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On December 21 2014 02:17 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 01:10 sharkie wrote:On December 21 2014 01:07 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 01:05 sharkie wrote:On December 21 2014 00:57 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 00:53 AsnSensation wrote:On December 21 2014 00:41 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 00:37 Dingodile wrote:On December 21 2014 00:19 Stratos_speAr wrote:
So at what point do we just admit that Dortmund is a bad team?
There really isn't anything good about this team, but everyone keeps talking about "what's wrong with Dortmund? They should be better! They have so much talent! It's a bad run of form! It's low confidence!"
Over 17 fucking games the only good players we have are Reus and Gündogan. The rest are anywhere from "absolutely fucking terrible" to "mediocre".
This team is simply bad. The manager seems more and more 1-dimensional every game we see and the players just don't seem to be any good, which makes our front office look utterly incompetent, considering how much money was spent (or not spent). I will remember this post if BVB gains 30+ points at second half of the season. BVB was always better at 2nd half. You have to consider that BVB cant buy top players. Do you remember how good Götze or Lewandowski were at their first year? Lewa scored a total of 8 goals at his first BVB year . Immobile is most likely surpass it. BVB highest earner is lower than 3m. Even lowest Bayern earner (except 2nd and 3rd GK) earns more than 3m. Funnily we know now how much the year-salary of Marco Reus since his license driver accident. It is ~2,2m€ (his punishment is based on his year-salary). Yes, yes, we all know that we can't afford the superstar players. But what about the money that we DID spend? And if you think this God-awful squad is getting 30+ points in the Rückrunde without any transfers, you're out of your fucking mind. There's absolutely nothing about this squad that shows us that they can even string 2 wins together, let alone 10 in the second half of the season. I agree, maybe the argument of a slump was still acceptable after 6 or 7 weeks but they've been completely shit for half a season now and teams don't make a sudden 180 over the winterbreak and it's not like Dortmund currently has a huge injury list with crucial players. Dortmund probably won't get relegated but won't play for champions league either. Reus and Sokratis are pretty critical injuries. That said, even with them in the lineup, the team looked questionable. Unless a quality signing is made up front and/or in the back during the Winter Break, Dortmund will remain one of the worst teams in the BL (because they are a bad team, not on a bad run of form) and may very well be relegated. Who is a quality signing? And how do you recognize one? It's always easy to say Immobile and Ramos suck AFTER their signing. Immobile was hyped a lot and still played horribly this season. Immobile didn't play horribly. He's been one of the better players. A quality signing is one that can make an immediate impact. I'd prefer in the defense, since it's absolutely atrocious. The offense is disappointing, but still good enough to score, especially if the defense can actually perform. Oh good God Kagawa... Immobile DID play horribly. Even in that last game where everyone said he played so well he missed AT LEAST two chances a good striker should convert. If Immobile had converted half, HALF, not all his chances this season BVB would have never sunk so low. any striker that converts half his chances would be pretty much best in the world and any team with such a striker would be super delighted..
*half his missed chances (who should have and must have been goals)
Sorry for being unclear
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On December 21 2014 02:12 Micro_Jackson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 00:58 BlackCompany wrote:
This game is just it. This is the lowest point we reached so far and i never thought we could end up here.
This entire team is just a disaster. Hummels today is worse than some 16 year old boy playing his first game. His "partner in crime" for the last years was always medicore/bad, Subotic was never good and Ginter is as bright as a night without moon. Now that Hummels doesnt perform the entire defense is awefull.
2-0 vs Bremen, Klopp doesnt know what to do, the players dont care because hey they get their 5+ millions anyway, no matter what they do. And if BVB gets relegated so what, there will be another team that puts up with those idiots.
They just made sure that every decent BVB fan thinks they are complete morons, and i know that atleast i wont put up with this shit anymore. They can go fuck themselves. Sure i will always be somewhat BVB fan, but they have to show some respect to the fans and atleast work their asses off for me to even consider cheering for them again.
Atleast the year is over, so no more disappointments from now on. My saturdays will be peacefull knowing those retards cant ruin it. Thanks for being useless the last 5 months. I was always on the side of "they will get their shit together and get 4th placed". Now i think i was wrong... Bremen was and is god aweful in almost every aspect of their game but still they just won against the team that should challenge Bayern. At the beginning we were saying they might have a shot at winning the title because of the WC. Cant believe this is just a few months behind. I think it is pretty set that Klopp will leave after this season. Either he has to go because they dont make EL/CL what you cant justifie with that roster and money spend or he will be bought for an absured amount of money because he was able to turn this team arround and lead it to CL. Either way i think hes gone. Also i wouldnt be surprised if they announce Reus to Bayern the next days to get rid of the topic for the second half of the season.
I seriously doubt that Reus is going to Bayern. He's probably going to Madrid or England.
