of the problem is that there were explicit anti-Shaq/Duncan rulechanges in the middle of their careers, which were also pro-Lebron rule changes. Duncan being able to adapt to those has me consistently rating him above Shaq, but I still wonder on 2007, and if that would have just been a thing on repeat if Duncan had made the finals in his prime. Smart rim defenders are LBJ's kryptonite. Even dumb ones like Dwight Howard and Tyson Chandler have eaten him up in the playoffs.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 06:55 GMT
#438
On February 17 2020 15:45 cLutZ wrote:
Part 1:

Its frankly embarrassing that Team Lebron didn't win 200-100. Giannis did a troll draft.


Seriously wtf was giannis thinking
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 06:58 GMT
#439
On February 17 2020 15:04 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
A healthy Kawhi shot 58% in the playoffs before he started limping around. So I'm not surprised a healthy Kawhi shot the lights out and won the All-Star MVP.

Your style of commenting is really weird and funny JJ, i dont know why
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
February 17 2020 06:58 GMT
#440
On February 17 2020 15:37 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2020 14:21 JimmiC wrote:
True, lowry even took a charge.


If JimmyJ is to be believed, Lowry takes some sort of sick pleasure in putting his body through as much suffering as possible.

thicc and maso-submissive.... hmmnnn
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