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On December 18 2014 05:44 BlackCompany wrote:
Fuck my fucking life
fuck
how can you not mark someone like Naldo in the box
same reason Germany didn't mark Puyol back in 2010 - zonal marking, its so stupid and I will never understand it
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We should ask Hamburg to swap defense lines. It's that bad.
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On December 18 2014 05:46 smr wrote:
We should ask Hamburg to swap defense lines. It's that bad.
I could also ask my little cousin. Hes 12 so its a little unfair for BVB when they get such experienced players to join them but..
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On December 18 2014 05:45 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 05:44 BlackCompany wrote:
Fuck my fucking life
fuck
how can you not mark someone like Naldo in the box same reason Germany didn't mark Puyol back in 2010 - zonal marking, its so stupid and I will never understand it
That wasnt even zoning though. Someone thought "well i really dont want trun in minute 87 anymore so i will just stand here and hope nothing bad happens"
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Hertha vs Frankfurt what a crazy match.
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That's 1 point than what I hoped for.
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yuck, i really wanted BVB to win this one >_<
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So 2:2. Thats more what i could have asked for before the match considering the standings and all that stuff.
But now i can only see the incompetence in BVBs defense and 2 badly needed points lost. Another disapooonting evening..oh well i am used to it..
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Obligatory fuck you to Marcel Reif,the german comentator. I dont know why SKY even makes him comentate other games than Bayerns. Because no matter who plays, he will always suck Bayerns dick during his casts.
Its really that bad with him.
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On December 18 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:
So 2:2. Thats more what i could have asked for before the match considering the standings and all that stuff.
But now i can only see the incompetence in BVBs defense and 2 badly needed points lost. Another disapooonting evening..oh well i am used to it..
Yup.
Continued disappointment from Dortmund.
The only positive was Immobile's performance. Everything else was fucking pathetic.
This defense is ten different kinds of absolutely awful. Words really cannot express how shitty it is. The offense is also still pathetically inefficient. BVB should've gotten a good 5 goals out of that game but they didn't. And I continue to question Klopp's decisions. Why the fuck would you leave Aubameyang and Grosskreutz on the field for the entire game?
Yea, if you look at it in a vacuum, it's nice to get 1 point from the #2 team, but we absolutely needed the 3 points, and anything less is failure. Hertha even shit the bed, giving us a chance to overtake them before the Winter Break, but nope.
Even if we somehow win in Bremen (extremely doubtful), we would need roughly FORTY-TWO points to get back into a CL spot. That's 14 fucking wins out of 17 total games in the second half of the season.
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On December 18 2014 05:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:
So 2:2. Thats more what i could have asked for before the match considering the standings and all that stuff.
But now i can only see the incompetence in BVBs defense and 2 badly needed points lost. Another disapooonting evening..oh well i am used to it.. Yup. Continued disappointment from Dortmund. The only positive was Immobile's performance. Everything else was fucking pathetic. This defense is ten different kinds of absolutely awful. Words really cannot express how shitty it is. The offense is also still pathetically inefficient. BVB should've gotten a good 5 goals out of that game but they didn't. And I continue to question Klopp's decisions. Why the fuck would you leave Aubameyang and Grosskreutz on the field for the entire game? Yea, if you look at it in a vacuum, it's nice to get 1 point from the #2 team, but we absolutely needed the 3 points, and anything less is failure. Hertha even shit the bed, giving us a chance to overtake them before the Winter Break, but nope.
I am just so scared about what will happen vs Bremen. Because Bremen will almost 100% score once. And if they score first, things just go downhill in our team. So i pray for the best
ye i was writing the second last playday or so how its only a couple points till europa league. But after the Berlin game i would be happy if they finish on a single digit place. Much more realistic is barely not going down in 2. League. I doubt Reus can work enough wonders to boost us into international business
Edit2: I just hope Zorc and Watze have enough sense to not go into huge debts again to keep buying players even though we dont have the money. Then rather sell people like Reus and Gündogan. I dont want this club to carsh and burn like it almost did some years ago
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On December 18 2014 06:00 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 05:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 18 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:
So 2:2. Thats more what i could have asked for before the match considering the standings and all that stuff.
