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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 10 2017 22:02 GMT
#1101
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-10 23:24:47
February 10 2017 23:23 GMT
#1102
the UFC did a much better job creating the Strawweight title. The competitive TUF format gave the belt instant credibility and created a division with a pool of talent.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
February 11 2017 03:36 GMT
#1103
On February 11 2017 06:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
how to win 2 fights in the UFC against fighters with zero UFC wins and then get a title shot:
1. Be Germaine De Randamie

How to win the Interim featherweight belt while beating a non-featherweight
1. Be Max Halloway


I guess that'd be a strike against Holloway if he fought someone at bantamweight, but he fought a former lightweight champion. Yuge difference.

On February 11 2017 07:02 JimmiC wrote:
The big issue is the title was created for cyborg and then she failed the test. Hell the whole division was created for her. And people were begging for the creation saying Dana was being a jerk for making her get down to 135. But there just isn't enough women for the division and with no Cyborg it is ridiculous.


Are you kidding me? The featherweight division for women has so much talent in it right n-

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"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-11 16:10:59
February 11 2017 15:14 GMT
#1104
matt serra is a former welterweight champion. if thompson beat him it would not prove he deserves a shot at woodley.

Halloway fought a guy having weight cut issues who has never fought at 145 and is 1-3 in his last 4 fights. The people saw the BS for what it was. the PPV had a very low buy-rate and the house was heavily papered with the average ticket price being $100. very low for a "PPV". i got to see the event for free and a couple of weeks later so did everyone else on FOX. The fastest the UFC has ever given away a PPV for free. the free giveaways of this fight show you how important the people felt this "title fight" was. it was a joke of a PPV and should've been a Fox Fight Night Card.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 11 2017 19:31 GMT
#1105
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-11 21:35:36
February 11 2017 21:13 GMT
#1106
the UFC won't have employees wandering around the streets of Brooklyn handing out tickets for tonight's event like they did in Toronto because 208 is sold out.


On February 12 2017 04:31 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2017 00:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
matt serra is a former welterweight champion. if thompson beat him it would not prove he deserves a shot at woodley.

Halloway fought a guy having weight cut issues who has never fought at 145 and is 1-3 in his last 4 fights. The people saw the BS for what it was. the PPV had a very low buy-rate and the house was heavily papered with the average ticket price being $100. very low for a "PPV". i got to see the event for free and a couple of weeks later so did everyone else on FOX. The fastest the UFC has ever given away a PPV for free. the free giveaways of this fight show you how important the people felt this "title fight" was. it was a joke of a PPV and should've been a Fox Fight Night Card.


Some times I forget how you will throw logic and reason out to argue. That was the toughest competition available and that's all he has been fighting. He has won 10 in a row since losing a close decision to Conner Mcgreggor. I doubt there is a more worthy challenger in the entire UFC. Even for you this a stupid argument.

logical fallacy: argument ad hominem.

the current champion is active so there is no need for a made up interim title. i can list at least 20 middle of the road MMA journalists who think the interim title handed out at UFC 206 is a joke; i pretty much subscribe the collective perspectives of all 4 guys on the MMA Beat weekly show hosted by Helwani.
Halloway deserves a title shot; he does not deserve a belt because he has not defeated the current reigning champion.
if you want to call us all stupid.. have fun.

it was a "title fight" where the belt could only be won by 1 of the 2 guys. talk about dumb. why didn't they stick a ladder in the middle of the ring and hang the belt 15 feet in the air too?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 11 2017 21:57 GMT
#1107
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-11 22:25:54
February 11 2017 22:18 GMT
#1108
logical fallacy: straw-manning.
On February 12 2017 06:57 JimmiC wrote:
You have changed the target again JimmyJ:
I was responding to this statement which insinuates that Holloway does not deserve the title shot.

here is my original joke comment. you decided to claim it was saying something else.
On February 11 2017 06:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
How to win the Interim featherweight belt while beating a non-featherweight
1. Be Max Halloway


then i added this.
On February 12 2017 00:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Halloway fought a guy having weight cut issues who has never fought at 145 and is 1-3 in his last 4 fights.

none of this indicates Halloway does not deserve a title shot at the current reigning and active featherweight champion. it does say that the interim title he holds now is as fake as the WWE championship
you just dream up stuff and then claim i said it. like that Nick Diaz thing.. where you went off on some giant rant about Nate Diaz.

if you are going to make these tenuous logical leaps you should request clarification first.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-11 22:28:45
February 11 2017 22:26 GMT
#1109
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18030 Posts
February 11 2017 22:31 GMT
#1110
just request clarification rather than going in with 10 battlecruisers and 10 seige tanks only to find out the opposition CC is on the other side of the map
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-11 22:51:19
February 11 2017 22:49 GMT
#1111
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
February 12 2017 04:39 GMT
#1112
Such a casual kimura by Souza. Easily the next guy who should fight for the belt, unless Mousasi has some amazing performance vs Weidman, and then maybe they'd rather do a title eliminator fight.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 12 2017 04:52 GMT
#1113
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
February 12 2017 05:18 GMT
#1114
poor brunson
30-27? lol
© Current year.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
February 12 2017 05:26 GMT
#1115
Yeah this scoring system, idk man.