As for Klopp, I'm having a pretty hard time seeing him stay as well. Not only is the lose-lose situation of Dortmund taxing as all hell (so he may want to leave), but he is responsible for a hefty amount of the fault concerning BVB's season so far; the team looks extremely one-dimensional, and he can't seem to motivate the players or get them to break down a defense and he seems to be too reluctant to make changes (kept starting a horrific Mkhitaryan, keeps playing the same formation with the same players, etc.). I've been questioning Klopp for the past several weeks and thinking that BVB's spectacular rise may not be his work so much as the work of a once-in-a-generation batch of talent (Reus, Lewandowski, Götze, Gündogan, Hummels).
*half his missed chances (who should have and must have been goals)
Sorry for being unclear
You're really blowing Immobile's faults out of proportion.
Immobile has performed perfectly well. He's as good as any respectable striker in Europe. The problem is that he hasn't been world-class, like Lewandowski. What this has done is expose the faults that BVB had for what they really are. BVB has always been a horribly inefficient team in front of goal because they can't rely on very many people to finish consistently, and this is particularly true with Mkhi (completely untrustworthy), Kagawa (just useless now), Aubameyang (never been a true finisher), and no quality LW to speak of.
BVB has problems across the entire pitch, but the big problem areas are the attacking midfielders and the defensive half of the field. We have absolutely no quality in CAM or LW with Reus injured, meaning that our attack is lopsided and one-dimensional. We have a slew of terrible passers on the team throughout the entire pitch, resulting in trouble breaking down a defense and also leading to easy counters. With Gündogan moved up, our DM is full of injured/tired players and underperformers making poor passes, and we have absolutely atrocious CB's with Hummels playing questionably, Subotic and Ginter being the two worst players on the team, and Sokratis being injured.
The team really, really needs another quality CB for depth and to bench Subotic for long term and to give Hummels a break so he can recover his form, and it also needs someone that can be relied on in CAM/the left to take the pressure off Reus.
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On December 21 2014 02:37 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 02:12 Micro_Jackson wrote:On December 21 2014 00:58 BlackCompany wrote:
This game is just it. This is the lowest point we reached so far and i never thought we could end up here.
This entire team is just a disaster. Hummels today is worse than some 16 year old boy playing his first game. His "partner in crime" for the last years was always medicore/bad, Subotic was never good and Ginter is as bright as a night without moon. Now that Hummels doesnt perform the entire defense is awefull.
2-0 vs Bremen, Klopp doesnt know what to do, the players dont care because hey they get their 5+ millions anyway, no matter what they do. And if BVB gets relegated so what, there will be another team that puts up with those idiots.
They just made sure that every decent BVB fan thinks they are complete morons, and i know that atleast i wont put up with this shit anymore. They can go fuck themselves. Sure i will always be somewhat BVB fan, but they have to show some respect to the fans and atleast work their asses off for me to even consider cheering for them again.
Atleast the year is over, so no more disappointments from now on. My saturdays will be peacefull knowing those retards cant ruin it. Thanks for being useless the last 5 months. I was always on the side of "they will get their shit together and get 4th placed". Now i think i was wrong... Bremen was and is god aweful in almost every aspect of their game but still they just won against the team that should challenge Bayern. At the beginning we were saying they might have a shot at winning the title because of the WC. Cant believe this is just a few months behind. I think it is pretty set that Klopp will leave after this season. Either he has to go because they dont make EL/CL what you cant justifie with that roster and money spend or he will be bought for an absured amount of money because he was able to turn this team arround and lead it to CL. Either way i think hes gone. Also i wouldnt be surprised if they announce Reus to Bayern the next days to get rid of the topic for the second half of the season. I seriously doubt that Reus is going to Bayern. He's probably going to Madrid or England. As for Klopp, I'm having a pretty hard time seeing him stay as well. Not only is the lose-lose situation of Dortmund taxing as all hell (so he may want to leave), but he is responsible for a hefty amount of the fault concerning BVB's season so far; the team looks extremely one-dimensional, and he can't seem to motivate the players or get them to break down a defense and he seems to be too reluctant to make changes (kept starting a horrific Mhkitaryan, keeps playing the same formation with the same players, etc.). I've been questioning Klopp for the past several weeks and thinking that BVB's spectacular rise may not be his work so much as the work of a once-in-a-generation batch of talent (Reus, Lewandowski, Götze, Gündogan, Hummels).
Klopp has improved the level of Mainz' level as well.
You make it sound as if BVB's best times happened only because of Reus, Lewandowski, Götze, Gündogan and Hummels. Stop "schwarzmalen" everything Klopp has done.
Out of these players only Hummels was a major factor in the first very big season of Dortmund...
