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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4025 Posts
December 16 2016 04:09 GMT
#2161
I think even a 1 minute pause would be disasterous. Before you know it, the ref has a Jack Link video moment made possible by Red Bull or some crap. Not to mention it gives lesser fit teams a chance to catch their breath, and breaks the pace. It needs be done by separate (panel of) refs.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18772 Posts
December 16 2016 08:34 GMT
#2162
On December 16 2016 13:09 aseq wrote:
I think even a 1 minute pause would be disasterous. Before you know it, the ref has a Jack Link video moment made possible by Red Bull or some crap. Not to mention it gives lesser fit teams a chance to catch their breath, and breaks the pace. It needs be done by separate (panel of) refs.


I'd rather have these kind of pauses for lesser fit teams than the ones they currently do (fouling players of the opposing team).

Also this only happens for controversial decisions. Have you ever seen a football match? Controversial decisions usually have shouting matches with ref and players for MINUTES. How is a 1 (only) minute pause be disastrous then?

Seriously, sometimes I wonder how short a memory people have.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-16 16:20:24
December 16 2016 16:19 GMT
#2163
On December 16 2016 17:34 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2016 13:09 aseq wrote:
I think even a 1 minute pause would be disasterous. Before you know it, the ref has a Jack Link video moment made possible by Red Bull or some crap. Not to mention it gives lesser fit teams a chance to catch their breath, and breaks the pace. It needs be done by separate (panel of) refs.


I'd rather have these kind of pauses for lesser fit teams than the ones they currently do (fouling players of the opposing team).

Also this only happens for controversial decisions. Have you ever seen a football match? Controversial decisions usually have shouting matches with ref and players for MINUTES. How is a 1 (only) minute pause be disastrous then?

Seriously, sometimes I wonder how short a memory people have.


Yeah I agree its not about doing it for every decision, just ones that are blatantly wrong and have a massive impact. Its somewhat subjective but as fans and neutrals the line can be pretty clear most of the time. Its common sense stuff.

And he has a good point the delays in the game are still there, they just arent structured and people dont actually realise how much time gets lost.

iirc they had mid half breaks in the last worldcup, wasnt such a disastrous pause now was it ? Did you get your beef jerky an bud commercial ?
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4025 Posts
December 16 2016 17:23 GMT
#2164
Yeah, I never watched a football match before. And my memory is nonexistant. Thanks for those great arguments. Did you watch a pro field hockey match before? Did you notice how long the vid ref takes there? The whole reason arguing about referee's decision takes too long is that arguing is allowed at all. Instant yellows for any talkback is the solution (look at rugby).

I dont even mind an argument about this but your arrogant tone prevents it. Go insult someone else, douche.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-16 19:39:26
December 16 2016 19:18 GMT
#2165
On December 17 2016 02:23 aseq wrote:
Yeah, I never watched a football match before. And my memory is nonexistant. Thanks for those great arguments. Did you watch a pro field hockey match before? Did you notice how long the vid ref takes there? The whole reason arguing about referee's decision takes too long is that arguing is allowed at all. Instant yellows for any talkback is the solution (look at rugby).

I dont even mind an argument about this but your arrogant tone prevents it. Go insult someone else, douche.


I actually do watch quite a bit of field hockey + Show Spoiler +
(mostly the olympics, worldcup and champions trophy) infact Ive grown up playing it, and im pretty sure no one here has played as much field hockey as I have, its my national sport (even though we suck at it now).


As for the bringing up the fact that arguing would be allowed, your offering a solution to a problem we arent discussing. The point was that even with the arguing you dont really notice the stall time, atleast I dont, so why would the same pauses being used to review all of a sudden break the meta to speak ?

Arguing itself being an issue is a separate matter and at the end of the day if the video ref thing maintains the integrity of decisions its a very small price to pay considering whats at stake.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
December 16 2016 19:35 GMT
#2166
Took us only 3 minutes to conceed the first goal
Not that surprising though since the team is as stable as a 14 year old teenager in puberty
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
December 16 2016 19:53 GMT
#2167
On December 17 2016 04:35 BlackCompany wrote:
Took us only 3 minutes to conceed the first goal
Not that surprising though since the team is as stable as a 14 year old teenager in puberty

Should probably make that 90 year old with dementia given Weidenfeller seems to have forgotten what he is supposed to be doing out there. Great entertainment as always from the BVB tho.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
December 16 2016 20:00 GMT
#2168
On December 17 2016 04:53 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2016 04:35 BlackCompany wrote:
Took us only 3 minutes to conceed the first goal
Not that surprising though since the team is as stable as a 14 year old teenager in puberty

Should probably make that 90 year old with dementia given Weidenfeller seems to have forgotten what he is supposed to be doing out there. Great entertainment as always from the BVB tho.

