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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24152 Posts
June 08 2015 21:16 GMT
#15361
On June 09 2015 06:02 Faruko wrote:
So who is supposed to win the female WC ?


USA! USA! USA! + Show Spoiler +
or Germany
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
June 08 2015 21:27 GMT
#15362
So after watching a few minutes of sweden-nigeria (3-2 with 20 minutes to play), I'm positively surprised by the nigerians. Both teams would easily make it out of probably any other group. Groups look really, really uneven to me.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
June 08 2015 21:32 GMT
#15363
Nigeria - Sweden is a really fun game to watch. Quality of play is decent, too.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
June 08 2015 21:34 GMT
#15364
On June 09 2015 06:02 Faruko wrote:
So who is supposed to win the female WC ?


Germany and US are co-favorites.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2742 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 21:37:12
June 08 2015 21:37 GMT
#15365
What about Japan this year? Did they loose key players after the last world cup?
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 21:46:05
June 08 2015 21:40 GMT
#15366
This is our town, scrub
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 21:44:53
June 08 2015 21:44 GMT
#15367
When China decides to take football seriously we will be fucked.

i mean if Uruguay can do it and that country has more cows than people why not China ?... what are the chances of NOT FINDING 22 good football players out of 1.400.000.000
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 21:47:34
June 08 2015 21:44 GMT
#15368
On June 09 2015 06:27 Mafe wrote:
So after watching a few minutes of sweden-nigeria (3-2 with 20 minutes to play), I'm positively surprised by the nigerians. Both teams would easily make it out of probably any other group. Groups look really, really uneven to me.


I was wondering about that too. USA, Sweden and Australia are top-10/world and Nigeria are African champions. Then you look at Germany's group and one game is 4-0 and the other is 10-0. Makes you wonder who's paying the drawers for the women's tournament haha.
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
June 08 2015 21:47 GMT
#15369
On June 09 2015 06:37 haitike wrote:
What about Japan this year? Did they loose key players after the last world cup?


Not sure about the players, but they haven't been super impressive in the time in between.

Odds rankings are like:

USA and Germany 3/1 or so each

France and Brazil 7/1 or so each

Japan 10/1 and Canada 10/1 or so each

Sweden 12/1 or so

then like
England and Norway at 25/1
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24152 Posts
June 08 2015 21:47 GMT
#15370
Is it me or do they just not even enforce throw in rules at the top levels?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 21:48:07
June 08 2015 21:47 GMT
#15371
wow. Nigeria doing much better than I expected. The other 3 teams in the group are supposed to be top 10 while Nigeria is listed at 33rd. Would be bad for Sweden to drop points
On June 09 2015 06:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
Is it me or do they just not even enforce throw in rules at the top levels?

seems to be hit or miss. they enforced it on Casillas during champions league semis
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 21:54:48
June 08 2015 21:54 GMT
#15372
On June 09 2015 06:27 Mafe wrote:
So after watching a few minutes of sweden-nigeria (3-2 with 20 minutes to play), I'm positively surprised by the nigerians. Both teams would easily make it out of probably any other group. Groups look really, really uneven to me.


The US-Sweden-Nigeria-Australia group is ridiculously stacked compared to others.

Also Nigeria got the equalizer 87' for 3-3 draw.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
June 08 2015 22:05 GMT
#15373
On June 09 2015 06:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
Is it me or do they just not even enforce throw in rules at the top levels?

They only enforce those if you flagrantly ignore them, small stuff they just let slide.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
June 08 2015 22:16 GMT
#15374
Well, it seems like Vidal is pretty much out of Juventus, while its supposedly to go to Arsenal, there are rumours that Real Madrid are putting a 50m offer for him thou.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9956 Posts
June 08 2015 22:34 GMT
#15375
On June 09 2015 07:16 Faruko wrote:
Well, it seems like Vidal is pretty much out of Juventus, while its supposedly to go to Arsenal, there are rumours that Real Madrid are putting a 50m offer for him thou.


I hope he goes to Arsenal. Should make things interesting next season.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 22:52:15
June 08 2015 22:40 GMT
#15376
On June 09 2015 06:44 Faruko wrote:
When China decides to take football seriously we will be fucked.

i mean if Uruguay can do it and that country has more cows than people why not China ?... what are the chances of NOT FINDING 22 good football players out of 1.400.000.000


Dude actually China has been trying for the past 17 years. They have insane programs with the same robotic level of training and shit with kids that are promising sent into mountains and all from an early age to live ascetic lifestyles and get groomed for

It just hasnt worked. It was a big story around the 2002 WC that they would be a real force (atleast in Asia) doing this but it seems to have fizzled out and failed miserably.

Maybe their priorities have shifted in that period though.

