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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 20:52:56
February 23 2014 20:52 GMT
#12701
Why is Simeone using the "Team B" when they don't have champions next week and they can rest? Same error that Barcelona yesterday...
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 21:06:51
February 23 2014 21:06 GMT
#12702
On February 24 2014 05:49 Mensol wrote:
lol okay -_- Real Madrid gonna win la liga this year.


I am sad right now
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
February 23 2014 21:15 GMT
#12703
On February 24 2014 06:06 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 05:49 Mensol wrote:
lol okay -_- Real Madrid gonna win la liga this year.


I am sad right now

This season just feels less hype without Mourinho in Spain. Hope the top three can keep their shit together till the end of the season.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 21:23:02
February 23 2014 21:22 GMT
#12704
On February 24 2014 06:15 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 06:06 Ysellian wrote:
On February 24 2014 05:49 Mensol wrote:
lol okay -_- Real Madrid gonna win la liga this year.


I am sad right now

This season just feels less hype without Mourinho in Spain. Hope the top three can keep their shit together till the end of the season.


Yeah, I hopek Atletico and Barcelona will remain close because this league has so little differences and it feels like RM are unstoppable at the moment. Meanwhile the premier league is insane, battle for first is still a realistic possibility for 4 teams.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
February 23 2014 21:31 GMT
#12705
On February 24 2014 03:02 Pandemona wrote:
Wow Spurs so bad
From looking half decent to 2 defeats in a row playing poorly xD
2 losses to bets in a row from spurs gj gj

Thursday night in Ukrain into away game in PL.... You deserve to lose your money mate
"NO" -Has
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 23 2014 21:38 GMT
#12706
Did they really play in ukraine with all this going on there?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 21:45:12
February 23 2014 21:44 GMT
#12707
On February 24 2014 06:38 Steveling wrote:
Did they really play in ukraine with all this going on there?


Valencia this week had to play in Chipre against Dinamo Kiev in Europa League.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 22:08:53
February 23 2014 22:04 GMT
#12708
On February 24 2014 06:38 Steveling wrote:
Did they really play in ukraine with all this going on there?

Nah, the east of the country wasnt a security risk. Having a high risk match in Kiev though...

Anyway Serbian Superleague started this weekend after 3 months of not playing. We have had nice weather throughout the winter but it just had to rain today -.-
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-24 05:11:58
February 24 2014 05:09 GMT
#12709
Carrow Road is a fortress. OTBC
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
February 24 2014 09:58 GMT
#12710
ManU are getting serious:

Reports suggest that Manchester United are pondering a significant offer for Bayern Munich midfielder Toni Kroos.

The 24-year old Germany international is out of contract at the Allianz Arena this summer and has been unable to agree terms with the Bundesliga and European champions.

The Mirror is suggesting that United are ready to offer Kroos £250,000-a-week to lure him to Old Trafford which is reportedly three times more than he earns in Munich.

Kroos has been in brilliant form in recent times and Bayern would demand a transfer fee of around £30million for his services.


http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/man-utd-make-massive-offer-bayern-munich-ace-kroos-4009226?utm_source=main_feed#.UwsXtPl5OkE

Should he go?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9958 Posts
February 24 2014 10:22 GMT
#12711
On February 24 2014 18:58 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
ManU are getting serious:

Reports suggest that Manchester United are pondering a significant offer for Bayern Munich midfielder Toni Kroos.

The 24-year old Germany international is out of contract at the Allianz Arena this summer and has been unable to agree terms with the Bundesliga and European champions.

The Mirror is suggesting that United are ready to offer Kroos £250,000-a-week to lure him to Old Trafford which is reportedly three times more than he earns in Munich.

Kroos has been in brilliant form in recent times and Bayern would demand a transfer fee of around £30million for his services.


http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/man-utd-make-massive-offer-bayern-munich-ace-kroos-4009226?utm_source=main_feed#.UwsXtPl5OkE

Should he go?



