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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 16 2016 13:55 GMT
#2661
On December 16 2016 14:56 GTR wrote:
who actually gives a shit between a 10th ranked c-usa team vs a 10th ranked aac team?

ME
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14110 Posts
December 16 2016 14:07 GMT
#2662
Duke lacrosse pt 2 might be brewing in Minnesota. I've been hearing some bad rumors already but it looks like the team will force the issue before the bowl game and recruitment gets effected.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 16 2016 14:10 GMT
#2663
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-16 15:43:05
December 16 2016 15:37 GMT
#2664
On December 16 2016 23:07 Sermokala wrote:
Duke lacrosse pt 2 might be brewing in Minnesota. I've been hearing some bad rumors already but it looks like the team will force the issue before the bowl game and recruitment gets effected.

that would require an idiot prosecutor and an accuser whose already been convicted of attempted murder. incidentally, the accuser is now a convicted murderer and in jail. i don't think this turns into Duke Lacrosse because the members of the football team are not criminally charged.

you had to know this title 9 silliness would come up against a football team sooner or later.
http://www.startribune.com/gophers-football-players-plan-to-threaten-boycott-of-bowl-game/406928136/

i was investigated for murder in my 3rd year of university. i didn't get suspended by the school. i didn't get fired from my co-op job. nothing. i was never charged and that was that. that is how due process should work.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9045 Posts
December 17 2016 00:06 GMT
#2665
Steve Sarkisian has been hired as Alabama Football's next offensive coordinator.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14110 Posts
December 17 2016 00:41 GMT
#2666
On December 17 2016 00:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2016 23:07 Sermokala wrote:
Duke lacrosse pt 2 might be brewing in Minnesota. I've been hearing some bad rumors already but it looks like the team will force the issue before the bowl game and recruitment gets effected.

that would require an idiot prosecutor and an accuser whose already been convicted of attempted murder. incidentally, the accuser is now a convicted murderer and in jail. i don't think this turns into Duke Lacrosse because the members of the football team are not criminally charged.

you had to know this title 9 silliness would come up against a football team sooner or later.
http://www.startribune.com/gophers-football-players-plan-to-threaten-boycott-of-bowl-game/406928136/

i was investigated for murder in my 3rd year of university. i didn't get suspended by the school. i didn't get fired from my co-op job. nothing. i was never charged and that was that. that is how due process should work.

I don't entirely belive it'll be duke lacrosse pt 2 in other then the damage to the program involved and the way tge school acted.. Black people should be super anxious over a program that doesn't respect due process and duke lacrosse is enough of an example to warn white boys off as well. Players names being named as a person to be punished from a sexual assault case is some serious shit when it's hard to recruit for the gophers to begin with.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 17 2016 14:18 GMT
#2667
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-17 14:44:51
December 17 2016 14:36 GMT
#2668
Nah, people just need to realize that a robust right to privacy is going to get in the way of knowing the specific details surrounding particular disciplinary procedures, college football spotlight notwithstanding. Based on what has been said and done thus far, I think there's some pretty strong evidence against these dudes, but it'd be best to wait before chalking this up as one of those "impossible to solve" problems in higher ed sexual assault policy.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 17 2016 14:44 GMT
#2669
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
December 17 2016 14:46 GMT
#2670
Frankly, university administrations and pro team front offices are some of the least sympathetic entities in public life, so I don't feel so bad for them
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 17 2016 14:52 GMT
#2671
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
December 17 2016 15:00 GMT
#2672
Personally, whenever I need to confirm evilness in the sports world, I just talk to Penn State fans.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
December 17 2016 15:29 GMT
#2673
On December 18 2016 00:00 farvacola wrote:
Personally, whenever I need to confirm evilness in the sports world, I just talk to Penn State fans.


The thing that disturbed me most in the aftermath of Penn State was how people thought that some unrelated person's crime gave them some sort of moral high ground and the freedom to act/talk like barbarians.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-17 17:02:06
December 17 2016 16:27 GMT
#2674
i just walk over to what is left of Maple Leaf Gardens. That said, you need evidence. In the face of insufficient evidence the guilty go free. that is the foundation of a free society.

Really smart, careful, calculated criminals get away with breaking the law. Its always been that way and it will always be that way. The only way to stop it is to put everyone in jail.

we have people who think institutions like the police and universities will make the world perfect. They never have and they never will.

On December 17 2016 23:36 farvacola wrote:
I think there's some pretty strong evidence against these dudes,

the police performed an investigation and decided to lay no charges.

they probably committed something like "honour code violations". As of right now they are not criminals nor have they been charged with a crime and hte rape investigation is over.

and the boycott is over.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18297065/minnesota-golden-gophers-football-team-ends-boycott-prepare-holiday-bowl

i suspect the team was informed of the honour code violations that led to the suspensions of these players; i suspect the team now fully realizes the president is not going to lift the suspensions. GAME ON!
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
December 17 2016 17:15 GMT
#2675
On December 18 2016 01:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i just walk over to what is left of Maple Leaf Gardens. That said, you need evidence. In the face of insufficient evidence the guilty go free. that is the foundation of a free society.

Really smart, careful, calculated criminals get away with breaking the law. Its always been that way and it will always be that way. The only way to stop it is to put everyone in jail.

we have people who think institutions like the police and universities will make the world perfect. They never have and they never will.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2016 23:36 farvacola wrote:
I think there's some pretty strong evidence against these dudes,

the police performed an investigation and decided to lay no charges.

they probably committed something like "honour code violations". As of right now they are not criminals nor have they been charged with a crime and hte rape investigation is over.

and the boycott is over.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18297065/minnesota-golden-gophers-football-team-ends-boycott-prepare-holiday-bowl

i suspect the team was informed of the honour code violations that led to the suspensions of these players; i suspect the team now fully realizes the president is not going to lift the suspensions. GAME ON!

The thing is that with sexual assaults you don't need to be "smart, careful, calculated" you only need the victim to feel shamed long enough for the physical evidence to heal. Not knowing the details makes it impossible for any of us to know and the whole thing leaves you sick inside either way. A woman wants to destroy some peoples lives because she want's money, attention, is sick etc... Or these young men did something that they should be in jail for that ruined a woman's life. I've seen both sides with family members, one taken advantage of and another falsely accused by a woman now getting treatment for her mental health issues. The compromise of a "diverse review panel" is maybe the only real option?

That ESPN article contains this:
"The suspensions resulted from the 10 players' alleged roles in a reported gang rape that occurred on Sept. 2, only hours after the Gophers' season opener against Oregon State in Minneapolis. A female Minnesota student told police that several men sexually assaulted her at a football player's apartment. Five of the suspended Minnesota players told police that they had consensual sex with the woman."
Which makes me sick inside because 5 men with 1 woman is an easy way to have things escalate...
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
December 17 2016 22:57 GMT
#2676
This is why the NFL should just wash its hands of this sort of thing.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 17 2016 23:06 GMT
#2677
Donnel Pumphrey becomes All-Time FBS Rushing leader. 5'9 guys getting it done
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
December 18 2016 00:01 GMT
#2678
also turns out the Giants were using wakey talkeys illegally. Thats gotta hurt the integrity of the game, time to suspend eli strip the picks and throw a gigantic fine
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 18 2016 00:28 GMT
#2679
Suspend McAdoo!
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51589 Posts
December 18 2016 00:37 GMT
#2680
mcadoo what a doodoo!
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