On June 08 2015 21:55 Pandemona wrote:

I think some of your arguments are stupid as well reason i got baited in this shit storm of utter shite.


They could be but then please present something to back it up. Most of the times its anecdotal shit like "this guy said that" or "that guy said this". Hard to take seriously. I try to be as objective as possible although confirmation bias is hard to avoid.


Its a very simple process, but the real issue is that everyone parameters seem to be different. World cups seem to be a really big deal when I think winning a Euro is way harder and of more value in terms of rating how good a team or player is.

World cups wins, what a joke of an argument really. Its literally presented as an argument because everyone knows its a scarce opportunity thing to win. No one even gives a shit about international football most of the time and its not even of the same caliber. But yeah I suppose there really is no point in being logical about things when people's minds are made up about something. People like what they like I guess.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18712 Posts
June 08 2015 23:03 GMT
#15377
On June 09 2015 07:40 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 06:44 Faruko wrote:
When China decides to take football seriously we will be fucked.

i mean if Uruguay can do it and that country has more cows than people why not China ?... what are the chances of NOT FINDING 22 good football players out of 1.400.000.000


Dude actually China has been trying for the past 17 years. They have insane programs with the same robotic level of training and shit with kids that are promising sent into mountains and all from an early age to live ascetic lifestyles and get groomed for

It just hasnt worked. It was a big story around the 2002 WC that they would be a real force (atleast in Asia) doing this but it seems to have fizzled out and failed miserably.

Maybe their priorities have shifted in that period though.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2015 21:55 Pandemona wrote:

I think some of your arguments are stupid as well reason i got baited in this shit storm of utter shite.


They could be but then please present something to back it up. Most of the times its anecdotal shit like "this guy said that" or "that guy said this". Hard to take seriously. I try to be as objective as possible although confirmation bias is hard to avoid.


Its a very simple process, but the real issue is that everyone parameters seem to be different. World cups seem to be a really big deal when I think winning a Euro is way harder and of more value in terms of rating how good a team or player is.

World cups wins, what a joke of an argument really. Its literally presented as an argument because everyone knows its a scarce opportunity thing to win. No one even gives a shit about international football most of the time and its not even of the same caliber. But yeah I suppose there really is no point in being logical about things when people's minds are made up about something. People like what they like I guess.


Chinese national team has the problem with corruption. Not the best get called but the ones with the best connections/money.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 23:12:08
June 08 2015 23:10 GMT
#15378
On June 09 2015 08:03 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 07:40 Rebs wrote:
On June 09 2015 06:44 Faruko wrote:
When China decides to take football seriously we will be fucked.

i mean if Uruguay can do it and that country has more cows than people why not China ?... what are the chances of NOT FINDING 22 good football players out of 1.400.000.000


Dude actually China has been trying for the past 17 years. They have insane programs with the same robotic level of training and shit with kids that are promising sent into mountains and all from an early age to live ascetic lifestyles and get groomed for

It just hasnt worked. It was a big story around the 2002 WC that they would be a real force (atleast in Asia) doing this but it seems to have fizzled out and failed miserably.

Maybe their priorities have shifted in that period though.

On June 08 2015 21:55 Pandemona wrote:

I think some of your arguments are stupid as well reason i got baited in this shit storm of utter shite.


They could be but then please present something to back it up. Most of the times its anecdotal shit like "this guy said that" or "that guy said this". Hard to take seriously. I try to be as objective as possible although confirmation bias is hard to avoid.


Its a very simple process, but the real issue is that everyone parameters seem to be different. World cups seem to be a really big deal when I think winning a Euro is way harder and of more value in terms of rating how good a team or player is.

World cups wins, what a joke of an argument really. Its literally presented as an argument because everyone knows its a scarce opportunity thing to win. No one even gives a shit about international football most of the time and its not even of the same caliber. But yeah I suppose there really is no point in being logical about things when people's minds are made up about something. People like what they like I guess.


Chinese national team has the problem with corruption. Not the best get called but the ones with the best connections/money.


Interesting that may well be true. I did hear from a friend that alot of the lower level coaches push favourites to make names for themselves. Basically if everyone sucks and your guy is better by virture of better support its easier to stand out.

There is plenty of corruption in China in most sectors but its kinda institutionalized and doesnt tend to affect most of the performance, not too much anyway. Usually if it starts affecting performances then the Govt tends to put its foot down, if things are going well they dont mind people stuffing their pockets. Call it an informal bonus if you will.

Thats my experience working with China atleast.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 09 2015 00:00 GMT
#15379
Much more impressed with Australia than USA so far this game
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24152 Posts
June 09 2015 01:21 GMT
#15380
US ran a clinic on how to finish a game you're winning. GG USA! USA! USA!
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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