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On February 14 2014 06:49 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 06:47 Steveling wrote:On February 14 2014 05:08 Liquid`Drone wrote:On February 14 2014 01:56 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Based on all my observations that I have done in my life (sportsmen, politicians, musicians whatever whatever), I am pretty sure that the majority of players would go to Anzhi in Drone's scenario.
That is just humans in general who are not only greedy as sharkie said, but they also love the feeling of safety. With safety I mean having sufficient money for the rest of your life for you and your family.
I don't say you would have more money in the end when you earn $10 mil because you might just spend even more then. But just this comfort in your head of knowing that you could earn $5 mil more per year must be overwhelming. It is a psychological thing. Especially taken into consideration that there is always the risk that a career might end much sooner than you hope (injury etc.) and 3: actually genuinely rare players like Batistuta who claimed never to enjoy the game and whom was only playing for the money, and these three groups are gonna greatly prioritize wealth.. I don't know where you are getting this from but I'm sure you are taking it completely out of context. The guy stayed with Fiorentina when they dropped to Serie B, also he spent 9 seasons there despite numerous offers for him from top clubs. They even had a statue of him over there, which the heartbroken fans dismantled for souvenirs after he went to Roma. I just find it weird that you mentioned this legend when there are people like Figo, Pirlo, RvP, Gotze etc. I got it from an interview with him which I read many years ago. He downright stated that he never enjoyed football and was only doing it for so long because he was really good at it and loved the money. It's very possible that this interview was exaggerated or wrongly translated or whatever, but I'm 100% certain I read it and I didn't have any immediate reason to think it was bs. 
That interview was distorted I believe. He never enjoyed watching football, which was read as him not loving football. Like Steveling said Batistuta (along with Rui Costa), belonged to a rare breed of players who nearly gifted Fiorentina with an unlikely championship and their transfers ultimately helped save the club from financial ruin. I have to admit times seem changed, far too many players seem to be content on grabbing a quick paycheck.
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On February 14 2014 05:49 Influ wrote:
People underestimate the amount of influence that agents have. Most of thetime it doesnt matter that much what the players want when their agents only work into the direction towards them making the most money. They get their portion from transfer fees, commercial deal and stuff like that so they often have other interest than the player they represent.
While agents have an obvious stake and influence on the deals the player receives this statement is a huge exaggeration of that. An agent will always do what his client wants ahead of what makes them the most money, or they won't have any clients.
The job of the agent is to get what the player wants, and the good ones get what their client wants plus a little more.
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On February 14 2014 09:12 Craze wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 05:49 Influ wrote:
People underestimate the amount of influence that agents have. Most of thetime it doesnt matter that much what the players want when their agents only work into the direction towards them making the most money. They get their portion from transfer fees, commercial deal and stuff like that so they often have other interest than the player they represent. While agents have an obvious stake and influence on the deals the player receives this statement is a huge exaggeration of that. An agent will always do what his client wants ahead of what makes them the most money, or they won't have any clients. The job of the agent is to get what the player wants, and the good ones get what their client wants plus a little more.
you must be delutional to think that agents have no influence on what their clients want. they subtly influence them to want what is in the agent's interest.
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On February 14 2014 07:58 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 06:49 Liquid`Drone wrote:On February 14 2014 06:47 Steveling wrote:On February 14 2014 05:08 Liquid`Drone wrote:On February 14 2014 01:56 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Based on all my observations that I have done in my life (sportsmen, politicians, musicians whatever whatever), I am pretty sure that the majority of players would go to Anzhi in Drone's scenario.
That is just humans in general who are not only greedy as sharkie said, but they also love the feeling of safety. With safety I mean having sufficient money for the rest of your life for you and your family.
I don't say you would have more money in the end when you earn $10 mil because you might just spend even more then. But just this comfort in your head of knowing that you could earn $5 mil more per year must be overwhelming. It is a psychological thing. Especially taken into consideration that there is always the risk that a career might end much sooner than you hope (injury etc.) and 3: actually genuinely rare players like Batistuta who claimed never to enjoy the game and whom was only playing for the money, and these three groups are gonna greatly prioritize wealth.. I don't know where you are getting this from but I'm sure you are taking it completely out of context. The guy stayed with Fiorentina when they dropped to Serie B, also he spent 9 seasons there despite numerous offers for him from top clubs. They even had a statue of him over there, which the heartbroken fans dismantled for souvenirs after he went to Roma. I just find it weird that you mentioned this legend when there are people like Figo, Pirlo, RvP, Gotze etc. I got it from an interview with him which I read many years ago. He downright stated that he never enjoyed football and was only doing it for so long because he was really good at it and loved the money. It's very possible that this interview was exaggerated or wrongly translated or whatever, but I'm 100% certain I read it and I didn't have any immediate reason to think it was bs. That interview was distorted I believe. He never enjoyed watching football, which was read as him not loving football. Like Steveling said Batistuta (along with Rui Costa), belonged to a rare breed of players who nearly gifted Fiorentina with an unlikely championship and their transfers ultimately helped save the club from financial ruin. I have to admit times seem changed, far too many players seem to be content on grabbing a quick paycheck.