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On December 21 2014 02:48 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 02:37 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 02:12 Micro_Jackson wrote:On December 21 2014 00:58 BlackCompany wrote:
This game is just it. This is the lowest point we reached so far and i never thought we could end up here.
This entire team is just a disaster. Hummels today is worse than some 16 year old boy playing his first game. His "partner in crime" for the last years was always medicore/bad, Subotic was never good and Ginter is as bright as a night without moon. Now that Hummels doesnt perform the entire defense is awefull.
2-0 vs Bremen, Klopp doesnt know what to do, the players dont care because hey they get their 5+ millions anyway, no matter what they do. And if BVB gets relegated so what, there will be another team that puts up with those idiots.
They just made sure that every decent BVB fan thinks they are complete morons, and i know that atleast i wont put up with this shit anymore. They can go fuck themselves. Sure i will always be somewhat BVB fan, but they have to show some respect to the fans and atleast work their asses off for me to even consider cheering for them again.
Atleast the year is over, so no more disappointments from now on. My saturdays will be peacefull knowing those retards cant ruin it. Thanks for being useless the last 5 months. I was always on the side of "they will get their shit together and get 4th placed". Now i think i was wrong... Bremen was and is god aweful in almost every aspect of their game but still they just won against the team that should challenge Bayern. At the beginning we were saying they might have a shot at winning the title because of the WC. Cant believe this is just a few months behind. I think it is pretty set that Klopp will leave after this season. Either he has to go because they dont make EL/CL what you cant justifie with that roster and money spend or he will be bought for an absured amount of money because he was able to turn this team arround and lead it to CL. Either way i think hes gone. Also i wouldnt be surprised if they announce Reus to Bayern the next days to get rid of the topic for the second half of the season. I seriously doubt that Reus is going to Bayern. He's probably going to Madrid or England. As for Klopp, I'm having a pretty hard time seeing him stay as well. Not only is the lose-lose situation of Dortmund taxing as all hell (so he may want to leave), but he is responsible for a hefty amount of the fault concerning BVB's season so far; the team looks extremely one-dimensional, and he can't seem to motivate the players or get them to break down a defense and he seems to be too reluctant to make changes (kept starting a horrific Mhkitaryan, keeps playing the same formation with the same players, etc.). I've been questioning Klopp for the past several weeks and thinking that BVB's spectacular rise may not be his work so much as the work of a once-in-a-generation batch of talent (Reus, Lewandowski, Götze, Gündogan, Hummels). Klopp has improved the level of Mainz' level as well. You make it sound as if BVB's best times happened only because of Reus, Lewandowski, Götze, Gündogan and Hummels. Stop "schwarzmalen" everything Klopp has done. Out of these players only Hummels was a major factor in the first very big season of Dortmund...
It's not as if Klopp is terrible. He's clearly a high-quality manager that did great things for both Mainz and BVB, but he's something of a God-like figure at this point and it's gotten a little ridiculous. When you have this much (supposed) talent and you've spent this much money, ending up dead last in the league after being 2nd last year while only losing one key piece (Lewandowski) and regaining two (Kuba and Gündogan) raises some very justifiable criticism.
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Relegation battles add completely immense additional pressure to EVERYONE (one reason even Weidenfeller, Kehl and Hummels start going full wtf mode).
The past few weeks are actually easy to explain. Pressure plus small squad just added up to their terrible inefficiency.
What has to be analysed is the horrible abysmal start (September, October).
Which might be explained by injuries and their terrible inefficiency but it still should never happen to a club of BVB's size.
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On December 21 2014 02:37 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 02:12 Micro_Jackson wrote:On December 21 2014 00:58 BlackCompany wrote:
This game is just it. This is the lowest point we reached so far and i never thought we could end up here.
This entire team is just a disaster. Hummels today is worse than some 16 year old boy playing his first game. His "partner in crime" for the last years was always medicore/bad, Subotic was never good and Ginter is as bright as a night without moon. Now that Hummels doesnt perform the entire defense is awefull.
2-0 vs Bremen, Klopp doesnt know what to do, the players dont care because hey they get their 5+ millions anyway, no matter what they do. And if BVB gets relegated so what, there will be another team that puts up with those idiots.
They just made sure that every decent BVB fan thinks they are complete morons, and i know that atleast i wont put up with this shit anymore. They can go fuck themselves. Sure i will always be somewhat BVB fan, but they have to show some respect to the fans and atleast work their asses off for me to even consider cheering for them again.