But now i can only see the incompetence in BVBs defense and 2 badly needed points lost. Another disapooonting evening..oh well i am used to it.. Yup. Continued disappointment from Dortmund. The only positive was Immobile's performance. Everything else was fucking pathetic. This defense is ten different kinds of absolutely awful. Words really cannot express how shitty it is. The offense is also still pathetically inefficient. BVB should've gotten a good 5 goals out of that game but they didn't. And I continue to question Klopp's decisions. Why the fuck would you leave Aubameyang and Grosskreutz on the field for the entire game? Yea, if you look at it in a vacuum, it's nice to get 1 point from the #2 team, but we absolutely needed the 3 points, and anything less is failure. Hertha even shit the bed, giving us a chance to overtake them before the Winter Break, but nope. I am just so scared about what will happen vs Bremen. Because Bremen will almost 100% score once. And if they score first, things just go downhill in our team. So i pray for the best ye i was writing the second last playday or so how its only a couple points till europa league. But after the Berlin game i would be happy if they finish on a single digit place. Much more realistic is barely not going down in 2. League. I doubt Reus can work enough wonders to boost us into international business Edit2: I just hope Zorc and Watze have enough sense to not go into huge debts again to keep buying players even though we dont have the money. Then rather sell people like Reus and Gündogan. I dont want this club to carsh and burn like it almost did some years ago
I think the problem is that the organization is too scared. They look at where they were and think, "We can't blow that kind of money on players".
The problem is that we didn't make any true high-profile signings over the last two years. We picked up a lot of potential in Immobile, Sokratis, Aubameyang, Mkhi, Durm, Ginter, Ramos, Kagawa (again), and Dong Won Ji. However, several of these transfers have been complete busts.
I don't know exactly what the books look like, but I do know we're quickly on our way to getting rid of all of our debt and that we have a surging revenue stream. We should be able to make some big-name signings (and rely on a quality youth system) instead of just sticking to a bunch of foreign potential. It's also hurting us with players like Hummels, Reus, and Gundogan. Why would these top-tier players stay if they see that we're not willing to sign at least a big name here and there that will help us stay perpetually competitive in Europe?
As for the Bremen game, it's an established fact that BVB is worse than a bunch of high schoolers when they possess the ball. They are absolutely 100% incompetent at breaking down a defense, creating chances, and converting them. Combine this with the fact that our defense is pretty much the worst in the league (I think it's maybe 3rd or 4th worst at the moment), and it makes sense that BVB has a better chance of beating good teams and should be rightly considered the underdog going against a lower quality team that can just park the bus.
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On December 18 2014 06:10 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 06:00 BlackCompany wrote:On December 18 2014 05:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 18 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:
So 2:2. Thats more what i could have asked for before the match considering the standings and all that stuff.
But now i can only see the incompetence in BVBs defense and 2 badly needed points lost. Another disapooonting evening..oh well i am used to it.. Yup. Continued disappointment from Dortmund. The only positive was Immobile's performance. Everything else was fucking pathetic. This defense is ten different kinds of absolutely awful. Words really cannot express how shitty it is. The offense is also still pathetically inefficient. BVB should've gotten a good 5 goals out of that game but they didn't. And I continue to question Klopp's decisions. Why the fuck would you leave Aubameyang and Grosskreutz on the field for the entire game? Yea, if you look at it in a vacuum, it's nice to get 1 point from the #2 team, but we absolutely needed the 3 points, and anything less is failure. Hertha even shit the bed, giving us a chance to overtake them before the Winter Break, but nope. I am just so scared about what will happen vs Bremen. Because Bremen will almost 100% score once. And if they score first, things just go downhill in our team. So i pray for the best ye i was writing the second last playday or so how its only a couple points till europa league. But after the Berlin game i would be happy if they finish on a single digit place. Much more realistic is barely not going down in 2. League. I doubt Reus can work enough wonders to boost us into international business Edit2: I just hope Zorc and Watze have enough sense to not go into huge debts again to keep buying players even though we dont have the money. Then rather sell people like Reus and Gündogan. I dont want this club to carsh and burn like it almost did some years ago I think the problem is that the organization is too scared. They look at where they were and think, "We can't blow that kind of money on players". The problem is that we didn't make any true high-profile signings over the last two years. We picked up a lot of potential in Immobile, Sokratis, Aubameyang, Mhki, Durm, Ginter, Ramos, Kagawa (again), and Dong Won Ji. However, several of these transfers have been complete busts. I don't know exactly what the books look like, but I do know we're quickly on our way to getting rid of all of our debt and that we have a surging revenue stream. We should be able to make some big-name signings (and rely on a quality youth system) instead of just sticking to a bunch of foreign potential. It's also hurting us with players like Hummels, Reus, and Gundogan. Why would these top-tier players stay if they see that we're not willing to sign at least a big name here and there that will help us stay perpetually competitive in Europe? As for the Bremen game, it's an established fact that BVB is worse than a bunch of high schoolers when they possess the ball. They are absolutely 100% incompetent at breaking down a defense, creating chances, and converting them. Combine this with the fact that our defense is pretty much the worst in the league (I think it's maybe 3rd or 4th worst at the moment), and it makes sense that BVB has a better chance of beating good teams and should be rightly considered the underdog going against a lower quality team that can just park the bus.