If United are after spending that kind of money then yes of course he should. United are still the biggest club in the EPL, if not the world, they're just having a bad year. I'm pretty confident that they will be right back up there at the top in the next couple of years, and i'll bet he would want to be a part of that.
RIP Meatloaf <3
anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
February 24 2014 10:29 GMT
#12712
If his contract runs out, how exactly can Bayern demand 30 million?
Although there are also reports of United trading Kagawa+money for Gündogan.
Not entirely sure how many of these ManU rumours actually have any face value...
Imagine a place where the Alps meet the Mediterranean, where you can pick autumn fruits in the morning, bathe in the Adriatic in the afternoon, and go night skiing in the evening…It’s Slovenia!
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
February 24 2014 10:48 GMT
#12713
On February 24 2014 19:22 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 18:58 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
ManU are getting serious:

Reports suggest that Manchester United are pondering a significant offer for Bayern Munich midfielder Toni Kroos.

The 24-year old Germany international is out of contract at the Allianz Arena this summer and has been unable to agree terms with the Bundesliga and European champions.

The Mirror is suggesting that United are ready to offer Kroos £250,000-a-week to lure him to Old Trafford which is reportedly three times more than he earns in Munich.

Kroos has been in brilliant form in recent times and Bayern would demand a transfer fee of around £30million for his services.


http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/man-utd-make-massive-offer-bayern-munich-ace-kroos-4009226?utm_source=main_feed#.UwsXtPl5OkE

Should he go?



If United are after spending that kind of money then yes of course he should. United are still the biggest club in the EPL, if not the world, they're just having a bad year. I'm pretty confident that they will be right back up there at the top in the next couple of years, and i'll bet he would want to be a part of that.


I am either reading this wrong or The Mirror didn´t do his work. Kroos contract goes until 2015, which includes next season. Also Bayern Munich stated recently that they will not sell Kroos even if he doesn´t renews his contract "We are a buying club not a selling" (dunno who exactly said it).

It is very possible that Kroos uses ManU to raise his payment in Munich as it is reported that the money is the main thing that holds it back. Kroos current contract came from a different time for Bayern, it can be seen as the same payment region as Alabas who made 2.5 million a year for being the frking best young left CB on the planet. So this could go fast potentially if Bayern is willing to pay him the money he wants.

Besides money there is just no point of leaving Munich. He is playing regularly on the arguably best (and still young enough) team in europe with one of the best coaches of his generation. His chances for the national team are better and he is still only 24. He could make 4 more years win another one or two CL titles and still be in his prime for PL or La Liga.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
February 24 2014 10:48 GMT
#12714
On February 24 2014 18:58 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
ManU are getting serious:

Reports suggest that Manchester United are pondering a significant offer for Bayern Munich midfielder Toni Kroos.

The 24-year old Germany international is out of contract at the Allianz Arena this summer and has been unable to agree terms with the Bundesliga and European champions.

The Mirror is suggesting that United are ready to offer Kroos £250,000-a-week to lure him to Old Trafford which is reportedly three times more than he earns in Munich.

Kroos has been in brilliant form in recent times and Bayern would demand a transfer fee of around £30million for his services.


http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/man-utd-make-massive-offer-bayern-munich-ace-kroos-4009226?utm_source=main_feed#.UwsXtPl5OkE

Should he go?



Wow thats alot of money :o . But I dont want him to go! We should really give him a higher salary. Not 14 Mio € a year but he of course really enjoys playing for bayern and I think hell stay if he gets 2 times his salary.
Respect my authoritah!!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 24 2014 12:00 GMT
#12715
Yanited going to be linked with everyone under the sun. Kross could go to Yanited if he wants too as he is youung, missing 1 season in the champions league is not that big deal. HOWEVER it might be more than that? If Yanited don't get top 4 (which they won't) then they have to compete with the top 4 this season. City Chelsea Arsenal Liverpool, on top of competing with Spurs to battle for those lucrative spots. The league becomes stupidly competitive and if Moyes gets anything wrong next season after spending all this big money they will be in BIG SHITE.
Prssure is huge now, it doubles if he spends these big numbers on players.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9958 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-24 12:06:04
February 24 2014 12:05 GMT
#12716
OK so i think the time has come to have a look at the SkyBet Championship one more time. If you recall i did a preview at the beginning of the season (its in the OP - thanks Pandemona), so i want to look at the race for automatic promotion, the playoff push, and the relegation battles.

