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On November 08 2016 13:02 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 12:20 Probe1 wrote:
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I can nearly prove FSU is deliberately shit on by ACC officiating. I can point to tape showing uncalled targeting that resulted in repeated injuries on our players.
But I aint never seen nothing as dirty as what we all witnessed. I turned off the game. That was absurd. This game is a fucking sham. for your first point I believe there was actually some study someone did that showed the founding members of the ACC got preferential treatment and the Big East + GT + FSU teams got worse calls against them. I'll have to see if I can find it but basically the Carolina schools are as favored as everyone thinks here's a reference to it from an FSU site https://floridastate.rivals.com/news/study-shines-light-on-officiating-bias-in-acc-other-conferencesShow nested quote +"There is evidence of ACC officiating favoritism towards teams that have been in the league longest (founded in 1953) and more frequently flagging teams that are newer to the conference: Georgia Tech (1978), Florida State (1991), University of Miami (2004), Virginia Tech (2004), and Boston College (2005). Current ACC members Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and Louisville were all added after the sample period ended in 2012." Here's the paper http://www.sloansportsconference.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/SSAC15-RP-Poster-Paper-Referee-Analytics.pdfalso Wilson and Stafford are my 2 fantasy QBs (1 QB League) and I pretty much always end up playing the worse of the two 
We get our fair share of calls and then some it is true. We aren't a new team anymore and there are more factors at play. Many of the oldest teams in the ACC have very weak programs that don't play with aspirations and big money on the line. Many of them aren't as physical. They are less likely to incur penalties because they are less likely to be competitive teams.
But I'm not contending that FSU gets calls we shouldn't. It does happen. It happened this weekend when we got called for a bogus targeting when NCState's QB slid into the defenders path and the defender made his best effort to jump over him. We had a game winning run called back against Clemson for a penalty that didn't happen, then assessed at the line of scrimmage instead of the point the penalty was alleged to occur, then a completely unrelated staff personnel given an unsportsmanlike penalty because the refs felt like it despite him not being anywhere near a ref or yelling at all.
We get shit on. It happens. We win or we lose either way. We'll survive. We don't get called the Criminoles because we play clean even if sometimes we're penalized just because fuck FSU.
I'm contending that the repeated, deliberate hits on our quarterback haven't been called as targeting and the only answer at this point of repeated no calls is that it is intentional. It's absolute bullshit. Seeing Francois limping off the field after taking a helmet to the chest breaks my fucking heart. He's never going to be a great QB but he gives it his best shot and his reward for that is injuries.
This has been going on all season but the Miami game was the magnum opus. The whole game FSU gets illegal hits laid on them and it doesn't stop until someone has the balls to hit Kaaya so hard his tooth was ejected along with the player. Then Miami stopped.
That's where we're at. A team with no faith in the conference and a conference that's going out of their way to make it worse.
AND STILL I'VE NEVER SEEN BULLSHIT LIKE I JUST SAW TONIGHT.
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The end of this game is which coach wants to lose more
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so much for defensive struggle
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Yeesh that was the lowest rated MNF game since 2007.
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I turned it off after that (I'll be neutral) extremely bad mistake by the refs. I'm not surprised at all.
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Still ranked. Not that bad a drop but we need to rebound. We can only hope Wisconsin loses one more game and we win out. But we probably shot ourselves in the foot with that blowout loss to OSU
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Anyone else think the NFL's decline is somewhat on the media's penchant for turning every thing into a soapbox?
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Patriots quarterback Tom Brady later spoke with reporters and said he wanted to talk only about football this week.
"I talked to my wife. She said I can't talk about politics anymore," Brady said.
LOL
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Brady won't talk about it because of his wife. The rest of the team won't talk about because they don't want to be shipped to the Browns.
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On November 10 2016 10:21 Jerubaal wrote:
Anyone else think the NFL's decline is somewhat on the media's penchant for turning every thing into a soapbox?
I think that the NFL's schedule of Sunday-Monday-Thursday games gives it great synergy with daytime talk (like Skip Bayless), sports radio, and PTI-style shows. I think that the way the media handles some issues in football (concussions, Kaepernick, Redskins, for example) is really boring in those formats because its almost 100% agreement on them by the media.
Thus, people tune out those shows (they can get one-sided political discussions on FOX or NBC), which then gets people less hyped about NFL games, so they dont tune in without the story.
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Fresno State will be hiring Jeff Tedford to be their new head coach for next season. Jeff Tedford was previously the coach at Cal and then later the OC in Tampa under Lovie Smith but had to step down after needing a heart procedure. He currently is an offensive consultant for the University of Washington after a 1 year stint as a head coach in the CFL.
http://www.fresnobee.com/sports/college/mountain-west/fresno-state/bulldogs-football/article113804133.html
remaining college head coach vacancies are:
Purdue
LSU
Florida International
Baylor
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On November 10 2016 12:50 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2016 10:21 Jerubaal wrote:
Anyone else think the NFL's decline is somewhat on the media's penchant for turning every thing into a soapbox? I think that the NFL's schedule of Sunday-Monday-Thursday games gives it great synergy with daytime talk (like Skip Bayless), sports radio, and PTI-style shows. I think that the way the media handles some issues in football (concussions, Kaepernick, Redskins, for example) is really boring in those formats because its almost 100% agreement on them by the media. Thus, people tune out those shows (they can get one-sided political discussions on FOX or NBC), which then gets people less hyped about NFL games, so they dont tune in without the story.
So more is less as far as the excitement factor goes?
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On November 10 2016 13:05 Jerubaal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2016 12:50 cLutZ wrote:On November 10 2016 10:21 Jerubaal wrote:
Anyone else think the NFL's decline is somewhat on the media's penchant for turning every thing into a soapbox? I think that the NFL's schedule of Sunday-Monday-Thursday games gives it great synergy with daytime talk (like Skip Bayless), sports radio, and PTI-style shows. I think that the way the media handles some issues in football (concussions, Kaepernick, Redskins, for example) is really boring in those formats because its almost 100% agreement on them by the media. Thus, people tune out those shows (they can get one-sided political discussions on FOX or NBC), which then gets people less hyped about NFL games, so they dont tune in without the story. So more is less as far as the excitement factor goes?
Not necessarily. It's just that this particular subset of NFL "discussions" are boring because on PTI Tony and Mike both say "Yes concussions need to be looked at" and "yes Kaepernick has the right to protest" and "yes I am now calling them 'the Washington DC football team'", so there is no point to that segment. But then they do that segment 4x a week, and there is never a guy who is like "Kaepernick is a stupid clown, hail to the redskins!"
So, in essence its 60 of your 180 minutes of programming dedicated to a question that is as one sided to your hosts as, "Who's the better quarterback: Tom Brady or Matt Moore?"
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We'll see if ratings rebound somewhat. Some people might just be watching election coverage instead of football.
I noticed announcers shilling for the Chargers proposition on multiple games, some not even involving the Chargers. That did not make me happy. Serious studies not affiliated with the NFL show that these things don't benefit the local economy.
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NFL stadiums (and all sports stadiums really) are such a scam its laughable. Franchises making that much money shouldn't be taking money out of schools, hospitals in infrastructure to build a new stadium every 15 years. But whatever i guess.
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It's going to be a good game tonight right? I mean I should definitely wake up at 3am to watch...
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hopefully there'll be one good play at the end of the game again to deny the browns from having any happiness
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