Atleast the year is over, so no more disappointments from now on. My saturdays will be peacefull knowing those retards cant ruin it. Thanks for being useless the last 5 months. I was always on the side of "they will get their shit together and get 4th placed". Now i think i was wrong... Bremen was and is god aweful in almost every aspect of their game but still they just won against the team that should challenge Bayern. At the beginning we were saying they might have a shot at winning the title because of the WC. Cant believe this is just a few months behind. I think it is pretty set that Klopp will leave after this season. Either he has to go because they dont make EL/CL what you cant justifie with that roster and money spend or he will be bought for an absured amount of money because he was able to turn this team arround and lead it to CL. Either way i think hes gone. Also i wouldnt be surprised if they announce Reus to Bayern the next days to get rid of the topic for the second half of the season. I seriously doubt that Reus is going to Bayern. He's probably going to Madrid or England. As for Klopp, I'm having a pretty hard time seeing him stay as well. Not only is the lose-lose situation of Dortmund taxing as all hell (so he may want to leave), but he is responsible for a hefty amount of the fault concerning BVB's season so far; the team looks extremely one-dimensional, and he can't seem to motivate the players or get them to break down a defense and he seems to be too reluctant to make changes (kept starting a horrific Mhkitaryan, keeps playing the same formation with the same players, etc.). I've been questioning Klopp for the past several weeks and thinking that BVB's spectacular rise may not be his work so much as the work of a once-in-a-generation batch of talent (Reus, Lewandowski, Götze, Gündogan, Hummels).
I think this is going too far. Dont forget in the first half of this season there were plenty games were Dortmund played well but were just very unlucky. There could be easily 6 to 8 more points on the board for them and then we woudnt have the discussion about Klopp. You dont win a CL group randomly and Dortmund was the team this season that gave Bayern the most trouble by far (i am ignoring Mainz because Bayern was just tired and ManC because it makes me cry). Also a win against Gladbach and a draw against Wolfsburg arent easy either.
These things dont happen if you have a bad coach or a bad team.
The thing that happens in my opinion is that Bundesliga is uniquily qualified to hurt Dortmund were they are the weakest. They all know how to press the midfield and counter attack because it is something you can do with relatively "bad (=low budget)" players and these are the two things were Dortmund has his biggest weaknesses.
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If Klopp leaves this season then you can expect Wenger to step down as Arsenal manager. Wenger also knows that Klopp is worthy to leave everything he done at Arsenal.
Reus sent this tweet this during el classico, not sure if he'd join RM.
Reus not going to Bayern Munich. He is loyal to BVB and BVB's supporters. I think he will come to Premier League. If Klopp goes Arsenal then you know what's going to happen  .
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On December 21 2014 02:56 sharkie wrote:
Relegation battles add completely immense additional pressure to EVERYONE (one reason even Weidenfeller, Kehl and Hummels start going full wtf mode).
The past few weeks are actually easy to explain. Pressure plus small squad just added up to their terrible inefficiency.
What has to be analysed is the horrible abysmal start (September, October).
Which might be explained by injuries and their terrible inefficiency but it still should never happen to a club of BVB's size.
I don't see how this can be a mystery. All of BVB's worst performances have been when they possess the ball more.
Against Werder, BVB had something like 65% possession.
Against Hertha, 65%.
Frankfurt? 52%.
Paderborn? 59%.
Hannover? 52%.
Köln? 61%.
Hamburg? 60%.
Mainz? 60%.
Schalke? 53%.
Arsenal loss? 55%.
Anderlecht draw? 58%.
Every game here was a loss except for 2 that were very disappointing draws. Every performance was disappointing and heavily criticized.
Now, for their "good" performances?
Wolfsburg? 39%.
Hoffenheim? 51%.
Bayern? 40%.
Augsburg? 46%.
Arsenal win? 46%.
Anderlecht win? 51%.
Galatasaray wins? 42% and 53%.
Gladbach? 51%, and they didn't even win that one. They were given the win by Kramer.
All wins except for Bayern (loss) and Wolfsburg (draw). Furthermore, these were all seen as good performances.
The only game where Dortmund had a high amount of possession and the win (where they performed well) was against Freiburg (bottom of the table). This team simply cannot play with the ball. They can't make accurate enough passes and they can't break down a defense. Furthermore, their back line is atrocious and it is far more exposed when they possess the ball; when they possess the ball, any counterattack will be past BVB's midfield and will primarily attack BVB's back line, whereas when BVB don't have most of the possession, more of their defending is contributed by the midfielders and so the poor quality of the back line is mitigated.
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I like to hear which players BVB should have bought after the loss to Lewa and Götze. IF they have to buy a player with same level like these two then I say NOBODY can come. In that way I would NOT sell Reus/Hummels to anyone for 50m because 50m wont help BVB at all because BVB cant pay high salary as Bayern or top ENG/ESP/ITA teams.
This is the one huge problem from BVB sight. From all 32 CL teams, at most a pot3 team at salary.