Also, always disappointing to see previous steroid users win fights.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 06:08:21
February 12 2017 06:07 GMT
#1116
Holly sucks ass. Maybe it's time to switch coaches because apparently her way of fighting is only good enough to break Ronda.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18030 Posts
February 12 2017 06:11 GMT
#1117
welp, the women's featherweight champion needs surgery to repair torn ligaments. time to create an interim featherweight women's title belt and set up a match during the next PPV that doesn't have a title fight.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
February 12 2017 06:42 GMT
#1118
On February 12 2017 06:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the UFC won't have employees wandering around the streets of Brooklyn handing out tickets for tonight's event like they did in Toronto because 208 is sold out.
https://twitter.com/bokamotoESPN/status/830509401018658818

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2017 04:31 JimmiC wrote:
On February 12 2017 00:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
matt serra is a former welterweight champion. if thompson beat him it would not prove he deserves a shot at woodley.

Halloway fought a guy having weight cut issues who has never fought at 145 and is 1-3 in his last 4 fights. The people saw the BS for what it was. the PPV had a very low buy-rate and the house was heavily papered with the average ticket price being $100. very low for a "PPV". i got to see the event for free and a couple of weeks later so did everyone else on FOX. The fastest the UFC has ever given away a PPV for free. the free giveaways of this fight show you how important the people felt this "title fight" was. it was a joke of a PPV and should've been a Fox Fight Night Card.


Some times I forget how you will throw logic and reason out to argue. That was the toughest competition available and that's all he has been fighting. He has won 10 in a row since losing a close decision to Conner Mcgreggor. I doubt there is a more worthy challenger in the entire UFC. Even for you this a stupid argument.

logical fallacy: argument ad hominem.


That's not an "ad hominem". An ad hominem is when someone attacks your credibility rather than addressing your actual argument. Sure, the Holloway-Pettis fight didn't do good numbers, but that doesn't make Holloway any less of a worthy contender, especially when one lists his last 10 fights, where he beat many top contenders in the division, which JimmiC listed. Oddly enough, you fail to address the actual facts because you didn't like his tone and thought it was a personal attack because he said your argument was "stupid".

"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 07:02:52
February 12 2017 06:47 GMT
#1119
On February 12 2017 15:42 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2017 06:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the UFC won't have employees wandering around the streets of Brooklyn handing out tickets for tonight's event like they did in Toronto because 208 is sold out.
https://twitter.com/bokamotoESPN/status/830509401018658818

On February 12 2017 04:31 JimmiC wrote:
On February 12 2017 00:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
matt serra is a former welterweight champion. if thompson beat him it would not prove he deserves a shot at woodley.

Halloway fought a guy having weight cut issues who has never fought at 145 and is 1-3 in his last 4 fights. The people saw the BS for what it was. the PPV had a very low buy-rate and the house was heavily papered with the average ticket price being $100. very low for a "PPV". i got to see the event for free and a couple of weeks later so did everyone else on FOX. The fastest the UFC has ever given away a PPV for free. the free giveaways of this fight show you how important the people felt this "title fight" was. it was a joke of a PPV and should've been a Fox Fight Night Card.


Some times I forget how you will throw logic and reason out to argue. That was the toughest competition available and that's all he has been fighting. He has won 10 in a row since losing a close decision to Conner Mcgreggor. I doubt there is a more worthy challenger in the entire UFC. Even for you this a stupid argument.

logical fallacy: argument ad hominem.


That's not an "ad hominem". An ad hominem is when someone attacks your credibility rather than addressing your actual argument. Sure, the Holloway-Pettis fight didn't do good numbers, but that doesn't make Holloway any less of a worthy contender, especially when one lists his last 10 fights, where he beat many top contenders in the division, which JimmiC listed. Oddly enough, you fail to address the actual facts because you didn't like his tone and thought it was a personal attack because he said your argument was "stupid".



On February 12 2017 04:31 JimmiC wrote:
Even for you this a stupid argument.

argument ad hominem

i addressed the facts. i'm not repeating myself. i have no idea what his "tone" is. this is a forum board. you have no idea whether i liked or didn't like his "tone". this is going way, way off topic and i'd rather talk about the UFC than discuss speculation about what i think about someone else's flame bait post.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 12 2017 08:04 GMT
#1120
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