That might have been true for the last 2 seasons, and you are right. We are (almost?) without debts and that is just awesome. But without money from CL, you just cant buy big names. You cant pay them. Its easily 20+ millions missing (we made like 40-50 in the season we went to the finals). And thats something you cant compensate. Oh and i dont think Reus will stay at all if we finish like 13th. And some others might express their will to go aswell.
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On December 18 2014 06:10 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 06:00 BlackCompany wrote:On December 18 2014 05:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 18 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:
So 2:2. Thats more what i could have asked for before the match considering the standings and all that stuff.
But now i can only see the incompetence in BVBs defense and 2 badly needed points lost. Another disapooonting evening..oh well i am used to it.. Yup. Continued disappointment from Dortmund. The only positive was Immobile's performance. Everything else was fucking pathetic. This defense is ten different kinds of absolutely awful. Words really cannot express how shitty it is. The offense is also still pathetically inefficient. BVB should've gotten a good 5 goals out of that game but they didn't. And I continue to question Klopp's decisions. Why the fuck would you leave Aubameyang and Grosskreutz on the field for the entire game? Yea, if you look at it in a vacuum, it's nice to get 1 point from the #2 team, but we absolutely needed the 3 points, and anything less is failure. Hertha even shit the bed, giving us a chance to overtake them before the Winter Break, but nope. I am just so scared about what will happen vs Bremen. Because Bremen will almost 100% score once. And if they score first, things just go downhill in our team. So i pray for the best ye i was writing the second last playday or so how its only a couple points till europa league. But after the Berlin game i would be happy if they finish on a single digit place. Much more realistic is barely not going down in 2. League. I doubt Reus can work enough wonders to boost us into international business Edit2: I just hope Zorc and Watze have enough sense to not go into huge debts again to keep buying players even though we dont have the money. Then rather sell people like Reus and Gündogan. I dont want this club to carsh and burn like it almost did some years ago I think the problem is that the organization is too scared. They look at where they were and think, "We can't blow that kind of money on players". The problem is that we didn't make any true high-profile signings over the last two years. We picked up a lot of potential in Immobile, Sokratis, Aubameyang, Mhki, Durm, Ginter, Ramos, Kagawa (again), and Dong Won Ji. However, several of these transfers have been complete busts. I don't know exactly what the books look like, but I do know we're quickly on our way to getting rid of all of our debt and that we have a surging revenue stream. We should be able to make some big-name signings (and rely on a quality youth system) instead of just sticking to a bunch of foreign potential. It's also hurting us with players like Hummels, Reus, and Gundogan. Why would these top-tier players stay if they see that we're not willing to sign at least a big name here and there that will help us stay perpetually competitive in Europe? As for the Bremen game, it's an established fact that BVB is worse than a bunch of high schoolers when they possess the ball. They are absolutely 100% incompetent at breaking down a defense, creating chances, and converting them. Combine this with the fact that our defense is pretty much the worst in the league (I think it's maybe 3rd or 4th worst at the moment), and it makes sense that BVB has a better chance of beating good teams and should be rightly considered the underdog going against a lower quality team that can just park the bus.
Watzke announced that we're out of debts a half a month ago at the financial report thingie.
Regarding the Bremen game it's already over. Junuzovic scored from a free kick two or three weeks in a row now. That's enough to beat us. (FUCK THAT SHIT WE'LL FIGHT!)
