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Azza
Profile Joined June 2010
China650 Posts
July 02 2013 13:45 GMT
#121
Wake me up Yaya Sanogo, I never planned on re-signing Kolo. Wake me up Yaya Sanogo, I hope you don't miss it or hit it high.

Wake me up, Yaya Sanogo, We hope you're better than that fool from Togo.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
July 02 2013 13:57 GMT
#122
On July 02 2013 22:43 MagickMan wrote:
I though Samba didn't like Russia....


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Mercurial
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada92 Posts
July 02 2013 14:11 GMT
#123
On July 02 2013 21:51 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 21:33 Mercurial wrote:
On July 01 2013 23:38 Mafe wrote:
Even if it has been a long time since it happened the last time, european teams have always struggled when the world cup was in latin america. Just remember, before 2010, no european team had won a world cup outside of europe. So there surely is something like a "continental home" advantage; for various possible reasons.

I'm surprised belgium is ranked so high, above the netherlands; I knew they have a very good qualifying campaign. But I haven't paid too much attention to them, do they really have a quality team all of a sudden? (they haven't qualified for a big tournament since when? 2002?) Can anyone explain? Also same for Colombia. France will be unpredictable as always, but they might not even qualify.

As of now my dark horse picks are Japan (despite the Confed Cup performance) and the USA (I still believe Klinsmann might not be the best club team coach, but I think he's ideal to coach a national team at a big tournament). Not in the sense that I think they will the tournament, but they are underrated quite a lot and have shown quite some potential recently. Would not surprise me to see them eliminate a big name and show up in the quarterfinals.


Colombia is ranked as high as it is because of how it's been performing lately in world cup qualifiers they are second behind Argentina by 3 points and with one game less, not to mention that they have arguably one of the strongest squads that the country has to show for in the last couple generations, and of course you have to mention Falcao.

I admit I am a bit biased seeing as I am Colombian ;p , but yeah I agree not sure that they should be top 10 maybe top 15 right now anyway. but that's just FIFA rankings being messed up as always


Yup, the ranking fluctuates way too much. In the WC, it's usually the bigger football countries (amongst a few upsets here and there) who get to the later stages. The weighted 4 year calculation span might not be the best idea, but making it longer would mean upcoming countries will be slow to rise. Making it shorter would mean the list order would fluctuate even more. And doing well in the qualifiers doesn't much too much, just look at Holland last time .


Well I know I'll probably get a lot of shit for saying this but I think it means more to do well in South American Qualifiers, but I do agree on your sentiment that it is isn't a clear indicator of how a nation will perform in the world cup.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 15:02:30
July 02 2013 14:57 GMT
#124
On July 02 2013 21:59 Pandemona wrote:

Oscar Cardozo's agent has revealed that the Benfica striker's future will be resolved by 17 July, and says he is likely to be on the move



Sad to hear. I always hoped he'd stay with Benfica till the end of his career.

On July 03 2013 00:00 bObaZ wrote:
- Real Madrid wants to include Coentrão and the percentage they have on Garay in the offer for Nemanja Matic


That deal sounds too good to be true.
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 15:07:00
July 02 2013 15:00 GMT
#125
Updating that news with fresh news from the portuguese media (almost always wrong):

- Cardiff is pursuing Cardozo and according to the media they posted a 10M£ offer.
- Monaco offered 12M€ for Sporting, and Portugal national team Goal keeper, Rui Patricio
- Real Madrid wants to include Coentrão and the percentage they have on Garay in the offer for Nemanja Matic
- And reports on an offer of 12M£ from Chelsea for the 18year old sporting winger Bruma


On July 02 2013 23:57 Ysellian wrote:

Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 00:00 bObaZ wrote:
- Real Madrid wants to include Coentrão and the percentage they have on Garay in the offer for Nemanja Matic


That deal sounds too good to be true.


It depends on the money they are willing to offer on top of coentrão and the 50% of garay they still have
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 15:08:36
July 02 2013 15:05 GMT
#126
That Bruma kid is fucking AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Has huge potential from his 5goals in 3games in U20 world cup
Do hope he comes to Chelsea.

Also hope we do not touch Matic


Oh nice, Porto are favorites to sign Bernard, that young talented midfielder from Brazil!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 15:10:58
July 02 2013 15:07 GMT
#127
On July 03 2013 00:05 Pandemona wrote:
That Bruma kid is fucking AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Has huge potential from his 5goals in 3games in U20 world cup
Do hope he comes to Chelsea.

