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BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
September 20 2014 21:16 GMT
#4441
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 21:26:05
September 20 2014 21:23 GMT
#4442
http://gfycat.com/DistantAngelicIriomotecat#

I was watching the game live. Literally the entire Hamburg team surrounded the ref after that to try and get Neuer sent off. Btw this was in the 90th minute and near the halfway line lol
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
September 20 2014 21:52 GMT
#4443
On September 21 2014 06:23 Ferrose wrote:
http://gfycat.com/DistantAngelicIriomotecat#

I was watching the game live. Literally the entire Hamburg team surrounded the ref after that to try and get Neuer sent off. Btw this was in the 90th minute and near the halfway line lol


And they were wrong. The reason the GK almost always gets a red card is that he usually denys a clear chance of scoring if he touches the ball outside the box with his hands. In this case he counts like every other player of you make a handball midfield, so a yellow card was the right decision. And a very smart play if it was intentional.



SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 22:31:07
September 20 2014 22:02 GMT
#4444
It's all about wether you consider a shot from the middle of the field with no goalkeeper a clear chance of goal.

It's not exactly the same as any other handball, since if you shoot from that distance there is ussually a keeper present at the goal, in which case it's obviously not a clear opportunity. You can argue that it's still not an obvious goal scoring opportunity, which is subjective enough, but definatelly not that it is the same as any other players handling the ball midfield.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 20 2014 22:17 GMT
#4445
On September 21 2014 06:52 Micro_Jackson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 06:23 Ferrose wrote:
http://gfycat.com/DistantAngelicIriomotecat#

I was watching the game live. Literally the entire Hamburg team surrounded the ref after that to try and get Neuer sent off. Btw this was in the 90th minute and near the halfway line lol


And they were wrong. The reason the GK almost always gets a red card is that he usually denys a clear chance of scoring if he touches the ball outside the box with his hands. In this case he counts like every other player of you make a handball midfield, so a yellow card was the right decision. And a very smart play if it was intentional.





A player is sent off, however, if he prevents a goal or an obvious goalscoring
opportunity by deliberately handling the ball. This punishment arises not from
the act of the player deliberately handling the ball but from the unacceptable
and unfair intervention that prevented a goal being scored


Is the ruling. To me it was, discipline. However wtf is Neuer even doing out there. Reason i will never consider him best keeper in the world.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
September 20 2014 22:30 GMT
#4446
Neuer was very entertaining in Hamburg
often outside the box but only the last minute was dangerous. It remembers me to ger vs algeria at wc2014.

I noticed that other GK in bundesliga are doing the same as neuer right now, they are often trying to come outside the box but not as great/risky as neuer.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18637 Posts
September 20 2014 22:31 GMT
#4447
Yeah same pande.

Neuer is not really sane I think. He has cost his teams plenty of points with that however
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
September 20 2014 22:40 GMT
#4448
On September 21 2014 07:31 sharkie wrote:
Yeah same pande.

Neuer is not really sane I think. He has cost his teams plenty of points with that however

He said several times that wont change his playstyle and that he always watches/analyzes his games (only games where he was outside the box) if it was good or bad. About performance at goal he mostly watches handball.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
September 20 2014 23:05 GMT
#4449
dont worry pool fans ballotelli will save you
ace hwaiting!!
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 23:18:48
September 20 2014 23:11 GMT
#4450
On September 21 2014 07:17 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2014 06:52 Micro_Jackson wrote:
On September 21 2014 06:23 Ferrose wrote:
http://gfycat.com/DistantAngelicIriomotecat#

I was watching the game live. Literally the entire Hamburg team surrounded the ref after that to try and get Neuer sent off. Btw this was in the 90th minute and near the halfway line lol


And they were wrong. The reason the GK almost always gets a red card is that he usually denys a clear chance of scoring if he touches the ball outside the box with his hands. In this case he counts like every other player of you make a handball midfield, so a yellow card was the right decision. And a very smart play if it was intentional.





Show nested quote +
A player is sent off, however, if he prevents a goal or an obvious goalscoring
opportunity by deliberately handling the ball. This punishment arises not from
the act of the player deliberately handling the ball but from the unacceptable
and unfair intervention that prevented a goal being scored


Is the ruling. To me it was, discipline. However wtf is Neuer even doing out there. Reason i will never consider him best keeper in the world.


Neuer is probably the only keeper in the world that you can rely on to play that sweeper role, and I don't ever remember him costing his team in a big game with his sweeper play. I mean really, it was absolutely crucial in the World Cup; if it wasn't for him, several teams would've been able to take advantage of the fact that we didn't have a very dependable back 4 for most of the tournament. Not only that, but he's easily also the best keeper in the world when it comes to just playing the traditional position and blocking shots/controlling the box.