As always my opinion of Sokratis differs from yours. If we was there and tackled de Bruyne twice today we might've had a calm evening because he might have lost his motivation. The only top player I somewhat expect to stay is Hummels. No matter what our management says how hard they try I assume that Reus is gone until we hear of a contract extension. That's why I want to buy a replacement for him during the winter.
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On December 18 2014 06:14 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 06:10 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 18 2014 06:00 BlackCompany wrote:On December 18 2014 05:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 18 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:
So 2:2. Thats more what i could have asked for before the match considering the standings and all that stuff.
But now i can only see the incompetence in BVBs defense and 2 badly needed points lost. Another disapooonting evening..oh well i am used to it.. Yup. Continued disappointment from Dortmund. The only positive was Immobile's performance. Everything else was fucking pathetic. This defense is ten different kinds of absolutely awful. Words really cannot express how shitty it is. The offense is also still pathetically inefficient. BVB should've gotten a good 5 goals out of that game but they didn't. And I continue to question Klopp's decisions. Why the fuck would you leave Aubameyang and Grosskreutz on the field for the entire game? Yea, if you look at it in a vacuum, it's nice to get 1 point from the #2 team, but we absolutely needed the 3 points, and anything less is failure. Hertha even shit the bed, giving us a chance to overtake them before the Winter Break, but nope. I am just so scared about what will happen vs Bremen. Because Bremen will almost 100% score once. And if they score first, things just go downhill in our team. So i pray for the best ye i was writing the second last playday or so how its only a couple points till europa league. But after the Berlin game i would be happy if they finish on a single digit place. Much more realistic is barely not going down in 2. League. I doubt Reus can work enough wonders to boost us into international business Edit2: I just hope Zorc and Watze have enough sense to not go into huge debts again to keep buying players even though we dont have the money. Then rather sell people like Reus and Gündogan. I dont want this club to carsh and burn like it almost did some years ago I think the problem is that the organization is too scared. They look at where they were and think, "We can't blow that kind of money on players". The problem is that we didn't make any true high-profile signings over the last two years. We picked up a lot of potential in Immobile, Sokratis, Aubameyang, Mhki, Durm, Ginter, Ramos, Kagawa (again), and Dong Won Ji. However, several of these transfers have been complete busts. I don't know exactly what the books look like, but I do know we're quickly on our way to getting rid of all of our debt and that we have a surging revenue stream. We should be able to make some big-name signings (and rely on a quality youth system) instead of just sticking to a bunch of foreign potential. It's also hurting us with players like Hummels, Reus, and Gundogan. Why would these top-tier players stay if they see that we're not willing to sign at least a big name here and there that will help us stay perpetually competitive in Europe? As for the Bremen game, it's an established fact that BVB is worse than a bunch of high schoolers when they possess the ball. They are absolutely 100% incompetent at breaking down a defense, creating chances, and converting them. Combine this with the fact that our defense is pretty much the worst in the league (I think it's maybe 3rd or 4th worst at the moment), and it makes sense that BVB has a better chance of beating good teams and should be rightly considered the underdog going against a lower quality team that can just park the bus. That might have been true for the last 2 seasons, and you are right. We are (almost?) without debts and that is just awesome. But without money from CL, you just cant buy big names. You cant pay them. Its easily 20+ millions missing (we made like 40-50 in the season we went to the finals). And thats something you cant compensate. Oh and i dont think Reus will stay at all if we finish like 13th. And some others might express their will to go aswell.
If we finish out of an EL spot, then it's almost guaranteed that we'll lose Gundogan, Reus, and Hummels, at which point the club is pretty much sunk and will be back to the relative mediocrity of the Bundesliga pack (Bayern + everyone else, or "Bayern's feeder league").
As for the standings, the highest possible position we can get now for the Winter Break is 12th; we would need Hertha, Mainz and HSV to lose. Stuttgart faces Paderborn, so one of them will move up to 19+ points no matter what. This is another thing that infuriates me; for BVB to jump several positions over the past couple weeks, they have needed a large number of other results to go their way, and they ALL HAVE. If BVB had been able to take the win from Hertha and VfL, they'd be in 10th now, and in position to jump to 7th before the Winter Break! And that's after the horrible start!
