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On December 21 2014 01:05 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 00:57 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 00:53 AsnSensation wrote:On December 21 2014 00:41 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 00:37 Dingodile wrote:On December 21 2014 00:19 Stratos_speAr wrote:
So at what point do we just admit that Dortmund is a bad team?
There really isn't anything good about this team, but everyone keeps talking about "what's wrong with Dortmund? They should be better! They have so much talent! It's a bad run of form! It's low confidence!"
Over 17 fucking games the only good players we have are Reus and Gündogan. The rest are anywhere from "absolutely fucking terrible" to "mediocre".
This team is simply bad. The manager seems more and more 1-dimensional every game we see and the players just don't seem to be any good, which makes our front office look utterly incompetent, considering how much money was spent (or not spent). I will remember this post if BVB gains 30+ points at second half of the season. BVB was always better at 2nd half. You have to consider that BVB cant buy top players. Do you remember how good Götze or Lewandowski were at their first year? Lewa scored a total of 8 goals at his first BVB year . Immobile is most likely surpass it. BVB highest earner is lower than 3m. Even lowest Bayern earner (except 2nd and 3rd GK) earns more than 3m. Funnily we know now how much the year-salary of Marco Reus since his license driver accident. It is ~2,2m€ (his punishment is based on his year-salary). Yes, yes, we all know that we can't afford the superstar players. But what about the money that we DID spend? And if you think this God-awful squad is getting 30+ points in the Rückrunde without any transfers, you're out of your fucking mind. There's absolutely nothing about this squad that shows us that they can even string 2 wins together, let alone 10 in the second half of the season. I agree, maybe the argument of a slump was still acceptable after 6 or 7 weeks but they've been completely shit for half a season now and teams don't make a sudden 180 over the winterbreak and it's not like Dortmund currently has a huge injury list with crucial players. Dortmund probably won't get relegated but won't play for champions league either. Reus and Sokratis are pretty critical injuries. That said, even with them in the lineup, the team looked questionable. Unless a quality signing is made up front and/or in the back during the Winter Break, Dortmund will remain one of the worst teams in the BL (because they are a bad team, not on a bad run of form) and may very well be relegated. Who is a quality signing? And how do you recognize one? It's always easy to say Immobile and Ramos suck AFTER their signing. Immobile was hyped a lot and still played horribly this season.
Immobile didn't play horribly. He's been one of the better players.
A quality signing is one that can make an immediate impact. I'd prefer in the defense, since it's absolutely atrocious. The offense is disappointing, but still good enough to score, especially if the defense can actually perform.
Oh good God Kagawa...
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On December 21 2014 01:05 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Klopp needs to not sit on his ass and actually make changes. Bench Grosskreutz and put in Kuba. Shit, bench Ginter and put in another midfielder/attacker/anyone else and go 3 at the back. You absolutely have to win this game to salvage anything from the Hinrunde.
I dont know why he even plays Ginter. Like, for real. I really dont know. He has been terrible in every game he played. He already cost us quite some points because he is bad. Ginter is just the worst singing ever made, and that for 10 millions. We could get another Sokratis for that.
yeah and Kagawa is worse than when he came from fucking Japan the first time. Now he has so much experience in 2 of the best leagues and he became god awefull
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falcao equalizes for man utd!
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On December 21 2014 01:07 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 01:05 sharkie wrote:On December 21 2014 00:57 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 00:53 AsnSensation wrote:On December 21 2014 00:41 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 00:37 Dingodile wrote:On December 21 2014 00:19 Stratos_speAr wrote:
So at what point do we just admit that Dortmund is a bad team?
There really isn't anything good about this team, but everyone keeps talking about "what's wrong with Dortmund? They should be better! They have so much talent! It's a bad run of form! It's low confidence!"
Over 17 fucking games the only good players we have are Reus and Gündogan. The rest are anywhere from "absolutely fucking terrible" to "mediocre".
This team is simply bad. The manager seems more and more 1-dimensional every game we see and the players just don't seem to be any good, which makes our front office look utterly incompetent, considering how much money was spent (or not spent). I will remember this post if BVB gains 30+ points at second half of the season. BVB was always better at 2nd half. You have to consider that BVB cant buy top players. Do you remember how good Götze or Lewandowski were at their first year? Lewa scored a total of 8 goals at his first BVB year . Immobile is most likely surpass it. BVB highest earner is lower than 3m. Even lowest Bayern earner (except 2nd and 3rd GK) earns more than 3m. Funnily we know now how much the year-salary of Marco Reus since his license driver accident. It is ~2,2m€ (his punishment is based on his year-salary). Yes, yes, we all know that we can't afford the superstar players. But what about the money that we DID spend? And if you think this God-awful squad is getting 30+ points in the Rückrunde without any transfers, you're out of your fucking mind. There's absolutely nothing about this squad that shows us that they can even string 2 wins together, let alone 10 in the second half of the season. I agree, maybe the argument of a slump was still acceptable after 6 or 7 weeks but they've been completely shit for half a season now and teams don't make a sudden 180 over the winterbreak and it's not like Dortmund currently has a huge injury list with crucial players. Dortmund probably won't get relegated but won't play for champions league either. Reus and Sokratis are pretty critical injuries. That said, even with them in the lineup, the team looked questionable. Unless a quality signing is made up front and/or in the back during the Winter Break, Dortmund will remain one of the worst teams in the BL (because they are a bad team, not on a bad run of form) and may very well be relegated. Who is a quality signing? And how do you recognize one? It's always easy to say Immobile and Ramos suck AFTER their signing. Immobile was hyped a lot and still played horribly this season. Immobile didn't play horribly. He's been one of the better players. A quality signing is one that can make an immediate impact. I'd prefer in the defense, since it's absolutely atrocious. The offense is disappointing, but still good enough to score, especially if the defense can actually perform. Oh good God Kagawa...