Cool goal indeed :D 83 meters! new Bundesliga record. Paderborn is top of the league at the moment and I thought theyre not going to win a single game.

And wtf is wrong with Dortmund? But as a Bayern fan iam happy of course.


BVB is still horribly wasteful up front and has a very unreliable defense. This is easily the most wasteful team I've ever seen in soccer. Probably more chances than most teams out there and yet horribly few chances actually converted.

I think the problem is that 1) there is no depth in the back 4 behind the true starters (Schmelzer-Hummels-Subotic-Pisczek), and 2) some players have turned out to be busts. Mhki has been a complete disappointment (chokes horribly any time he has a decent chance), Aubameyang has been lackluster (his speed is fantastic but he's not very creative), and Sokratis has also been a let-down at times (he's a very strong defender but he makes some really stupid choices some times, especially when it comes to positioning).

BVB's biggest problem is injuries. Their injury streak should go down in legend as far as I'm concerned due to how long these injuries have been happening. They need Gundogan, Kuba, Reus, and Hummels back very, very badly. What we're fielding right now simply isn't top-tier quality for a starting lineup. In his short stint, Immobile has looked much more creative and reliable than Aubameyang, Ramos, or Mhki when it comes to attacking, so he needs to start more often. I don't think that Sokratis, Mhki, Aubameyang, or Ramos are wastes of money by any stretch of the imagination, but I think that they should be the added depth that BVB has missed in the last few years instead of starting mainstays.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
September 20 2014 23:13 GMT
#4451
On September 21 2014 07:31 sharkie wrote:
Yeah same pande.

Neuer is not really sane I think. He has cost his teams plenty of points with that however


Or he saves his team by not losing to Algeria.
Hagen0
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany765 Posts
September 20 2014 23:51 GMT
#4452
Neuer's forays did cost his team a few times (for instance the amazing goal by Stankovic vs Schalke). In the last couple years or so he has been consistently solid with his clearances.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
September 20 2014 23:57 GMT
#4453
This article about crazy Magath at Fulham is funny and great.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/sep/20/fulham-farewell-magath-felix-madcap
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 21 2014 00:54 GMT
#4454
He played silly vs Chelsea in Super Cup too. I know he is a good "sweeper" keeper but i don't like me keeper coming out and trying to take on outfield players lol.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
September 21 2014 03:09 GMT
#4455
Too many good games on Sunday. Man City-Chelsea, Leverkusen-Wolfsburg, Köln-Gladbach, Feyenoord-Ajax. Not enough time to watch them all

I fully expect Chelsea to win. City have looked weak this season and Chelsea's midfield have been dominating every game so far (domestically, at least). They haven't faced anyone like Yaya Toure and Fernandinho yet though so it'll be an interesting game.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-21 05:06:47
September 21 2014 05:02 GMT
#4456
Why on earth would Rogers start two players that all summer he was trying to get rid of in Borini and Lucas?

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-21 08:00:06
September 21 2014 07:56 GMT
#4457
On September 21 2014 08:51 Hagen0 wrote:
Neuer's forays did cost his team a few times (for instance the amazing goal by Stankovic vs Schalke). In the last couple years or so he has been consistently solid with his clearances.

That was the only instance that came to my mind as well and imo Stankovic was lucky to score that, I would guess he misses 9 out of 10 if he would have to repeat that. It actually was an alright clearance by Neuer that randomly fell to Stankovic.

Neuer might make an error once in a while, but how many opportunities does he prevent? And perhaps more importantly, how much does his positioning help the team? I am sure that statistically speaking his playstyle is very successful.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 21 2014 09:02 GMT
#4458
El cashico hype :D
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-21 10:25:13
September 21 2014 10:17 GMT
#4459
On September 21 2014 18:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
El cashico hype :D

Chelsea:
Players Purchased: £91,300,000
Players Sold: £75,200,000
Difference: £16,100,000

Manchester City:
Players Purchased: £51,500,000
Players Sold: £27,500,000
Difference: £24,000,000

Manchester United:
Players Purchased: £145,500,000
Players Sold: £32,300,000
Difference: £113,200,000

Arsenal:
Players Purchased: £82,000,000
Players Sold: £28,200,000
Difference: £53,800,000


Mate, I don't know what you are talking about with this cashico business. All I see are two blue teams that are trying to spend rationally in the transfer market and two red teams that throw money around recklessly without any results.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
September 21 2014 10:25 GMT
#4460
My memory goes back further than the last transfer period
But does it djent?
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