FUCK! Think about if we'd just had two results go our way? Looking at a possible 7th place after our horrible Oct-Nov?
As always my opinion of Sokratis differs from yours. If we was there and tackled de Bruyne twice today we might've had a calm evening because he might have lost his motivation. The only top player I somewhat expect to stay is Hummels. No matter what our management says how hard they try I assume that Reus is gone until we hear of a contract extension. That's why I want to buy a replacement for him during the winter.
I've softened on my opinion of Sokratis. He makes some poor positional decisions, but overall, he's pretty reliable, and MUCH more reliable that Subotic at this point. I absolutely cannot wait to get him back.
I'm firmly convinced that Reus will leave unless we 1) make a miracle comeback and get into the CL and 2) make some big name signings to show him that we're fuckin' serious about competing long-term.
What we absolutely need in the Winter is 1) a good CB and 2) a good CAM/LW. We don't have the depth to compensate for Reus's injury at the moment and when you have to put Grosskreutz in the starting lineup on the left, you know you're sitting pretty thin.
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Stuttgart got Stevens to rescue them, you should've counted on at least them to get results 
edit: Feyenoord equalizing against psv in the second last minute of the game, lol! Very entertaining game
hahahaha, psv in the lead again..
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On December 18 2014 06:22 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 06:14 BlackCompany wrote:On December 18 2014 06:10 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 18 2014 06:00 BlackCompany wrote:On December 18 2014 05:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 18 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:
So 2:2. Thats more what i could have asked for before the match considering the standings and all that stuff.
But now i can only see the incompetence in BVBs defense and 2 badly needed points lost. Another disapooonting evening..oh well i am used to it.. Yup. Continued disappointment from Dortmund. The only positive was Immobile's performance. Everything else was fucking pathetic. This defense is ten different kinds of absolutely awful. Words really cannot express how shitty it is. The offense is also still pathetically inefficient. BVB should've gotten a good 5 goals out of that game but they didn't. And I continue to question Klopp's decisions. Why the fuck would you leave Aubameyang and Grosskreutz on the field for the entire game? Yea, if you look at it in a vacuum, it's nice to get 1 point from the #2 team, but we absolutely needed the 3 points, and anything less is failure. Hertha even shit the bed, giving us a chance to overtake them before the Winter Break, but nope. I am just so scared about what will happen vs Bremen. Because Bremen will almost 100% score once. And if they score first, things just go downhill in our team. So i pray for the best ye i was writing the second last playday or so how its only a couple points till europa league. But after the Berlin game i would be happy if they finish on a single digit place. Much more realistic is barely not going down in 2. League. I doubt Reus can work enough wonders to boost us into international business Edit2: I just hope Zorc and Watze have enough sense to not go into huge debts again to keep buying players even though we dont have the money. Then rather sell people like Reus and Gündogan. I dont want this club to carsh and burn like it almost did some years ago I think the problem is that the organization is too scared. They look at where they were and think, "We can't blow that kind of money on players". The problem is that we didn't make any true high-profile signings over the last two years. We picked up a lot of potential in Immobile, Sokratis, Aubameyang, Mhki, Durm, Ginter, Ramos, Kagawa (again), and Dong Won Ji. However, several of these transfers have been complete busts. I don't know exactly what the books look like, but I do know we're quickly on our way to getting rid of all of our debt and that we have a surging revenue stream. We should be able to make some big-name signings (and rely on a quality youth system) instead of just sticking to a bunch of foreign potential. It's also hurting us with players like Hummels, Reus, and Gundogan. Why would these top-tier players stay if they see that we're not willing to sign at least a big name here and there that will help us stay perpetually competitive in Europe? As for the Bremen game, it's an established fact that BVB is worse than a bunch of high schoolers when they possess the ball. They are absolutely 100% incompetent at breaking down a defense, creating chances, and converting them. Combine this with the fact that our defense is pretty much the worst in the league (I think