The table as it stands:
+ Show Spoiler +
PL GD PTS
1 Leicester 32 27 71
2 Burnley 32 24 63
3 Derby 32 20 61
4 QPR 31 12 56
5 Forest 32 18 55
6 Reading 32 13 50
7 Wigan 31 8 49
8 Brighton 31 6 46
9 Blackburn 31 3 46
10 Ipswich 32 6 45
11 Leeds 31 4 43
12 Watford 32 5 42
13 M'borough 32 5 40
14 Hudd'sfld 32 -4 40
15 Sheff Wed 31 0 36
16 Birm'hm 32 -2 36
17 Bournmth 31 -14 36
18 Blackpool 32 -15 35
19 Bolton 32 -12 33
20 Doncaster 32 -20 30
21 Millwall 32 -29 28
22 Charlton 29 -14 27
23 Barnsley 31 -21 26
24 Yeovil 31 -20 25


Some general info:
The Championship isn't as close as it was last year. Last season there were 14 points difference between 6th place and 21st place at the end of the season. This year it appears that the relegation teams are in much worse form, and the promotion teams are miles ahead of them.
This means that, barring any ridiculous loss or gain of form in the last 14-16 games, the table is looking pretty much set right now. The teams in the bottom half of the table have very little chance of sneaking in to the playoffs, and the teams in the top half are pretty much looking safe. That might sound normal, but the Championship is normally an extremely tight league, so this year is the exception rather than the rule.

The Race for Automatic Promotion:

Leicester City
+ Show Spoiler +

Leicester have been the best team in the Championship by a long way this year. Ten points ahead of 3rd place right now, it would be unwise to bet against them getting automatic promotion. Their form right now is incredible, as they are unbeaten in 13 games, and they truly have a Premier League standard squad already.

Key player: LLoyd Dyer. Dyer has had an absolutely incredible season so far, contributing 9 goals and 6 assists from the wing. His skill and pace have been tearing defences apart all season, its not just the goals and assists, he is key to the way Leicester attack, and he is the key to all of their big wins. Of course, their team is built on a very strong defence and midfield, so even without him they are more than able to win games.

Burnley
+ Show Spoiler +

Burnley have been a revelation this year, and IMO its all down to their manager Sean Dyche. He has his team playing in an organized way, defending very capably, whilst dominating games in midfield and allowing their start strikers, Danny Ings and Sam Vokes, to get alot of goals. Ings sits on 19 for the season, while Vokes has 17. This is incredibly impressive from both players, and it is Burnley's exceptional midfield that has allowed this to happen. Marney and Arfield have both shown that as part of Dyche's system, they can flourish and completely take opponents out of the game. For a squad that was assembled for a meager sum, they have proved that in the right system, players can play way above their pay grade.

Key player: I would like to put Dyche here, but he's a manager lol. Dyche's team has been consistent all year and that's down to him.
As for players, i think Dean Marney in their midfield has been absolutely key. You can go on and on about how many goals their strikers have scored, but last year they had Charlie Austin, who scored over 20 goals. Ings barely got a look in. When Austin left for QPR many thought that Burnley had lost their key player, but it turns out their goals were coming from their system, and their midfield's ability to dominate, rather than individual brilliance. Marney is a solid midfielder. He has all aspects of the game down to a tee, from his tackling ability, his ability to lead and organise, and his decision making. You won't see him spreading passes around Xavi style, but that's not the Burnley way. He keeps it simple, and ensures that Burnley are organised and able to take the opposition out of games, and in the Championship that is where your battles are won.

Derby 'scum of the earth' County
+ Show Spoiler +

The sacking of Nigel Clough (son of the greatest manager England never had) earlier this season has proven to be the wisest decision their board ever made. Under Clough Derby were showing very little progress year to year, and their young players were not developing as they should. In schteps Schteve LOL!!! Mclaren. Having achieved either tremendous success or hideous failure at every club he's managed at so far, it sure was a gamble, and one that has turned out to pay off for them. What many considered to be a 'honeymoon period' for Derby has continued long into the season and made Derby a wildcard for automatic promotion. Their style is counter attacking and slick, rather than the more dominant style of Burnley, relying on pace and individual skill. They also have a couple of in form strikers , which can never hurt, including the recent loan signing Patrick Bamford of Chelsea.