Immobile DID play horribly. Even in that last game where everyone said he played so well he missed AT LEAST two chances a good striker should convert.
If Immobile had converted half, HALF, not all his chances this season BVB would have never sunk so low.
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On December 21 2014 01:10 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 01:07 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 01:05 sharkie wrote:On December 21 2014 00:57 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 00:53 AsnSensation wrote:On December 21 2014 00:41 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 00:37 Dingodile wrote:On December 21 2014 00:19 Stratos_speAr wrote:
So at what point do we just admit that Dortmund is a bad team?
There really isn't anything good about this team, but everyone keeps talking about "what's wrong with Dortmund? They should be better! They have so much talent! It's a bad run of form! It's low confidence!"
Over 17 fucking games the only good players we have are Reus and Gündogan. The rest are anywhere from "absolutely fucking terrible" to "mediocre".
This team is simply bad. The manager seems more and more 1-dimensional every game we see and the players just don't seem to be any good, which makes our front office look utterly incompetent, considering how much money was spent (or not spent). I will remember this post if BVB gains 30+ points at second half of the season. BVB was always better at 2nd half. You have to consider that BVB cant buy top players. Do you remember how good Götze or Lewandowski were at their first year? Lewa scored a total of 8 goals at his first BVB year . Immobile is most likely surpass it. BVB highest earner is lower than 3m. Even lowest Bayern earner (except 2nd and 3rd GK) earns more than 3m. Funnily we know now how much the year-salary of Marco Reus since his license driver accident. It is ~2,2m€ (his punishment is based on his year-salary). Yes, yes, we all know that we can't afford the superstar players. But what about the money that we DID spend? And if you think this God-awful squad is getting 30+ points in the Rückrunde without any transfers, you're out of your fucking mind. There's absolutely nothing about this squad that shows us that they can even string 2 wins together, let alone 10 in the second half of the season. I agree, maybe the argument of a slump was still acceptable after 6 or 7 weeks but they've been completely shit for half a season now and teams don't make a sudden 180 over the winterbreak and it's not like Dortmund currently has a huge injury list with crucial players. Dortmund probably won't get relegated but won't play for champions league either. Reus and Sokratis are pretty critical injuries. That said, even with them in the lineup, the team looked questionable. Unless a quality signing is made up front and/or in the back during the Winter Break, Dortmund will remain one of the worst teams in the BL (because they are a bad team, not on a bad run of form) and may very well be relegated. Who is a quality signing? And how do you recognize one? It's always easy to say Immobile and Ramos suck AFTER their signing. Immobile was hyped a lot and still played horribly this season. Immobile didn't play horribly. He's been one of the better players. A quality signing is one that can make an immediate impact. I'd prefer in the defense, since it's absolutely atrocious. The offense is disappointing, but still good enough to score, especially if the defense can actually perform. Oh good God Kagawa... Immobile DID play horribly. Even in that last game where everyone said he played so well he missed AT LEAST two chances a good striker should convert. If Immobile had converted half, HALF, not all his chances this season BVB would have never sunk so low.
Immobile's missed some chances and made some poor passes but he hasn't been nearly as bad as Mkhi. He scored 4 goals in the CL and a couple now in the BL. There was at least one chance against Wolfsburg where the keeper made a spectacular save and there was nothing Immobile could do. Immobile hasn't been Lewandowski, but he's been a perfectly good striker that would have scored a lot more goals if our LW/CAM weren't so suspect.
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Immobile was awefull at the start but he became a lot better during the last games. Maybe he is getting used to the way he has to play. He was pretty good vs Wolfsburg and if he continues like that he could pick up 10-15 goals total just in Bundesliga, which is quite good.
But the rest of the team has to score aswell..
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I love that BVB has like 200 more completed passes than Bremen and still they loose and are the worse team. Shows you how they just dont know what to do with the ball
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Uhmm how did Agbonlahor get a RC for that challenge? I'm rather stumped by it =/
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Cmon United! Score 1 more now.
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I'm interested about what Klopp and the team are going to say after this game. Unlucky? "We work had and are motivated but just cant get it together on a playday"? "We are better than this"?
Nothing of this is true. There comes a point where you should admit that you are bad and have a motivation problem.