it's maybe 3rd or 4th worst at the moment), and it makes sense that BVB has a better chance of beating good teams and should be rightly considered the underdog going against a lower quality team that can just park the bus. That might have been true for the last 2 seasons, and you are right. We are (almost?) without debts and that is just awesome. But without money from CL, you just cant buy big names. You cant pay them. Its easily 20+ millions missing (we made like 40-50 in the season we went to the finals). And thats something you cant compensate. Oh and i dont think Reus will stay at all if we finish like 13th. And some others might express their will to go aswell. If we finish out of an EL spot, then it's almost guaranteed that we'll lose Gundogan, Reus, and Hummels, at which point the club is pretty much sunk and will be back to the relative mediocrity of the Bundesliga pack (Bayern + everyone else, or "Bayern's feeder league"). As for the standings, the highest possible position we can get now for the Winter Break is 12th; we would need Hertha, Mainz and HSV to lose. Stuttgart faces Paderborn, so one of them will move up to 19+ points no matter what. This is another thing that infuriates me; for BVB to jump several positions over the past couple weeks, they have needed a large number of other results to go their way, and they ALL HAVE. If BVB had been able to take the win from Hertha and VfL, they'd be in 10th now, and in position to jump to 7th before the Winter Break! And that's after the horrible start! FUCK! Think about if we'd just had two results go our way? Looking at a possible 7th place after our horrible Oct-Nov? Show nested quote +As always my opinion of Sokratis differs from yours. If we was there and tackled de Bruyne twice today we might've had a calm evening because he might have lost his motivation. The only top player I somewhat expect to stay is Hummels. No matter what our management says how hard they try I assume that Reus is gone until we hear of a contract extension. That's why I want to buy a replacement for him during the winter. I've softened on my opinion of Sokratis. He makes some poor positional decisions, but overall, he's pretty reliable, and MUCH more reliable that Subotic at this point. I absolutely cannot wait to get him back. I'm firmly convinced that Reus will leave unless we 1) make a miracle comeback and get into the CL and 2) make some big name signings to show him that we're fuckin' serious about competing long-term. What we absolutely need in the Winter is 1) a good CB and 2) a good CAM/LW. We don't have the depth to compensate for Reus's injury at the moment and when you have to put Grosskreutz in the starting lineup on the left, you know you're sitting pretty thin.
I dont even want to think about ending the half-season on place 7-10
It hurts too much T_T
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On December 18 2014 06:22 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 06:14 BlackCompany wrote:On December 18 2014 06:10 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 18 2014 06:00 BlackCompany wrote:On December 18 2014 05:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 18 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:
So 2:2. Thats more what i could have asked for before the match considering the standings and all that stuff.
But now i can only see the incompetence in BVBs defense and 2 badly needed points lost. Another disapooonting evening..oh well i am used to it.. Yup. Continued disappointment from Dortmund. The only positive was Immobile's performance. Everything else was fucking pathetic. This defense is ten different kinds of absolutely awful. Words really cannot express how shitty it is. The offense is also still pathetically inefficient. BVB should've gotten a good 5 goals out of that game but they didn't. And I continue to question Klopp's decisions. Why the fuck would you leave Aubameyang and Grosskreutz on the field for the entire game? Yea, if you look at it in a vacuum, it's nice to get 1 point from the #2 team, but we absolutely needed the 3 points, and anything less is failure. Hertha even shit the bed, giving us a chance to overtake them before the Winter Break, but nope. I am just so scared about what will happen vs Bremen. Because Bremen will almost 100% score once. And if they score first, things just go downhill in our team. So i pray for the best ye i was writing the second last playday or so how its only a couple points till europa league. But after the Berlin game i would be happy if they finish on a single digit place. Much more realistic is barely not going down in 2. League. I doubt Reus can work enough wonders to boost us into international business Edit2: I just hope Zorc and Watze have enough sense to not go into huge debts again to keep buying players even though we dont have the money. Then rather sell people like Reus and Gündogan. I dont want