Key Player: Chris Martin. Martin has been strong for Derby this year, has contributed with goals, and seems to have that ability to get a goal out of nothing, which has won Derby many points this year.

Queens Park Rangers
+ Show Spoiler +

Something has happened to QPR since the start of the season, and it ain't good. Hit by injuries quite badly during November/December (including one game where they had no strikers fit), they have struggled to really regain automatic promotion form. A brief look at their forums shows that there is alot of unrest amongst the fans (as there always is with football fans), and much of this is due to the quality of their squad. They have some of the most expensive players in the Championship, but many of them have not been performing well at all this year. Assou Ekkoto (i think that's how you spell it) has been extremely poor, with performances ranging from disinterested to downright calamitous.
With the January transfer window, however, 'Arry had a chance to sort things out, and went out and signed 4 strikers and an attacking midfielder. These players are going to be key for the rest of their season, but it remains to be seen whether it is too late, or whether they can mount a late challenge for automatic promotion.

Key player: Junior Hoilett. Another 'something from nothing' player who can win games on his own, this is exactly the sort of player who is going to be able to push QPR on late in the season, as games get tighter, and upsets start to spring everywhere. Hoilett has immense skill and scary pace, two things that are incredibly advantageous when a lack of team spirit and mental toughness seem to be bringing you down.

Nottingham '2 European Cups' Forest
+ Show Spoiler +
Something appears to be going slightly wrong in Nottingham. Saturday was their first loss in 14 Championship games, convincingly destroyed 3-1 by Burnley, the depth of Forest's injury crisis is really beginning to reveal some problems. The loan market seems to be the only out right now, with 5-7 (depending on your view) first team players on the injury list, including the entire back 4 and midfield 3. Forest are having to make do with players who are average at Championship level and its really showing. Despite the signings of Vaughan (now injured), Hobbs (also now injured) and Olympiakos star Djebbour in the January window, Forest are below strength and are playing way below par. Djebbour, however, still needs to acclimatise to the faster, more physical pace of the Championship and is yet to make an impact (while still showing that he could have potential to be a real star for Forest). Loan signings are going ot be the key to a promotion push for Forest, without them they could be resigned to missing out on the playoffs and trying again next season.

Key Player: Andy Reid. Possibly the most talented midfielder in the Championship, Reid has been at the heart of everything good about Forest this year, and is playing the best football of his career, which has led to an international call up for Ireland. I don't have enough praise for this man. With a bit more pace he could walk into most Premier League sides, especially with his new found fitness (he was always derided for being fat and unfit, but no more - i promise you) and his ability to captain and lead the team.


Work in progress... the rest is coming
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-24 12:11:26
February 24 2014 12:08 GMT
#12717
Best thing about the championship is that silly QPR are so far off the top ahahaha. Not even in automatic places too ahaha so sick xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9958 Posts
February 24 2014 12:11 GMT
#12718
On February 24 2014 21:08 Pandemona wrote:
Best thin about the championship is that silly QPR are so far off the top ahahaha. Not even in automatic places too ahaha so sick xD


Yup, its about the only thing about my preseason predictions that was right lol.
I had a feeling it would happen, i think its the pressure. They were fine until things started going wrong, and then the fans turn on you and the atmosphere around the team takes a nosedive. It was always going to happen with QPR to be honest.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 24 2014 12:12 GMT
#12719
They also have the best squad in the championship by a mile, better than Leicesters and Forrests and Boltons etcetc. Yet they play 1 striker every game and still can't even defend.
They should walked this league but instead they play dull boring football with 1 striker up front.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9958 Posts
February 24 2014 12:15 GMT
#12720
On February 24 2014 21:12 Pandemona wrote:
They also have the best squad in the championship by a mile, better than Leicesters and Forrests and Boltons etcetc. Yet they play 1 striker every game and still can't even defend.
They should walked this league but instead they play dull boring football with 1 striker up front.


The Championship is a different league to the EPL. QPR just didn't adapt. TBH I think Arry has got his tactics ok, even though their fans moan about it, but the players just haven't adapted at all. The pace is different, the style SO different to the EPL. Their star players have all (except possibly Krancjar) been absolute wank this year.
RIP Meatloaf <3
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