If i was Reus i would be so fucking gone in the summer. You get injured en masse and as a thank you everybody expects you to play like a god and bring points home
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Dortmund:
Most losses in the Bundesliga.
3rd lowest goals scored.
4th most goals allowed.
Can be dead last if Freiburg draw/win against Hannover.
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Lets talk about Everton = Tim Howard.
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I'm pretty sure that messi forgot he's left footed.
Think his last 9 out of 11 goals were right footed, lol.
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On December 21 2014 00:58 BlackCompany wrote:
This game is just it. This is the lowest point we reached so far and i never thought we could end up here.
This entire team is just a disaster. Hummels today is worse than some 16 year old boy playing his first game. His "partner in crime" for the last years was always medicore/bad, Subotic was never good and Ginter is as bright as a night without moon. Now that Hummels doesnt perform the entire defense is awefull.
2-0 vs Bremen, Klopp doesnt know what to do, the players dont care because hey they get their 5+ millions anyway, no matter what they do. And if BVB gets relegated so what, there will be another team that puts up with those idiots.
They just made sure that every decent BVB fan thinks they are complete morons, and i know that atleast i wont put up with this shit anymore. They can go fuck themselves. Sure i will always be somewhat BVB fan, but they have to show some respect to the fans and atleast work their asses off for me to even consider cheering for them again.
Atleast the year is over, so no more disappointments from now on. My saturdays will be peacefull knowing those retards cant ruin it. Thanks for being useless the last 5 months.
I was always on the side of "they will get their shit together and get 4th placed". Now i think i was wrong...
Bremen was and is god aweful in almost every aspect of their game but still they just won against the team that should challenge Bayern. At the beginning we were saying they might have a shot at winning the title because of the WC. Cant believe this is just a few months behind.
I think it is pretty set that Klopp will leave after this season. Either he has to go because they dont make EL/CL what you cant justifie with that roster and money spend or he will be bought for an absured amount of money because he was able to turn this team arround and lead it to CL. Either way i think hes gone.
Also i wouldnt be surprised if they announce Reus to Bayern the next days to get rid of the topic for the second half of the season.
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On December 21 2014 01:10 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 01:07 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 01:05 sharkie wrote:On December 21 2014 00:57 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 00:53 AsnSensation wrote:On December 21 2014 00:41 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 00:37 Dingodile wrote:On December 21 2014 00:19 Stratos_speAr wrote:
So at what point do we just admit that Dortmund is a bad team?
There really isn't anything good about this team, but everyone keeps talking about "what's wrong with Dortmund? They should be better! They have so much talent! It's a bad run of form! It's low confidence!"
Over 17 fucking games the only good players we have are Reus and Gündogan. The rest are anywhere from "absolutely fucking terrible" to "mediocre".
This team is simply bad. The manager seems more and more 1-dimensional every game we see and the players just don't seem to be any good, which makes our front office look utterly incompetent, considering how much money was spent (or not spent). I will remember this post if BVB gains 30+ points at second half of the season. BVB was always better at 2nd half. You have to consider that BVB cant buy top players. Do you remember how good Götze or Lewandowski were at their first year? Lewa scored a total of 8 goals at his first BVB year . Immobile is most likely surpass it. BVB highest earner is lower than 3m. Even lowest Bayern earner (except 2nd and 3rd GK) earns more than 3m. Funnily we know now how much the year-salary of Marco Reus since his license driver accident. It is ~2,2m€ (his punishment is based on his year-salary). Yes, yes, we all know that we can't afford the superstar players. But what about the money that we DID spend? And if you think this God-awful squad is getting 30+ points in the Rückrunde without any transfers, you're out of your fucking mind. There's absolutely nothing about this squad that shows us that they can even string 2 wins together, let alone 10 in the second half of the season. I agree, maybe the argument of a slump was still acceptable after 6 or 7 weeks but they've been completely shit for half a season now and teams don't make a sudden 180 over the winterbreak and it's not like Dortmund currently has a huge injury list with crucial players. Dortmund probably won't get relegated but won't play for champions league either. Reus and Sokratis are pretty critical injuries. That said, even with them in the lineup, the team looked questionable. Unless a quality signing is made up front and/or in the back during the Winter Break, Dortmund will remain one of the worst teams in the BL (because they are a bad team, not on a bad run of form) and may very well be relegated. Who is a quality signing? And how do you recognize one? It's always easy to say Immobile and Ramos suck AFTER their signing. Immobile was hyped a lot and still played horribly this season. Immobile didn't play horribly. He's been one of the better players. A quality signing is one that can make an immediate impact. I'd prefer in the defense, since it's absolutely atrocious. The offense is disappointing, but still good enough to score, especially if the defense can actually perform. Oh good God Kagawa... Immobile DID play horribly. Even in that last game where everyone said he played so well he missed AT LEAST two chances a good striker should convert. If Immobile had converted half, HALF, not all his chances this season BVB would have never sunk so low.
any striker that converts half his chances would be pretty much best in the world and any team with such a striker would be super delighted..
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Holy shit the curve on that shot!
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