this club to carsh and burn like it almost did some years ago I think the problem is that the organization is too scared. They look at where they were and think, "We can't blow that kind of money on players". The problem is that we didn't make any true high-profile signings over the last two years. We picked up a lot of potential in Immobile, Sokratis, Aubameyang, Mhki, Durm, Ginter, Ramos, Kagawa (again), and Dong Won Ji. However, several of these transfers have been complete busts. I don't know exactly what the books look like, but I do know we're quickly on our way to getting rid of all of our debt and that we have a surging revenue stream. We should be able to make some big-name signings (and rely on a quality youth system) instead of just sticking to a bunch of foreign potential. It's also hurting us with players like Hummels, Reus, and Gundogan. Why would these top-tier players stay if they see that we're not willing to sign at least a big name here and there that will help us stay perpetually competitive in Europe? As for the Bremen game, it's an established fact that BVB is worse than a bunch of high schoolers when they possess the ball. They are absolutely 100% incompetent at breaking down a defense, creating chances, and converting them. Combine this with the fact that our defense is pretty much the worst in the league (I think it's maybe 3rd or 4th worst at the moment), and it makes sense that BVB has a better chance of beating good teams and should be rightly considered the underdog going against a lower quality team that can just park the bus. That might have been true for the last 2 seasons, and you are right. We are (almost?) without debts and that is just awesome. But without money from CL, you just cant buy big names. You cant pay them. Its easily 20+ millions missing (we made like 40-50 in the season we went to the finals). And thats something you cant compensate. Oh and i dont think Reus will stay at all if we finish like 13th. And some others might express their will to go aswell. If we finish out of an EL spot, then it's almost guaranteed that we'll lose Gundogan, Reus, and Hummels, at which point the club is pretty much sunk and will be back to the relative mediocrity of the Bundesliga pack (Bayern + everyone else, or "Bayern's feeder league"). As for the standings, the highest possible position we can get now for the Winter Break is 12th; we would need Hertha, Mainz and HSV to lose. Stuttgart faces Paderborn, so one of them will move up to 19+ points no matter what. This is another thing that infuriates me; for BVB to jump several positions over the past couple weeks, they have needed a large number of other results to go their way, and they ALL HAVE. If BVB had been able to take the win from Hertha and VfL, they'd be in 10th now, and in position to jump to 7th before the Winter Break! And that's after the horrible start! FUCK! Think about if we'd just had two results go our way? Looking at a possible 7th place after our horrible Oct-Nov? Show nested quote +As always my opinion of Sokratis differs from yours. If we was there and tackled de Bruyne twice today we might've had a calm evening because he might have lost his motivation. The only top player I somewhat expect to stay is Hummels. No matter what our management says how hard they try I assume that Reus is gone until we hear of a contract extension. That's why I want to buy a replacement for him during the winter. I've softened on my opinion of Sokratis. He makes so poor positional decisions, but overall, he's pretty reliable, and MUCH more reliable that Subotic at this point. I absolutely cannot wait to get him back. I'm firmly convinced that Reus will leave unless we 1) make a miracle comeback and get into the CL and 2) make some big name signings to show him that we're fuckin' serious about competing long-term. What we absolutely need in the Winter is 1) a good CB and 2) a good CAM/LW. We're don't have the depth to compensate for Reus's injury at the moment and when you have to put Grosskreutz in the starting lineup in the attacking midfield, you know you're sitting pretty thin.
I think Gündogan is unsellable at this point. At least at a acceptable price, his back is just too big of a question mark long term.
I wouldnt call Dortmund out too early 12 points behind CL is not impossible with a little bit of luck.
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On December 18 2014 06:44 Micro_Jackson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 06:22 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 18 2014 06:14 BlackCompany wrote:On December 18 2014 06:10 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 18 2014 06:00 BlackCompany wrote:On December 18 2014 05:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 18 2014 05:53 BlackCompany wrote:
So 2:2. Thats more what i could have asked for before the match considering the standings and all that stuff.
