EPTI feel like this is a counterfactual we're going to be talking about for a decade.
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Jibba
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I feel like this is a counterfactual we're going to be talking about for a decade. | ||
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Ace
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On February 26 2015 15:08 Jibba wrote: Since we're past mid-season, how have people's opinions changed on Wiggins/Cavs? Still the right call? Even though the Cavs could've still gotten Love in the off-season. I feel like this is a counterfactual we're going to be talking about for a decade. I think it was better for both parties, Lebron wants to contend now and Wiggins will develop better on the Wolves with less pressure/a greater role. I think the trade might be poorer in the long term for the Cavs though. I think the rumors of Love not re-signing are mostly speculation and unfounded but it'll be hilarious if he doesn't. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
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Dante08
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Itsmedudeman
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
having said that wiggins is already outperforming his rookie contract and he'll be one of the best contracts going forward if this pace of improvement continues with more physical maturity. dude's finishing well at the rim already and can play good one on one defense. don't think kevin love is the difference for the cavs in terms of winning a championship, and this is the only scenario in whcih the trade would make sense. there's no way cavs or lebron would make the same trade at that same juncture in time with the hindsight knowledge we know now. if they do not win this year then they just paid years of wiggins for a few regular season wins, not worth | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16859 Posts
On February 26 2015 01:47 Jibba wrote: We're not negative because of 3 second sound bites. We're negative because of Rose's injury history and his history of recovery. as i said in my post .. a meniscectomy involves a much shorter recovery time. http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/12388691/derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-surgery-friday the DRs were really specific about this a couple of days ago. Yet many jumped the gun and declared Derrick Rose finished. a meniscectomy is usually the route taken once you've retorn a repaired meniscus. as an example, Dwayne Wade had a meniscectomy in college and was able to play at a peak level for many years before his knee started to deteriorate the last couple of years. also, he may only have a small portion of his meniscus removed. it really boils down to waiting until the surgeon opens him up to see exactly what is going on. an MRI is a quantum leap better than any X-Ray, but its still not perfect. Rose is in a rough spot , but don't count him out yet. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On February 26 2015 20:27 Itsmedudeman wrote: I feel like the Cavs could have done without Love and gotten a better bench and still have been just as good if not better this year. Love just isn't really worth his salary on the Cavs atm. yup imagine if wiggins was on the cavs. but no one could see love sucking so much. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On February 27 2015 11:53 zev318 wrote: yup imagine if wiggins was on the cavs. but no one could see love sucking so much. Wiggins would be in a logjam and not be doing nearly as good? Love is also coming on strong lately. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On February 27 2015 11:59 red_ wrote: Wiggins would be in a logjam and not be doing nearly as good? Love is also coming on strong lately. i was speaking purely from a fast break perspective, but i mean i think he could play at SF/SG and they did trade for shumpert and smith, so clearly CLE thought they needed depth there. so i think he would have gotten decent amount of minutes, had he stayed at CLE, whether backing up lebron or getting minutes at SG. at the very beginning of the season though, i could see your point, cause he would have been behind lebron, waiters, marion and miller? | ||
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oneofthem
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zev318
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On the whole, I think that we still have to wait and see if Love can have as meaningful of an impact as Bosh did in Miami, as Bosh is clearly the superior defender. While this makes it a lot harder for him to be as useful, the chance is there. At worst, he's a bad defender and a great floor spacer because he warrants the respect of the defense. This won't show up on the boxscore, but Korver-esque gravity is nice stuff. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On February 26 2015 20:38 Itsmedudeman wrote: old mostly tony parker is old and nobody else can drive the offense | ||
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oneofthem
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On February 27 2015 13:40 cLutZ wrote: The only thing about Cleveland that concerns me is that they picked up Perkins. Like...seriously? Its a net negative to have him on your team, even if you don't think he is gonna play, because he will jedi mind trick your coach into playing him. seemed like a move the cavs just did because they couldnt find any easy assets to acquire | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On February 27 2015 13:40 cLutZ wrote: The only thing about Cleveland that concerns me is that they picked up Perkins. Like...seriously? Its a net negative to have him on your team, even if you don't think he is gonna play, because he will jedi mind trick your coach into playing him. Or, you know, Scott Brooks isn't a good coach | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On February 27 2015 08:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote: as i said in my post .. a meniscectomy involves a much shorter recovery time. http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/12388691/derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-surgery-friday the DRs were really specific about this a couple of days ago. Yet many jumped the gun and declared Derrick Rose finished. a meniscectomy is usually the route taken once you've retorn a repaired meniscus. as an example, Dwayne Wade had a meniscectomy in college and was able to play at a peak level for many years before his knee started to deteriorate the last couple of years. also, he may only have a small portion of his meniscus removed. it really boils down to waiting until the surgeon opens him up to see exactly what is going on. an MRI is a quantum leap better than any X-Ray, but its still not perfect. Rose is in a rough spot , but don't count him out yet. Dwayne Wade and D Rose come back from injuries completely differently. I know the injury and I know some athletes like Wade and Bledsoe that deal with it. But Rose's leg issues are compounded on top of each other, and he's not exactly headstrong when he comes back from injuries. He might make it back to a high level quickly, but at this point I think the onus is on him to prove us wrong, not the other way around. In other news, Lebron James is still the best player in basketball. | ||
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