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On December 21 2014 03:27 Dingodile wrote:
I like to hear which players BVB should have bought after the loss to Lewa and Götze. IF they have to buy a player with same level like these two then I say NOBODY can come. In that way I would NOT sell Reus/Hummels to anyone for 50m because 50m wont help BVB at all because BVB cant pay high salary as Bayern or top ENG/ESP/ITA teams.
This is the one huge problem from BVB sight. From all 32 CL teams, at most a pot3 team at salary.
More defensive depth would've been nice. We've only signed Sokratis, Ginter, and Durm for the back 4, and Ginter is awful and Durm quite young still. Jojic was signed for the DM, but he never plays. Everyone else that was signed was signed to make up for the loss of Lewandowski and Götze.
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On December 21 2014 02:56 sharkie wrote:
Relegation battles add completely immense additional pressure to EVERYONE (one reason even Weidenfeller, Kehl and Hummels start going full wtf mode).
The past few weeks are actually easy to explain. Pressure plus small squad just added up to their terrible inefficiency.
What has to be analysed is the horrible abysmal start (September, October).
Which might be explained by injuries and their terrible inefficiency but it still should never happen to a club of BVB's size.
I'm happy I missed today's game for a birthday "party". Just to add one thing: Kehl still suffers from a bruised rib. The whole day of the Wolfsburg game he was taking pain killers so he can start and he was left on the pitch all game long. As I said weeks ago I'd prefer a healthy and motivated player from the 2nd team over some of our players at the moment. I will never doubt that Kehl tries his best but he knows about his injury and the pain and that has an impact on his thoughts and his game.
I hope we'll hear something new the day the transfer window opens. If Reus doesn't extend his contract without a clause until that day we should make clear that we're buying somebody.
In addition we should search for somebody like Manuel Friedrich last year: get some 35 year old fucking experienced guy as a cb who'll enjoy the money when he doesn't make the roster one game and who's calm enough to withstand all the pressure no matter the situation and the opponent.
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On December 21 2014 03:38 smr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 02:56 sharkie wrote:
Relegation battles add completely immense additional pressure to EVERYONE (one reason even Weidenfeller, Kehl and Hummels start going full wtf mode).
The past few weeks are actually easy to explain. Pressure plus small squad just added up to their terrible inefficiency.
What has to be analysed is the horrible abysmal start (September, October).
Which might be explained by injuries and their terrible inefficiency but it still should never happen to a club of BVB's size. I'm happy I missed today's game for a birthday "party". Just to add one thing: Kehl still suffers from a bruised rib. The whole day of the Wolfsburg game he was taking pain killers so he can start and he was left on the pitch all game long. As I said weeks ago I'd prefer a healthy and motivated player from the 2nd team over some of our players at the moment. I will never doubt that Kehl tries his best but he knows about his injury and the pain and that has an impact on his thoughts and his game. I hope we'll hear something new the day the transfer window opens. If Reus doesn't extend his contract without a clause until that day we should make clear that we're buying somebody. In addition we should search for somebody like Manuel Friedrich last year: get some 35 year old fucking experienced guy as a cb who'll enjoy the money when he doesn't make the roster one game and who's calm enough to withstand all the pressure no matter the situation and the opponent.
Supposedly BVB has stated that they won't be buying any players unless they sell them during the Winter Window.
Yea, I'm not exactly sure that I have much hope for this team at all in the coming years.
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On December 21 2014 03:08 Mensol wrote:If Klopp leaves this season then you can expect Wenger to step down as Arsenal manager. Wenger also knows that Klopp is worthy to leave everything he done at Arsenal. Reus sent this tweet this during el classico, not sure if he'd join RM.Reus not going to Bayern Munich. He is loyal to BVB and BVB's supporters. I think he will come to Premier League. If Klopp goes Arsenal then you know what's going to happen .
Reus is 25 now, this is the time were you go from "very good football player" to "footballstar". This has nothing to do with loyality its about what is right for his career and Bayern is the perfect fit on all levels as far as we know.
On December 21 2014 03:49 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 03:38 smr wrote:On December 21 2014 02:56 sharkie wrote:
Relegation battles add completely immense additional pressure to EVERYONE (one reason even Weidenfeller, Kehl and Hummels start going full wtf mode).
The past few weeks are actually easy to explain. Pressure plus small squad just added up to their terrible inefficiency.
What has to be analysed is the horrible abysmal start (September, October).
Which might be explained by injuries and their terrible inefficiency but it still should never happen to a club of BVB's size. I'm happy I missed today's game for a birthday "party". Just to add one thing: Kehl still suffers from a bruised rib. The whole day of the Wolfsburg game he was taking pain killers so he can start and he was left on the pitch all game long. As I said weeks ago I'd prefer a healthy and motivated player from the 2nd team over some of our players at the moment. I will never doubt that Kehl tries his best but he knows about his injury and the pain and that has an impact on his thoughts and his game. I hope we'll hear something new the day the transfer window opens. If Reus doesn't extend his contract without a clause until that day we should make clear that we're buying somebody. In addition we should search for somebody like Manuel Friedrich last year: get some 35 year old fucking experienced guy as a cb who'll enjoy the money when he doesn't make the roster one game and who's calm enough to withstand all the pressure no matter the situation and the opponent. Supposedly BVB has stated that they won't be buying any players unless they sell them during the Winter Window. Yea, I'm not exactly sure that I have much hope for this team at all in the coming years.
