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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
March 15 2014 03:50 GMT
#4381
On March 15 2014 10:23 DarthPunk wrote:
LOL what the fuck is Phil Jackson supposed to do?

Get paid.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 15 2014 03:53 GMT
#4382
yea Knicks don't have any moves to make, best Phil can do is hope for a 7th/8th seed for the next 3 years.
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
March 15 2014 04:12 GMT
#4383
The problem for Knicks fans is that there's no way of punishing the owner for his bad decisions. Knicks valued at #1 franchise according to Forbes most recent valuation, so Dolan knows how to increase his value of the team, but does not matter if they win or lose because of New York City. Ticket prices will always go up because of this (though the malaise of the Thomas years did put a slight dent into that with attendance being low).

Protests do not work because Dolan loves the news, bad news is still news on the back pages of the Sports section.
Boycotts at MSG do not work because corporate tickets/tourists snap up tickets to watch things at MSG.
Boycotting Cablevision/MSG doesn't work because of telecom companies and local monopolies. The only way of not paying for the channel is to not get cable from any other provider (and I think that most people are not going to cut the cord).

In short, the only way of saving the Knicks is to not pay any attention to the Knicks, or have the NBA commissioner's office intervene with his hires, such as Donnie Walsh.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
March 15 2014 04:50 GMT
#4384
The Lakers Spurs game was just terribly sad. At first it's not surprising to see the Spurs annihilate this Lakers team but then you realize Parker/Duncan played 14 minutes and that it was scrubs like Cory Joseph and Jeff Ayres and Aaron Baynes and Matt Bonner who destroyed the Lakers. How the hell does Dantoni still have a job? I know the Lakers are tanking at this point but these performances are just woeful. He should be driven into the desert somewhere and sacked and told to walk back to civilization.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 15 2014 04:56 GMT
#4385
On March 15 2014 13:50 Pantagruel wrote:
The Lakers Spurs game was just terribly sad. At first it's not surprising to see the Spurs annihilate this Lakers team but then you realize Parker/Duncan played 14 minutes and that it was scrubs like Cory Joseph and Jeff Ayres and Aaron Baynes and Matt Bonner who destroyed the Lakers. How the hell does Dantoni still have a job? I know the Lakers are tanking at this point but these performances are just woeful. He should be driven into the desert somewhere and sacked and told to walk back to civilization.


Games like the surprising win vs OKC are what help his credibility.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
March 15 2014 07:37 GMT
#4386
Guys guys..The Clippers have the best point differential in the league. March 15th, 2014.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
March 15 2014 07:39 GMT
#4387
On March 15 2014 13:50 Pantagruel wrote:
The Lakers Spurs game was just terribly sad. At first it's not surprising to see the Spurs annihilate this Lakers team but then you realize Parker/Duncan played 14 minutes and that it was scrubs like Cory Joseph and Jeff Ayres and Aaron Baynes and Matt Bonner who destroyed the Lakers. How the hell does Dantoni still have a job? I know the Lakers are tanking at this point but these performances are just woeful. He should be driven into the desert somewhere and sacked and told to walk back to civilization.


They have the same exact record as the Celtics. Brad Stevens should be with him.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
March 15 2014 08:04 GMT
#4388
On March 15 2014 13:50 Pantagruel wrote:
The Lakers Spurs game was just terribly sad. At first it's not surprising to see the Spurs annihilate this Lakers team but then you realize Parker/Duncan played 14 minutes and that it was scrubs like Cory Joseph and Jeff Ayres and Aaron Baynes and Matt Bonner who destroyed the Lakers. How the hell does Dantoni still have a job? I know the Lakers are tanking at this point but these performances are just woeful. He should be driven into the desert somewhere and sacked and told to walk back to civilization.


I'm pretty sure all of those players could start for the Lakers right now and it would be an improvement.

