2014 - 2015 Football Thread - Page 354

Honestly Utd attack isn't that good. No strikers in form, Falcao injured. Januzaj shell of the player he was last year, no wing play. Without Di Maria, there wouldn't be any goals. A positive is that Luke Shaw can actually defend, looks to be worth the hype. Blind is a good player but he can only do very limited things, he's not a great tackler or marker but can turn with the ball and distribute from the back which is more than what the other midfielders can do. I know he was playing out of position vs. Palace but compared to someone like Carrick, it was obvious Carrick is still the far better option. Really glad he's back now, so underappreciated.

On November 10 2014 15:46 Pantagruel wrote:
The vast majority of that tottenham squad has been successful elsewhere. You can bay about how terrible they are but I think it's not the correct assessment. I think to some degree the coaching has been poor, but largely it's the management who has hampered the football of that team time and time again. I guess we agree in a way then, because it all boils down to Levy.

I don't think the squad is top 4 material, but it's better then what has been shown, and Pochettino has not covered himself in glory here. You think the players themselves are responsible. It could be. Regardless, there is only 1 constant, the top. Players have come and gone, managers have come and gone, but Levy remains. What more needs to be said?

The problem with the club is the ownership of Lewis + Teflon Dan Levy, whose expectation of top 4 on a shoestring budget is outlandish and comical.

On November 10 2014 20:31 Liquid`Drone wrote:


The past 5 seasons Tottenham has placed 4th, 5th, 4th, 6th, 5th
how are you unhappy with this? You've been the one team most consistently pushing towards top 4, without the history or the money of the top 4. For me as a Newcastle fan, Tottenham has looked like the number one inspiration for like, how well Newcastle can possibly be expected to do, in the sense that you are consistently getting to play in the EL.

(Newcastle in the same time period was: relegated, 12th, 5th, 16th, 10th.)

Basically I don't even understand what you guys are unhappy with. I understand what Arsenal fans are complaining about, because they went from winning trophies to not winning trophies. But Tottenham's past 5 seasons equates to the best 5 season span they've had since the premier league started..

(The 5 seasons before that (2008/9 - 2004/5), they had: 8th, 11th, 5th, 5th, 9th. The 5 before that, (2003/4 - 1999/2000) 14th, 10th, 9th, 12th, 10th. The 7 before that, (1998/9 - 1992/3) 11th, 14th, 10th, 8th, 7th, 15th, 8th)

Really, for you guys to complain about the leadership on the top, at this moment in time, it just makes no sense to me, especially seeing as how your net spending is very low (which I assume translates to having a reasonably healthy economy?)

On November 10 2014 23:15 sharkie wrote:
Gerrard is probably the only world class player who always stayed at his club no matter what.

On November 10 2014 23:01 city42 wrote:


-2013/14: Bale sold, despite Levy and the board repeatedly telling AVB that he wouldn't be sold at any price. A potpourri of replacements were brought in, and almost none of them seem to be players the manager actually wanted. Soldado aside, they were all young players whom Levy felt would rise in value over the next few years. After all the other sales, this transfer window ended in yet another profit. AVB sacked in December after failing to make a unit out of the players who never suited his system. Tim Sherwood replaced him on an interim basis and promptly made a fool out of himself with his behavior. Some samples include the gilet throw, shouting match with Jorge Jesus, publicly calling out individual players repeatedly while absolving himself of blame, and watching matches from the stands instead of the touchline ("Where is our manager?!" shouted the Spurs away fans at Anfield), then complaining about not being able to affect matches from the stands. Spurs immediately exit from both domestic cups, and should have lost to Dnipro in the Europa League if not for astonishingly poor refereeing. No matter, as Benfica slaughtered us in the next round.

On November 10 2014 23:15 sharkie wrote:
Yeah, selling Bale for that price was a genius move. No way Bale would have stayed at Spurs lol.

Gerrard is probably the only world class player who always stayed at his club no matter what.

On November 10 2014 23:13 Pandemona wrote:
An investment that still could of fucked up though city. You were "always" going to lose Bale unless you started winning titles, getting justs champions league football would not be enough for him. Without him you would not of got top 4 or even did well in that season of the champions league.
The year you made it was at the expense of Man City who were just going to throw money at their team until they overtook you. Then you had Liverpool on top of them who were "rebuilding". Finishing 6th is an achievement now in this league with the likes of Chelsea Man City Arsenal Yanited Liverpool trying to fit into the top 4 with their huge budgets. Even Liverpool have a decent budget, it is just Rodgers has bought more shite than Pochettino has lol.

On November 10 2014 23:26 Greg_J wrote:
I think you are a little harsh on Tim Sherwood. It seemed unlikely that he would remain the manager in the long term and I don't think he did to bad in the time he was there. You have to remember he wasn’t a professional manager before he took the job and he was always likely to be a bit of wild card. Sitting in the stands for a higher view point is sometimes the best way of seeing what’s going on and something a lot of managers do regardless of what they fans want to see. It also seems to me that a lack of desire is half the problem at Spurs so insulting a previous manager for having a go at the player when they clearly not trying enough seems to me a bit ridiculous. If anything half the Spurs current squad needs a kick up the backside. But he was only a short term replacement anyway and in my eyes he did a pretty good job for you.

On November 10 2014 23:47 sharkie wrote:


Yes of course Totti as well.
He is world class in every book.

Totti and Gerrard - two players I respect a lot.