Also hope we do not touch Matic


I'm also hoping you don't touch Matic! Leave him alone!

But unfortunately, with the season he did, i think he won't stay at Benfica.. And a club like Benfica can't refuse an offer for 40M€ as we spend with staff (players included) something around 45M per year.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 15:16:48
July 02 2013 15:14 GMT
#128
On July 03 2013 00:00 bObaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 23:57 Ysellian wrote:

On July 03 2013 00:00 bObaZ wrote:
- Real Madrid wants to include Coentrão and the percentage they have on Garay in the offer for Nemanja Matic


That deal sounds too good to be true.


It depends on the money they are willing to offer on top of coentrão and the 50% of garay they still have


True, but that deal alone is already pretty good if you ask me. Coentrão is a great player for Benfica and not just that but you get the 50% on Garay, the hottest defender at the moment. I actually didn't know that Madrid still owned Garay for 50%, because given the numbers I've been hearing that could be worth 10~15 million at least.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
July 02 2013 15:34 GMT
#129
I'd rather sell anyone else from the squad for half of that price than sell Matic for 40M. We like him so much we bought his brother and 5 other Serbians to keep him company.
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 15:55:39
July 02 2013 15:36 GMT
#130
On July 03 2013 00:34 warding wrote:
I'd rather sell anyone else from the squad for half of that price than sell Matic for 40M. We like him so much we bought his brother and 5 other Serbians to keep him company.


Pretty much what i'm feeling right now

Still acording to Portuguese Media, Bayern is willing to give 41M€ to get David Luiz from Chelsea!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 02 2013 16:15 GMT
#131
Bahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha. Id snatch there hands off and i like the guy xD

Btw any Portuguese news confirmation on Bernard to Porto? Good transfer that, whack a 40-50€million release clause in his contract and another EZPZ money for Porto lol. He going be sick
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8846 Posts
July 02 2013 16:17 GMT
#132
41m euros for luiz? fifa/uefa or someone really has to start setting groundrules for transfer fees. the amount of money being thrown around is ridiculous, not to mention the wages. 400k a week for messi is outrageous irregardless of how good he is.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 16:23:36
July 02 2013 16:22 GMT
#133
On July 03 2013 01:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
41m euros for luiz? fifa/uefa or someone really has to start setting groundrules for transfer fees. the amount of money being thrown around is ridiculous, not to mention the wages. 400k a week for messi is outrageous irregardless of how good he is.

1. Irregardless isn't a word.
2. What exactly would be the benefit of limiting transfer fees? Who would gain from it? Real Madrid and Chelsea?
3. A lot of people are willing to pay money to watch football. If not to the players, and to the clubs investing in the development of these players, then where will the money go, to Abrahamovic and his friends?
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
July 02 2013 16:23 GMT
#134
On July 03 2013 01:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
41m euros for luiz? fifa/uefa or someone really has to start setting groundrules for transfer fees. the amount of money being thrown around is ridiculous, not to mention the wages. 400k a week for messi is outrageous irregardless of how good he is.


Keep in Mind that this is the Portuguese Media. For a 10M people country we have an outrageous amount of sport newspapers. We have 3 daily sport newspapers (A Bola, O Jogo and Record) so that's why we have A LOT of news everyday, and also a lot of speculation.

About Bernard, all the papers say that the deal could be done by the end of the week.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
July 02 2013 16:33 GMT
#135
On July 03 2013 01:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
41m euros for luiz? fifa/uefa or someone really has to start setting groundrules for transfer fees. the amount of money being thrown around is ridiculous, not to mention the wages. 400k a week for messi is outrageous irregardless of how good he is.


I agree.

But, noone shouldn't really, actors, singers, artists of all sorts, athletes, all these oligarchs like B.Gates etc.
We can't really do anything about it though, that's the bestial power of capitalism, you see 100m and you think that's a hefty sum but the guys who pay for it are gonna get it back ten fold so..
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
July 02 2013 16:37 GMT
#136
On July 03 2013 01:33 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 01:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
41m euros for luiz? fifa/uefa or someone really has to start setting groundrules for transfer fees. the amount of money being thrown around is ridiculous, not to mention the wages. 400k a week for messi is outrageous irregardless of how good he is.


I agree.

But, noone shouldn't really, actors, singers, artists of all sorts, athletes, all these oligarchs like B.Gates etc.
We can't really do anything about it though, that's the bestial power of capitalism, you see 100m and you think that's a hefty sum but the guys who pay for it are gonna get it back ten fold so..