Besides, what do you care? You knew coming in that it was going to be a lost season. Might as well get a good draft pick.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
March 15 2014 08:14 GMT
#4389
On March 15 2014 13:50 Pantagruel wrote:
The Lakers Spurs game was just terribly sad. At first it's not surprising to see the Spurs annihilate this Lakers team but then you realize Parker/Duncan played 14 minutes and that it was scrubs like Cory Joseph and Jeff Ayres and Aaron Baynes and Matt Bonner who destroyed the Lakers. How the hell does Dantoni still have a job? I know the Lakers are tanking at this point but these performances are just woeful. He should be driven into the desert somewhere and sacked and told to walk back to civilization.



Why are you surprised when the Lakers get dumpstered with the lineup they are running. This season's Lakers are just about as bad as the 05-06 Lakers minus Kobe. It's not the coach.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 15 2014 10:31 GMT
#4390
On March 15 2014 16:39 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 13:50 Pantagruel wrote:
The Lakers Spurs game was just terribly sad. At first it's not surprising to see the Spurs annihilate this Lakers team but then you realize Parker/Duncan played 14 minutes and that it was scrubs like Cory Joseph and Jeff Ayres and Aaron Baynes and Matt Bonner who destroyed the Lakers. How the hell does Dantoni still have a job? I know the Lakers are tanking at this point but these performances are just woeful. He should be driven into the desert somewhere and sacked and told to walk back to civilization.


They have the same exact record as the Celtics. Brad Stevens should be with him.


No.

zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 10:36:01
March 15 2014 10:35 GMT
#4391
I think it's easy to like Stevens but I don't think he's gotten the best out of what he has. Celtics will have a good draft though.

edit: I hate Jeff Green.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
March 15 2014 10:51 GMT
#4392
I don't think anyone can argue that Stevens had a worse roster to work with this season than D'Antoni did. There's even room to argue that the Celtics roster has actually been better top to bottom than the Lakers roster. The Lakers roster is pretty terrible on paper, and only gets worse when you take into account all of the missed games they've had to their already low-talent team.

With that said, the Lakers were trying to make the playoffs early on and aren't really putting anything together that will last beyond this season. D'Antoni is doing whatever he can to win on any given night just to keep his job. On the other hand, the Celtics conceded this season from the outset and have been focusing on player development and implementing a system that can hopefully form the framework for the next few seasons. In that light, one could argue that Stevens has been more "successful" for his team's particular goals.
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 13:22:15
March 15 2014 13:20 GMT
#4393
The Celtics definitely did not want to win this season, so mission achieved for them.... where as with the Lakers it just kind of happened with the 2134123 injuries. I personally don't think D'antoni is a bad coach at all. I feel like the criticism he's received from Laker fans is ridiculous. Laker fans expecting some kind of miracle with Ryan Kelly, Kendall Marshall, Bazemore. Meeks, Old Pau, Farmar etc. I mean that lineup isn't going to stop a statue no matter who is coaching them. Look at how damn well they were playing earlier in the year, it was inspiring to watch. Even then, I felt they were a pretty awful team on paper but punched well above their weight for a long while, and were in the playoff hunt. They probably would've run out of steam but whatever. I can't blame any of this on D'Antoni. Plus, it will work out for the better for the Lakers anyways, they will get a high draft pick instead of being a mediocre 9th or 10th team in the loaded West.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 13:39:15
March 15 2014 13:38 GMT
#4394
On March 15 2014 19:35 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think it's easy to like Stevens but I don't think he's gotten the best out of what he has.

Well he did help Crawford look like a serviceable pointguard so the C's could get 2 more picks. All Dantoni's good for is fantasy
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 15 2014 13:41 GMT
#4395
On March 15 2014 10:23 DarthPunk wrote:
LOL what the fuck is Phil Jackson supposed to do? They have either traded or given swap rights for every first rounder until 2017

They have no second rounders until 2018

Melo, for whom they still owe a first rounder this year and the rights to swap next year, could walk for nothing in free agency and they are so far over the cap it wouldn't even give them cap space.

Raymond Felton and JR Smith have PLAYER OPTIONS in 2015-16 which means they are stuck with them for the next 3 years.