But now i can only see the incompetence in BVBs defense and 2 badly needed points lost. Another disapooonting evening..oh well i am used to it.. Yup. Continued disappointment from Dortmund. The only positive was Immobile's performance. Everything else was fucking pathetic. This defense is ten different kinds of absolutely awful. Words really cannot express how shitty it is. The offense is also still pathetically inefficient. BVB should've gotten a good 5 goals out of that game but they didn't. And I continue to question Klopp's decisions. Why the fuck would you leave Aubameyang and Grosskreutz on the field for the entire game? Yea, if you look at it in a vacuum, it's nice to get 1 point from the #2 team, but we absolutely needed the 3 points, and anything less is failure. Hertha even shit the bed, giving us a chance to overtake them before the Winter Break, but nope. I am just so scared about what will happen vs Bremen. Because Bremen will almost 100% score once. And if they score first, things just go downhill in our team. So i pray for the best ye i was writing the second last playday or so how its only a couple points till europa league. But after the Berlin game i would be happy if they finish on a single digit place. Much more realistic is barely not going down in 2. League. I doubt Reus can work enough wonders to boost us into international business Edit2: I just hope Zorc and Watze have enough sense to not go into huge debts again to keep buying players even though we dont have the money. Then rather sell people like Reus and Gündogan. I dont want this club to carsh and burn like it almost did some years ago I think the problem is that the organization is too scared. They look at where they were and think, "We can't blow that kind of money on players". The problem is that we didn't make any true high-profile signings over the last two years. We picked up a lot of potential in Immobile, Sokratis, Aubameyang, Mhki, Durm, Ginter, Ramos, Kagawa (again), and Dong Won Ji. However, several of these transfers have been complete busts. I don't know exactly what the books look like, but I do know we're quickly on our way to getting rid of all of our debt and that we have a surging revenue stream. We should be able to make some big-name signings (and rely on a quality youth system) instead of just sticking to a bunch of foreign potential. It's also hurting us with players like Hummels, Reus, and Gundogan. Why would these top-tier players stay if they see that we're not willing to sign at least a big name here and there that will help us stay perpetually competitive in Europe? As for the Bremen game, it's an established fact that BVB is worse than a bunch of high schoolers when they possess the ball. They are absolutely 100% incompetent at breaking down a defense, creating chances, and converting them. Combine this with the fact that our defense is pretty much the worst in the league (I think it's maybe 3rd or 4th worst at the moment), and it makes sense that BVB has a better chance of beating good teams and should be rightly considered the underdog going against a lower quality team that can just park the bus. That might have been true for the last 2 seasons, and you are right. We are (almost?) without debts and that is just awesome. But without money from CL, you just cant buy big names. You cant pay them. Its easily 20+ millions missing (we made like 40-50 in the season we went to the finals). And thats something you cant compensate. Oh and i dont think Reus will stay at all if we finish like 13th. And some others might express their will to go aswell. If we finish out of an EL spot, then it's almost guaranteed that we'll lose Gundogan, Reus, and Hummels, at which point the club is pretty much sunk and will be back to the relative mediocrity of the Bundesliga pack (Bayern + everyone else, or "Bayern's feeder league"). As for the standings, the highest possible position we can get now for the Winter Break is 12th; we would need Hertha, Mainz and HSV to lose. Stuttgart faces Paderborn, so one of them will move up to 19+ points no matter what. This is another thing that infuriates me; for BVB to jump several positions over the past couple weeks, they have needed a large number of other results to go their way, and they ALL HAVE. If BVB had been able to take the win from Hertha and VfL, they'd be in 10th now, and in position to jump to 7th before the Winter Break! And that's after the horrible start! FUCK! Think about if we'd just had two results go our way? Looking at a possible 7th place after our horrible Oct-Nov? As always my opinion of Sokratis differs from yours. If we was there and tackled de Bruyne twice today we might've had a calm evening because he might have lost his motivation. The only top player I somewhat expect to stay is Hummels. No matter what our management says how hard they try I assume that Reus is gone until we hear of a contract extension. That's why I want to buy a replacement for him during the winter. I've softened on my opinion of Sokratis. He makes so poor positional decisions, but overall, he's pretty reliable, and MUCH more reliable that Subotic at this point. I absolutely cannot wait to get him back. I'm firmly convinced that Reus will leave unless we 1) make a miracle comeback and get into the CL and 2) make some big name signings to show him that we're fuckin' serious about competing long-term. What we absolutely need in the Winter is 1) a good CB and 2) a good CAM/LW. We're don't have the depth to compensate for Reus's injury at the moment and when you have to put Grosskreutz in the starting lineup in the attacking midfield, you know you're sitting pretty thin. I think Gündogan is unsellable at this point. At least at a acceptable price, his back is just too big of a question mark long term. I wouldnt call Dortmund out too early 12 points behind CL is not impossible with a little bit of luck.
We've been 7/8/9/12 points behind CL for weeks. At this point it's we're not any more special than Hamburg or Bremen.
I heard that Gündogan's injury is something that can't just come back after being treated and in my opinion every sane manager would "risk" buying him if he stays fit the next 6 months. The operation fixed it and he was only out for that long because it was a risky operation and they tried to heal it every other possible way before "gambling" with his health.
Pool vs Chelsea Capital One Cup hype : P
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