This is the right decision, there is nothing on the market what is available and would have an immediate impact. They would spend 20 million for mediocrety that lifts them from place 11 to place 9 at the end of this season or something like that for money they would miss for the rebuild.
I am sure Klopp would like to murder Bayern of snatching Xabi Alonso.
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On December 21 2014 03:49 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 03:38 smr wrote:On December 21 2014 02:56 sharkie wrote:
Relegation battles add completely immense additional pressure to EVERYONE (one reason even Weidenfeller, Kehl and Hummels start going full wtf mode).
The past few weeks are actually easy to explain. Pressure plus small squad just added up to their terrible inefficiency.
What has to be analysed is the horrible abysmal start (September, October).
Which might be explained by injuries and their terrible inefficiency but it still should never happen to a club of BVB's size. I'm happy I missed today's game for a birthday "party". Just to add one thing: Kehl still suffers from a bruised rib. The whole day of the Wolfsburg game he was taking pain killers so he can start and he was left on the pitch all game long. As I said weeks ago I'd prefer a healthy and motivated player from the 2nd team over some of our players at the moment. I will never doubt that Kehl tries his best but he knows about his injury and the pain and that has an impact on his thoughts and his game. I hope we'll hear something new the day the transfer window opens. If Reus doesn't extend his contract without a clause until that day we should make clear that we're buying somebody. In addition we should search for somebody like Manuel Friedrich last year: get some 35 year old fucking experienced guy as a cb who'll enjoy the money when he doesn't make the roster one game and who's calm enough to withstand all the pressure no matter the situation and the opponent. Supposedly BVB has stated that they won't be buying any players unless they sell them during the Winter Window. Yea, I'm not exactly sure that I have much hope for this team at all in the coming years.
I don't believe what they say right now. Saying "we'll buy a cb, lw and om" would make those who play even worse because they feel that they aren't trusted anymore. Even if this was a good approach to motivate some of them it's against our slogan and the management's mentality. Add that Reus and Mkhi are still injured and Langerak, Kagawa and Aubameyang will leave for their continental cups.
Regarding transfers and playstyle we should have another look at Pep. I think we should've forced ourselves into a 3 man defense. Somebody in this thread (Micro was that you?) suggested it months ago. Even if that costed us the first 5 games because we aren't used to it we need to learn possession. We might not be fans of Bayern's games but the league forces us into that direction. We can't choose to counter attack anymore. The team has to calm down, be fine with 5 minutes of passing around waiting for the hole in the defense.
On December 21 2014 04:06 Micro_Jackson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 03:49 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 03:38 smr wrote:On December 21 2014 02:56 sharkie wrote:
Relegation battles add completely immense additional pressure to EVERYONE (one reason even Weidenfeller, Kehl and Hummels start going full wtf mode).
The past few weeks are actually easy to explain. Pressure plus small squad just added up to their terrible inefficiency.
What has to be analysed is the horrible abysmal start (September, October).
Which might be explained by injuries and their terrible inefficiency but it still should never happen to a club of BVB's size. I'm happy I missed today's game for a birthday "party". Just to add one thing: Kehl still suffers from a bruised rib. The whole day of the Wolfsburg game he was taking pain killers so he can start and he was left on the pitch all game long. As I said weeks ago I'd prefer a healthy and motivated player from the 2nd team over some of our players at the moment. I will never doubt that Kehl tries his best but he knows about his injury and the pain and that has an impact on his thoughts and his game. I hope we'll hear something new the day the transfer window opens. If Reus doesn't extend his contract without a clause until that day we should make clear that we're buying somebody. In addition we should search for somebody like Manuel Friedrich last year: get some 35 year old fucking experienced guy as a cb who'll enjoy the money when he doesn't make the roster one game and who's calm enough to withstand all the pressure no matter the situation and the opponent. Supposedly BVB has stated that they won't be buying any players unless they sell them during the Winter Window. Yea, I'm not exactly sure that I have much hope for this team at all in the coming years. This is the right decision, there is nothing on the market what is available and would have an immediate impact. They would spend 20 million for mediocrety that lifts them from place 11 to place 9 at the end of this season or something like that for money they would miss for the rebuild. I am sure Klopp would like to murder Bayern of snatching Xabi Alonso.