They are paying Amare Stoudemire's Knees 23 million next season.

Shump is not taking the next step and may even be getting worse due to the toxic environment.

The only bright spot on the horizon is Tim Hardaway Jr being better than expected.

Almost forgot, they traded 3 draft picks for 11 million dollars of this:

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Bargs the god.....fucking love that gif
Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
March 15 2014 15:47 GMT
#4396
I just never watch the Lakers so I was simply shocked at how terrible they really were. There's no rhyme or reason to their play, especially on the defensive end where they seem to randomly double team opponents at times.

I wouldn't value players like Cory Joseph, Aron Baynes or Jeff Aryes any higher then the players the lakers put out there. It's just that those guys have a system to follow which gets the most of them. And that's on coaching. D'antoni is and always has been a lousy coach who is too rigid in his 'system' to adapt to the players he has. Popovich for example has adapted his game plan dramatically when Duncan could no longer carry the Spurs and they had to rely on Parker and others more for points. D'antoni would never do that. Add to that, his teams' defense is always mediocre as well, regardless of the talent on his team.

I doubt anyone really expected much from the Lakers this season but some of the most recent games are just a haphazard collection of guys playing without any semblance of a team.


Anyhow, my Spurs are finally looking good again this season now that all the injuries have subsided. I suspect it's going to be a Spurs-Thunder rematch in the WCF although Houston and the Clippers could manage to get there as well. Series between those 4 teams are going to rock this year in the west playoffs.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
March 15 2014 17:27 GMT
#4397
On March 16 2014 00:47 Pantagruel wrote:
I just never watch the Lakers so I was simply shocked at how terrible they really were.
...



Seriously? Then don't post about the Laker's problems and how the coach should be fired.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 15 2014 18:20 GMT
#4398
D'Antoni will get the blame but that dude is awesome (his interview are gold). He's a good coach but unfortunately his time in LA has been a nightmare.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
March 15 2014 18:31 GMT
#4399
Did D'Antoni get a fair shake? No. Does he have to go? Yes. Will the Lakers still suck next year? Yes.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 19:07:52
March 15 2014 19:06 GMT
#4400
On March 16 2014 00:47 Pantagruel wrote:
I just never watch the Lakers so I was simply shocked at how terrible they really were. There's no rhyme or reason to their play, especially on the defensive end where they seem to randomly double team opponents at times.

I wouldn't value players like Cory Joseph, Aron Baynes or Jeff Aryes any higher then the players the lakers put out there. It's just that those guys have a system to follow which gets the most of them. And that's on coaching. D'antoni is and always has been a lousy coach who is too rigid in his 'system' to adapt to the players he has. Popovich for example has adapted his game plan dramatically when Duncan could no longer carry the Spurs and they had to rely on Parker and others more for points. D'antoni would never do that. Add to that, his teams' defense is always mediocre as well, regardless of the talent on his team.

I doubt anyone really expected much from the Lakers this season but some of the most recent games are just a haphazard collection of guys playing without any semblance of a team.


Anyhow, my Spurs are finally looking good again this season now that all the injuries have subsided. I suspect it's going to be a Spurs-Thunder rematch in the WCF although Houston and the Clippers could manage to get there as well. Series between those 4 teams are going to rock this year in the west playoffs.


The team you see now is a shell of its former self.

This team isn't playing for this season anymore and hasn't been for a few months now. When they were motivated and coordinated they looked like a sharp team that was just lacking in overall talent. They were fun to watch and even inspiring at times with how they were competing despite being so horribly outmatched on paper. Were they ever going to win the title? No. But they were much better than last in the West, they looked like they were ready to compete for a playoff spot.

Injuries killed all of that. Once we were down to 8 players and invoking rarely heard of provisions of the rule book to keep from forfeiting it dawned on everyone that this season was just never meant to be, and no amount of heart and spirit was going to change that.

The season's over for us. It's a full on tank fest now. When this team was actually trying to win they were fun to watch, that time is over.
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