Well if you do not care too much about either team then this is highly entertaining, i agree. For me it is just frustrating. The fact that BVB is basically an above average team right now and nothing more. Gonna be interesting to see if they manage to fuck up the season enough to not even place CL for next year
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-16 20:22:03
December 16 2016 20:14 GMT
#2169
I can only imagine Reus was done with this bullshit so he wanted to go home
Anything else would make him the dumbest person on the field - and that is saying a lot

Also please no last minute equalizer. I've heard enough of the bullshit how good the team is and how much morale they have because they always come back. That shit has to stop. They are bad enough to not even be in a winning position and lucky enough to somehow equalize late. A couple good games do not make a good team. This team is not even close to being a top team
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
December 16 2016 20:21 GMT
#2170
On December 17 2016 05:00 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2016 04:53 sneirac wrote:
On December 17 2016 04:35 BlackCompany wrote:
Took us only 3 minutes to conceed the first goal
Not that surprising though since the team is as stable as a 14 year old teenager in puberty

Should probably make that 90 year old with dementia given Weidenfeller seems to have forgotten what he is supposed to be doing out there. Great entertainment as always from the BVB tho.

Well if you do not care too much about either team then this is highly entertaining, i agree. For me it is just frustrating. The fact that BVB is basically an above average team right now and nothing more. Gonna be interesting to see if they manage to fuck up the season enough to not even place CL for next year

I'm not taking this Bundesliga season seriously yet. Bayern is not miles ahead and not one but all of the CL teams from last year are struggling. I expect 3 of Leipzig, Hoffenheim, Herta and Frankfurt to drop quite a bit so not too worried about CL chances of the BVB.
Oh and that Reus card was bs, ref seems a bit shaky overall.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 16 2016 20:27 GMT
#2171
Ouch Dortmund in trouble! Long way to go but could champions league qualification be in doubt?!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6344 Posts
December 17 2016 15:54 GMT
#2172
11th win in a row boys, grinding out them 1:0's.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11449 Posts
December 17 2016 15:57 GMT
#2173
Eleven heh.

Wonder what's the percentage of supporters for each team is like in liquid.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4203 Posts
December 17 2016 16:23 GMT
#2174
Chelsea pls stop winning I want a close race lol
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 17 2016 17:35 GMT
#2175
That was another grind, i would be worried if we weren't creating changes but the last 2 games (sunderland/palace) we created alot just did not take them so im very happy. Onto the next vs Bournemouth, without Costa and Kante though.

Cesc Fabregas though has been fantastic though, guy is world class!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 17 2016 18:44 GMT
#2176
Ibra in form again. Rooney has been playing well too.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
December 17 2016 19:01 GMT
#2177
On December 18 2016 00:57 DucK- wrote:
Eleven heh.

Wonder what's the percentage of supporters for each team is like in liquid.

Chelsea has quite a few. Some Ajax fans as well. Couple of Dortmund fans that I know of. I think Barca has the most fans though.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-17 20:00:14
December 17 2016 19:59 GMT
#2178
On December 18 2016 02:35 Pandemona wrote:
That was another grind, i would be worried if we weren't creating changes but the last 2 games (sunderland/palace) we created alot just did not take them so im very happy. Onto the next vs Bournemouth, without Costa and Kante though.

Cesc Fabregas though has been fantastic though, guy is world class!

What's the popular opinion about Mourinho in England atm? He seems like the most overrated manager ever whose biggest achievement was to win the CL with Porto thanks to incredible draws.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
December 17 2016 20:03 GMT
#2179
On December 18 2016 04:59 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2016 02:35 Pandemona wrote:
That was another grind, i would be worried if we weren't creating changes but the last 2 games (sunderland/palace) we created alot just did not take them so im very happy. Onto the next vs Bournemouth, without Costa and Kante though.

Cesc Fabregas though has been fantastic though, guy is world class!

What's the popular opinion about Mourinho in England atm? He seems like the most overrated manager ever whose biggest achievement was to win the CL with Porto thanks to incredible draws.


The popular opinion is that this is discussed every second page in this thread and a fucking boring topic, because whenever it is not discussed for a page, someone has to say exactly what you just said and restart the cycle.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 17 2016 20:07 GMT
#2180
Mourinho still fantastic manager, his yanited team still playing good footy and they entertaining due to they don't win all the time :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
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