Spending 20 million for 2-3 players would be a bad choice I totally agree. If we spend money we need to go for high profile signings even if they cost us 5 million more than they would during the next summer. We're talking the likes of El Shaarawy, Pastore, Khedira, Eriksen who are far too costly for us but might be worth it if they save our season.
Yay for fpl-captaining Downing today.
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On December 21 2014 04:06 Micro_Jackson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 03:08 Mensol wrote:If Klopp leaves this season then you can expect Wenger to step down as Arsenal manager. Wenger also knows that Klopp is worthy to leave everything he done at Arsenal. Reus sent this tweet this during el classico, not sure if he'd join RM.Reus not going to Bayern Munich. He is loyal to BVB and BVB's supporters. I think he will come to Premier League. If Klopp goes Arsenal then you know what's going to happen . Reus is 25 now, this is the time were you go from "very good football player" to "footballstar". This has nothing to do with loyality its about what is right for his career and Bayern is the perfect fit on all levels as far as we know. Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 03:49 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 03:38 smr wrote:On December 21 2014 02:56 sharkie wrote:
Relegation battles add completely immense additional pressure to EVERYONE (one reason even Weidenfeller, Kehl and Hummels start going full wtf mode).
The past few weeks are actually easy to explain. Pressure plus small squad just added up to their terrible inefficiency.
What has to be analysed is the horrible abysmal start (September, October).
Which might be explained by injuries and their terrible inefficiency but it still should never happen to a club of BVB's size. I'm happy I missed today's game for a birthday "party". Just to add one thing: Kehl still suffers from a bruised rib. The whole day of the Wolfsburg game he was taking pain killers so he can start and he was left on the pitch all game long. As I said weeks ago I'd prefer a healthy and motivated player from the 2nd team over some of our players at the moment. I will never doubt that Kehl tries his best but he knows about his injury and the pain and that has an impact on his thoughts and his game. I hope we'll hear something new the day the transfer window opens. If Reus doesn't extend his contract without a clause until that day we should make clear that we're buying somebody. In addition we should search for somebody like Manuel Friedrich last year: get some 35 year old fucking experienced guy as a cb who'll enjoy the money when he doesn't make the roster one game and who's calm enough to withstand all the pressure no matter the situation and the opponent. Supposedly BVB has stated that they won't be buying any players unless they sell them during the Winter Window. Yea, I'm not exactly sure that I have much hope for this team at all in the coming years. This is the right decision, there is nothing on the market what is available and would have an immediate impact. They would spend 20 million for mediocrety that lifts them from place 11 to place 9 at the end of this season or something like that for money they would miss for the rebuild. I am sure Klopp would like to murder Bayern of snatching Xabi Alonso.
I don't really see how Reus to Bayern is the perfect fit for him. any number of fantastic teams would love to have him as their starter, and Reus to Bayern would continue to make the Bundesliga actively worse, and it seems like something that Reus is aware of and wants to avoid.
As for transfers, BVB absolutely NEEDS to make at least some transfers for depth, if nothing else. This team has a very real chance of being relegated. It simply isn't good and isn't reliable enough. While Reus and Sokratis will make it a whole lot better, you can't go through another half-season with no depth in the CB/midfield areas. Either one of them (or another player) could get injured again, and then BVB is right back where it is right now, with giant holes in its lineup that cost it points.
Spending 20 million for 2-3 players would be a bad choice I totally agree. If we spend money we need to go for high profile signings even if they cost us 5 million more than they would during the next summer. We're talking the likes of El Shaarawy, Pastore, Khedira who are far too costly for us but might be worth it if they save our season.
Yay for fpl-captaining Downing today.
Unless Ramos/Immobile are sold, I don't see how adding a 3rd striker will help. I also don't see how Pastore would help that much, since we already have Kuba/Mkhi/Aubameyang on the right (of course, Aubameyang SHOULD be on the right more often and Mhki just benched, but alas...). Khedira would definitely help, as he's a great DM, but he does cost a LOT of money.
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On December 21 2014 04:16 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 04:06 Micro_Jackson wrote:On December 21 2014 03:08 Mensol wrote:If Klopp leaves this season then you can expect Wenger to step down as Arsenal manager. Wenger also knows that Klopp is worthy to leave everything he done at Arsenal. Reus sent this tweet this during el classico, not sure if he'd join RM.Reus not going to Bayern Munich. He is loyal to BVB and BVB's supporters. I think he will come to Premier League. If Klopp goes Arsenal then you know what's going to happen . Reus is 25 now, this is the time were you go from "very good football player" to "footballstar". This has nothing to do with loyality its about what is right for his career and Bayern is the perfect fit on all levels as far as we know. On December 21 2014 03:49 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2014 03:38 smr wrote:On December 21 2014 02:56 sharkie wrote:
Relegation battles add completely immense additional pressure to EVERYONE (one reason even Weidenfeller, Kehl and Hummels start going full wtf mode).