All the people you listed (Bill Gates is not an oligarch), create much more value for society than they get paid. They deserve everything they earn.
alwaysfeeling
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands55 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 16:45:10
July 02 2013 16:43 GMT
#137
On July 03 2013 01:37 warding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 01:33 Steveling wrote:
On July 03 2013 01:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
41m euros for luiz? fifa/uefa or someone really has to start setting groundrules for transfer fees. the amount of money being thrown around is ridiculous, not to mention the wages. 400k a week for messi is outrageous irregardless of how good he is.


I agree.

But, noone shouldn't really, actors, singers, artists of all sorts, athletes, all these oligarchs like B.Gates etc.
We can't really do anything about it though, that's the bestial power of capitalism, you see 100m and you think that's a hefty sum but the guys who pay for it are gonna get it back ten fold so..

All the people you listed (Bill Gates is not an oligarch), create much more value for society than they get paid. They deserve everything they earn.


Justin Bieber? Paul Walker? Jay-Z? Keanu Reeves?

I'm not saying Athletes are worth more than actors or singers but they're at least on the same level. For me, soccer makes me happy, for others maybe it's movies/music but you really can't argue and say that those making exorbitant amounts of money are better/worse than others. one could argue that athletes are artists as well..


1. Irregardless isn't a word.


stop being a douche. you know what he meant.
i always lie
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
July 02 2013 16:44 GMT
#138
Bill Gates deserves everything he has gained in life, his product has influenced possibly billions of people.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
July 02 2013 16:51 GMT
#139
On July 03 2013 01:43 alwaysfeeling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 01:37 warding wrote:
On July 03 2013 01:33 Steveling wrote:
On July 03 2013 01:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
41m euros for luiz? fifa/uefa or someone really has to start setting groundrules for transfer fees. the amount of money being thrown around is ridiculous, not to mention the wages. 400k a week for messi is outrageous irregardless of how good he is.


I agree.

But, noone shouldn't really, actors, singers, artists of all sorts, athletes, all these oligarchs like B.Gates etc.
We can't really do anything about it though, that's the bestial power of capitalism, you see 100m and you think that's a hefty sum but the guys who pay for it are gonna get it back ten fold so..

All the people you listed (Bill Gates is not an oligarch), create much more value for society than they get paid. They deserve everything they earn.


Justin Bieber? Paul Walker? Jay-Z? Keanu Reeves?

I'm not saying Athletes are worth more than actors or singers but they're at least on the same level. For me, soccer makes me happy, for others maybe it's movies/music but you really can't argue and say that those making exorbitant amounts of money are better/worse than others. one could argue that athletes are artists as well..

Show nested quote +

1. Irregardless isn't a word.


stop being a douche. you know what he meant.

People are willing to buy Justin Bieber's music and go to his concerts. If someone pays 60$ to go to his concert, it means that the concert generates over 60$ of happiness to that someone. If Justin Bieber is worth millions, it means he's generated millions worth of satisfaction to people around the world.

Someone needed to point out irregardless isn't a word otherwise he's going to look bad again and again. I was being kind.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
July 02 2013 17:00 GMT
#140
On July 03 2013 01:51 warding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 01:43 alwaysfeeling wrote:
On July 03 2013 01:37 warding wrote:
On July 03 2013 01:33 Steveling wrote:
On July 03 2013 01:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
41m euros for luiz? fifa/uefa or someone really has to start setting groundrules for transfer fees. the amount of money being thrown around is ridiculous, not to mention the wages. 400k a week for messi is outrageous irregardless of how good he is.


I agree.

But, noone shouldn't really, actors, singers, artists of all sorts, athletes, all these oligarchs like B.Gates etc.
We can't really do anything about it though, that's the bestial power of capitalism, you see 100m and you think that's a hefty sum but the guys who pay for it are gonna get it back ten fold so..

All the people you listed (Bill Gates is not an oligarch), create much more value for society than they get paid. They deserve everything they earn.


Justin Bieber? Paul Walker? Jay-Z? Keanu Reeves?

I'm not saying Athletes are worth more than actors or singers but they're at least on the same level. For me, soccer makes me happy, for others maybe it's movies/music but you really can't argue and say that those making exorbitant amounts of money are better/worse than others. one could argue that athletes are artists as well..


1. Irregardless isn't a word.


stop being a douche. you know what he meant.


60$ of happiness

millions worth of satisfaction


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This very theatric fella left nothing for me to say, lol.
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