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InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
January 05 2020 18:44 GMT
#2481
What a goal by Curtis Jones tho. What was your guys' impression of Minamino?
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18440 Posts
January 05 2020 19:19 GMT
#2482
Minamo had some good spells, ran a lot but should have swapped positions more with origi imo.

Also Llana played like a fucking hero tonight. He totally made up for all the experience missing with his presence
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
January 05 2020 19:36 GMT
#2483
He needs time on that performance, albeit he did not get the ball much at all really, especially the first half. Be a big learning curve for him.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
January 05 2020 20:18 GMT
#2484
Millner out with injury as well. Guess they will have to by another midfielder now out of necessity.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1959 Posts
January 05 2020 20:46 GMT
#2485
Ox and Lallana were playing though. I guess it depends on how severe Keita and Milner injuries are considered.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18440 Posts
January 06 2020 20:43 GMT
#2486
Wow Leeds play spectacular football
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18440 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-07 15:18:38
January 07 2020 15:18 GMT
#2487
Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich paid £247m into the club last season but it still made an overall loss of £96.6m.


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51017102
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
January 08 2020 22:05 GMT
#2488
What happened to utd yesterday? I thought they were supposed to be able to play against top teams.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8687 Posts
January 09 2020 00:15 GMT
#2489
even if our record is good against top teams its foolish to think wed never lose
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-09 05:35:09
January 09 2020 05:32 GMT
#2490
On January 09 2020 07:05 KobraKay wrote:
What happened to utd yesterday? I thought they were supposed to be able to play against top teams.


McTominay got injured, Pogba picked up a new injury. That's 2 of our best midfielders. There's only Fred, Matic, Pereira, Mata and Lingard left.

Matic's and Mata's form have been bad and Pereira and Lingard won't even be able to make it into the starting 11 of the relegation teams.

Fred has improved quite a bit but it's essentially a decimated midfield so it's no surprise whatsoever that we lost to City.

If Woodward doesn't sign at least 1-2 midfielders this window I'll be absolutely fuming.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
January 09 2020 10:28 GMT
#2491
Uh wow didnt know there were so many injuries.

So thats a depleted squad that is not great to begin with.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
January 09 2020 18:17 GMT
#2492
Phil Jones as CB is just pure suicide, Yanited need a CB more than City and Chelsea put together at this point (due to their injuries)

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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
January 10 2020 01:05 GMT
#2493
On January 10 2020 03:17 Pandemona wrote:
Phil Jones as CB is just pure suicide, Yanited need a CB more than City and Chelsea put together at this point (due to their injuries)



CB is fine, there's a few players returning in a few weeks who would be able to slot in. But midfield, God dam even Klopp wouldn't be able to do anything with this midfield.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-10 02:50:58
January 10 2020 02:49 GMT
#2494
This Atletico Barça is a perfect example of why football is so exciting but also sometimes just complete bullshit. First half, Atletico surviving and doing nothing, they score the first minute of the 2nd half because Barça wasn't focused. Another 30mn of complete domination, 2-1 Barça, Piqué scores but VAR says Vidal offside for some reason when another Atletico defender had his hand far behind. From a 3-1 that'd have been the end, 2 stupid errors and it's 2-3 Atletico, completely undeserving.

Now both teams in the finals will be teams that shouldn't even have participated in this trophy. No matter how meaninglessness the title is, I can already see Marca and As celebrating the victory from Real as if they were European champions. I'm mad.

Also finally a good game from Barça and they lose, while normally they play like crap and win. Whatever.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
January 10 2020 06:18 GMT
#2495
Why would the defenders hand matter for an offside ruling? Am i missing a /s here?
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1959 Posts
January 10 2020 09:47 GMT
#2496
I've only been reading match reports, but I've got the picture that most of the matches played in Qatar and Saudi Arabia have been rather underwhelming performances. Obviously these are not the most inspiring games for the players anyway, but it still makes me worry about the quality of games in World Cup alongside the other issues that we already have with the Qatar as hosts.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-10 10:22:55
January 10 2020 10:17 GMT
#2497
On January 10 2020 15:18 mahrgell wrote:
Why would the defenders hand matter for an offside ruling? Am i missing a /s here?

No /s, just rage haha
But I recall a very recent game (could be last week, definitely in the EPL, either City or Liverpool game) where the forward was offside because of his hand. The rest of his body was onside. And last night Vidal was barely offside (like 5cm) unless you count the other defender's arm that was completely behind the offside line. Anyway, probably a good call, but the VAR is so frustrating regarding offsides...

The offside rule was implemented to avoid strikers camping and getting unfair advantage over defenders, but the 'spirit of the law' was that in case of doubt, there wasn't offside. Now with VAR there's no doubt, it's either offside or not. And so many times it's happening in one camera frame. I feel this is too strict but there's no way you can change VAR, so maybe the rule should be changed? Like, what if it only applied if it happens in the box? Or if the attacker has his whole body behind the offside line? I'm not sure this would change much, but the current situation feels so frustrating because every goal gets to be reviewed and fans just can't celebrate until it's validated FOR SURE.

Same with handballs... In last night's game, Piqué did a handball in the box but it didn't affect the situation at all (in my opinion at least; his hand barely changed the direction of the ball, and he did all he could to remove his hand). In the end the ref didn't give a penalty and I think it was fair because of the 'spirit of the law', but also unfair because all the recent similar handball situations resulted in penalties.

I like the idea of the VAR and I do feel that whenever there's a check, the decision taken is fair; but it's definitely ruining the emotions you get when a goal gets scored, and sometimes the calls are so anticlimactic I wouldn't want to pay tickets to live them. And I'm saying that even when I'm a neutral fan. Seeing players run off with joy to then see their goal disallowed 30s to 1mn after is a really shitty feeling. Like Sterling last year in CL vs Tottenham, last minute goal :D

On January 10 2020 18:47 Bacillus wrote:
I've only been reading match reports, but I've got the picture that most of the matches played in Qatar and Saudi Arabia have been rather underwhelming performances. Obviously these are not the most inspiring games for the players anyway, but it still makes me worry about the quality of games in World Cup alongside the other issues that we already have with the Qatar as hosts.


Not those 2 Supercopa games at least. They were pretty good, even for a less important trophy. Day-time games might be another story.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18440 Posts
January 10 2020 10:37 GMT
#2498
Yes losing a goal after a VAR check sucks for the goalscorer but its super lifting for the opposite team which would otherwise have felt treated unfairly. I always look at these decisions from both sides.

But I am for having some leeway in offside situations, handball is super difficult to judge imo.

But I read somewhere a few days ago that the referees dont want to change the offside rule. If its really only a few milimeters then its still offside. I dont know how anyone who loves football can say that.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18034 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-10 10:49:05
January 10 2020 10:46 GMT
#2499
Nvm. VAR disallowed 2 goals, one for handball and one for the offside being discussed here. Carry on.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-10 10:59:08
January 10 2020 10:53 GMT
#2500
On January 10 2020 19:37 sharkie wrote:
Yes losing a goal after a VAR check sucks for the goalscorer but its super lifting for the opposite team which would otherwise have felt treated unfairly. I always look at these decisions from both sides.

I might be wrong, but I would argue that getting a goal disallowed as the attacking team is more disheartening, whereas conceding a wrongful goal as the defending team is more revolting. One feeling brings your morale down a lot, the other one motivates you to get back at your opponent harder.

I feel that now you can't hate on referees, so instead of blaming a poor decision on one guy you blame the whole sport. Very sad.

Regardless, yesterday's game was a great one from the 2nd half so I guess just accept all that and move on?

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