EPTNBA 2016-17 Season - Page 34
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Jerubaal
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RowdierBob
Australia13414 Posts
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
On January 29 2017 07:48 Djagulingu wrote: Atlanta 2 years ago was different. East sucked so hard, if they hadn't selected 4 people from Hawks plus the coach, they wouldn't be able to fill the roster. Detroit 2006 was similar though. Pistons, despite having 4 players in the eastern team, had zero starters (I don't blame the general public, I wouldn't want to watch any players from by far the dirtiest team in the NBA either). The eastern team had Billups in it but no Jason Kidd. 2005-2006 Jason Kidd had close to triple double stats and Nets were one of the best teams in the East back then. Better than the current Celtics. Kidd was the top point guard in the NBA too. Did I mention that the game fucking sucked? Jason kid was 13.3/8.4/7.3 at 40% and 19.2PER in 2005-2006, Carter was an All-Star and the nets went 49-33 that's 59.7% win current celtics are at 29-18 that's 61.7%. More over there were only 2 teams in the East in 2006 (and there is only one now) Miami and Detroit. Being first of the scrub pack doesn't mean much. Billups was 18.5/8.6/3.1 at 42% but 43% at 3 points and PER 23.4 (best PER in the best regular season team) Detroit went 64-18 The top point guard in the NBA was Nash. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On January 29 2017 04:21 Djagulingu wrote: Conley maybe deserved? He's just not flashy enough? Yeah. That might be right. The season is full of flashy crossovers, dunks and assists from Klay Thompson. He's just so flashy that... He had a 60 pt game...in 29 minutes... but sure, he doesn't bring much excitement -.- The other thing you seem to forget is that Klay routinely gets defensive assignments like WB, Harden and Kyrie... He's an elite 2 way player. Lillard only plays one end of the court and that's part of the reason his team sucks. It's a tough call, but there were several deserving guys and one got the spot. You just can't see past your bias against GS. They're the best team in over a decade, and getting 4 all-star spots (especially as CP3 is hurt and Conley missed 12 games) is not a travesty by any means. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 30 2017 00:25 Jerubaal wrote: I remember when 3 pointers used to be fun. Now I think they are one of the more boring aspects of the game. Was this the 80s? | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17486 Posts
On January 29 2017 23:07 Scarecrow wrote: He had a 60 pt game...in 29 minutes... but sure, he doesn't bring much excitement -.- The other thing you seem to forget is that Klay routinely gets defensive assignments like WB, Harden and Kyrie... He's an elite 2 way player. Lillard only plays one end of the court and that's part of the reason his team sucks. It's a tough call, but there were several deserving guys and one got the spot. You just can't see past your bias against GS. They're the best team in over a decade, and getting 4 all-star spots (especially as CP3 is hurt and Conley missed 12 games) is not a travesty by any means. pretty much this. if Lillard is being snubbed its a mild error and not some giant fuck over of historic proportions. maybe the "lillard getting totally fucked over" narrative is a click-bait tactic sucking in hardcore trailblazer fans. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 30 2017 03:47 Jerubaal wrote: You got me. I'm actually 54 year old man. Only explanation for you thinking the 3 was exciting. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17486 Posts
On January 30 2017 03:47 Jerubaal wrote: You got me. I'm actually 54 year old man. the first ever licensed NBA video game had no 3 point line. u were prolly awesome. EDIT: ATl , NY going into triple OT.  | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17486 Posts
the Raptors sent Sullinger down to the D-league. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On January 30 2017 08:22 JimmiC wrote: Remember when the NBA shorten the 3 point line? Yeah, it made some players like Michael Jordan into 3-pt shooters. I may be wrong, but I think scoring didn't really increase. The shorter line decreased spacing because 3-pt shooters were closer to the basket. I was hoping for more overtimes in the Knicks vs Hawks game. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On January 29 2017 23:07 Scarecrow wrote: He had a 60 pt game...in 29 minutes... but sure, he doesn't bring much excitement -.- The other thing you seem to forget is that Klay routinely gets defensive assignments like WB, Harden and Kyrie... He's an elite 2 way player. Lillard only plays one end of the court and that's part of the reason his team sucks. It's a tough call, but there were several deserving guys and one got the spot. You just can't see past your bias against GS. They're the best team in over a decade, and getting 4 all-star spots (especially as CP3 is hurt and Conley missed 12 games) is not a travesty by any means. Klay is definitely not an elite 2 way player. His defense has notably slipped, and while he's an elite shooter (especially spotting up) he isn't an elite offensive player. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On January 30 2017 12:35 Ace wrote: Klay is definitely not an elite 2 way player. His defense has notably slipped, and while he's an elite shooter (especially spotting up) he isn't an elite offensive player. Well that's just semantics, his shooting alone is good enough to compensate for the low assists. I just think you're being pretty picky when you call someone who can put up 60 pts in 29 min and 37 in a quarter, 'not an elite offensive player'. Anyway for both it really depends how you define elite, and offensive/defensive. As for his defense how has it slipped? He still routinely guards superstars for the team with the #1 defense. The rotation's also got him playing with 2nd unit guys a lot more than last season too so that could be part of any change in his defensive numbers. Unless you're just talking about the eye test, in which case we just disagree. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On January 30 2017 12:17 cLutZ wrote: The 3 PT line was an interesting gimmick when good players like Magic and Hakeem were bad at it. If athletic players start taking 3 pointers, it is boring. In a properly balanced situation, Lebron, Harden, Westbrook, etc would never find it worthwhile to take 3s because the EV should be lower than a shot from whatever point in or near the paint they can get to. That's never going to happen. The Tom Thibodeau defenses that pack the paint wrecks every team that doesn't have good 3-point shooters. And every athletic player growing up now knows that even being adequate on shooting the 3 opens up their drive game so much more. Lebron and Westbrook are one thing. Harden wouldn't be as effective if defenders can sag off him. Even Lebron has seasons where he's shooting the 3 well. | ||
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