The past few weeks are actually easy to explain. Pressure plus small squad just added up to their terrible inefficiency.
What has to be analysed is the horrible abysmal start (September, October).
Which might be explained by injuries and their terrible inefficiency but it still should never happen to a club of BVB's size. I'm happy I missed today's game for a birthday "party". Just to add one thing: Kehl still suffers from a bruised rib. The whole day of the Wolfsburg game he was taking pain killers so he can start and he was left on the pitch all game long. As I said weeks ago I'd prefer a healthy and motivated player from the 2nd team over some of our players at the moment. I will never doubt that Kehl tries his best but he knows about his injury and the pain and that has an impact on his thoughts and his game. I hope we'll hear something new the day the transfer window opens. If Reus doesn't extend his contract without a clause until that day we should make clear that we're buying somebody. In addition we should search for somebody like Manuel Friedrich last year: get some 35 year old fucking experienced guy as a cb who'll enjoy the money when he doesn't make the roster one game and who's calm enough to withstand all the pressure no matter the situation and the opponent. Supposedly BVB has stated that they won't be buying any players unless they sell them during the Winter Window. Yea, I'm not exactly sure that I have much hope for this team at all in the coming years. This is the right decision, there is nothing on the market what is available and would have an immediate impact. They would spend 20 million for mediocrety that lifts them from place 11 to place 9 at the end of this season or something like that for money they would miss for the rebuild. I am sure Klopp would like to murder Bayern of snatching Xabi Alonso. I don't really see how Reus to Bayern is the perfect fit for him. any number of fantastic teams would love to have him as their starter, and Reus to Bayern would continue to make the Bundesliga actively worse, and it seems like something that Reus is aware of and wants to avoid. As for transfers, BVB absolutely NEEDS to make at least some transfers for depth, if nothing else. This team has a very real chance of being relegated. It simply isn't good and isn't reliable enough. While Reus and Sokratis will make it a whole lot better, you can't go through another half-season with no depth in the CB/midfield areas. Either one of them (or another player) could get injured again, and then BVB is right back where it is right now, with giant holes in its lineup that cost it points. Show nested quote +Spending 20 million for 2-3 players would be a bad choice I totally agree. If we spend money we need to go for high profile signings even if they cost us 5 million more than they would during the next summer. We're talking the likes of El Shaarawy, Pastore, Khedira who are far too costly for us but might be worth it if they save our season.
Yay for fpl-captaining Downing today. Unless Ramos/Immobile are sold, I don't see how adding a 3rd striker will help. I also don't see how Pastore would help that much, since we already have Kuba/Mhki/Aubameyang on the right (of course, Aubameyang SHOULD be on the right more often and Mhki just benched, but alas...). Khedira would definitely help, as he's a great DM, but he does cost a LOT of money.
Pulled Pastore out of my ass because it was a rumour during the summer and I needed a big name to make my point clear : D I mentioned El Shaarawy as a Reus successor. I just want to make sure we start integrating the next lw as soon as possible.
Auba should be played as a 2nd striker in a system with two strikers. A 3-5-2 with 3 defensive minded midfielders (Kirch, Sahin and Gündogan/ sub 1 for Bender or Kehl if you need to man mark somebody like de Bruyne) + Reus and X would be something I'd like to see. It can't get any worse. I understand when Klopp chooses the same old formation because he doesn't want to add another "random" factor to our unstable team but after so many weeks I'd just do a 180 during the winter break. Change the system, practice 10% running, 60%passing and 30% shooting. Benchmark for the next starting 11 starts tomorrow. Whoever fails no matter how he important was is benched. If that means we're starting Kirch + Jojic + Ji + 3 strikers I'll 100% support that.
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Pretty ecstatic with the way my FPL team has turned out lately. Was way behind the lead after a couple of weeks, but have climbed a long way recently. If I could pick a decent captain more than once a blue moon, I could actually be in the lead.
The weekly Dortmund report is always a nice mix of sadness and comedy.
Hope we fucking twat Liverpool tomorrow. Would be lovely to rub it in my mate's face, even if we ourselves aren't having a great season.
lol, wow. Pretty surreal stat.
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It feels like a trap game. Everyone in Europe can beat Liverpool right now, so Arsenal should be able to as well right? Knowing Arsenal though, they'll find a way to lose.
I read the other day that in QPR's last 3 seasons in the PL, including this one, they've won just 2 away matches. Once against Chelsea and once against Southampton.
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Arsenal are either going to take Liverpool to the cleaners or lose 1-0 to a freak own goal in the first 5 minutes, it's pretty much destiny.
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Newcastle vs Sunderland game is putting me to sleep TT
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