That makes sense, guess I can attribute this one to mistranslation. 
Honestly though I don't think Götze RvP (or Cashley for that matter) should be explained by money. They all went to clubs with a (significantly) higher chance of winning trophies - and for all of them it has paid off in terms of trophies.
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On February 14 2014 09:48 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 09:12 Craze wrote:On February 14 2014 05:49 Influ wrote:
People underestimate the amount of influence that agents have. Most of thetime it doesnt matter that much what the players want when their agents only work into the direction towards them making the most money. They get their portion from transfer fees, commercial deal and stuff like that so they often have other interest than the player they represent. While agents have an obvious stake and influence on the deals the player receives this statement is a huge exaggeration of that. An agent will always do what his client wants ahead of what makes them the most money, or they won't have any clients. The job of the agent is to get what the player wants, and the good ones get what their client wants plus a little more. you must be delutional to think that agents have no influence on what their clients want. they subtly influence them to want what is in the agent's interest.
Uh... look at my quote, read it again carefully. Where did I say an agent has "no interest?" I said agents have an "obvious stake and influence on the deals the player receives." But that doesn't mean agents have a larger influence on where players end up than the player themselves.
An agent negotiates the deals that a player receives and operates based on the leeway a player provides them. Some players might say to an agent that they're open to moving anywhere in order to make the most money, some players will say that they are going to a certain team and the agent needs to do everything in their power to make that happen. Some cases that come to mind are Alan Shearer to Newcastle for the former and Samuel Eto'o or any other star to Anzhi for the latter.
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Chiellini is fucking hilarious ahahahahahahaha. He believe Phantom theory and searching for seven people who exactly looks like himself.
He shared Mehmet Topals pictures on twitter and wrote" He totally looks like me, only difference is that he has few more hairs than me."
And the third one is Adane Girma, Chiellini keep looking for people who looks like himself.
![[image loading]](http://image.haber7.com/haber/haber7/archive/mehmet_topal_bana_benziyor_3693710jpeg_h146.peg)
Chilleini - Mehmet Topal - Adane Girma
i found one as well:,
![[image loading]](http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120212043332/spongefan/images/a/ae/Squidward_tentacles.jpg)
Someone should tell Chiellini that they dont have to be football player ^_____________^
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Wenger on the title race…It is very open, only Chelsea can lose it because they are in front and all the other teams can win it. on Liverpool and Spurs being back in it…
Yes, I always said that many teams are in it and it will be very tight until the end. on why every other manager says they are not contenders…
It's fear to fail. on what he means by fear of failure…
If you're not in the race you cannot lose it, if you declare yourself not in the race you cannot lose it, it's as simple as that. I think just that our job is to be ambitious and to try to win, and if we do not win to take full responsibility for that. It's as simple as that and that's how I see it. I say that yes we are in it [the title race], yes we will have a go for it, we will absolutely give everything to go for it and if we don't do it I will take responsibility for it, but I just see it like that." http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/extra-wenger-on-title-race-and-sagna
Mourinho on Wenger's failure comment:
'He is a specialist in failure. I'm not. If supposedly he is right and I'm afraid of failure it's because I don't fail many times. Maybe he's right. 'The reality is that he's a specialist because eight years without a piece of silverware is failure. If I do that at Chelsea, eight years, I leave London and I don't come back. http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3669788
SHOTS FIRED!
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FRISCO, Texas (Friday, Feb. 14) – Pending receipt of his visa and ITC, FC Dallas has acquired forward Andrés Ramiro Escobar on loan from Ukrainian power Dynamo Kiev, the club announced today. Per league policy, terms of the deal will not be disclosed.
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Fulham just hired Felix Magath, lol.
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On February 15 2014 03:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +FRISCO, Texas (Friday, Feb. 14) – Pending receipt of his visa and ITC, FC Dallas has acquired forward Andrés Ramiro Escobar on loan from Ukrainian power Dynamo Kiev, the club announced today. Per league policy, terms of the deal will not be disclosed. Source
good for escobar. leaving messy ukraine is probably a good idea atm...
magath to fulham could be a really good deal for both sides. in Germany, we say that magath is the "personified ass-kick for every player". so maybe he can make them fight harder.
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Pandemona
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LOL Felix...the last dictator in Europe ahahah gg. Fulham are relegated! Cannot see his training methods going down at all in Fulham lol.
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Wow, Balotelli scored AMAZING goal for Milan! Really awesome shot in otherwise boring game.
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On February 15 2014 06:42 ViperPL wrote:
Wow, Balotelli scored AMAZING goal for Milan! Really awesome shot in otherwise boring game.
agree
someone should put the gif in this thread
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On February 15 2014 04:49 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 03:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:FRISCO, Texas (Friday, Feb. 14) – Pending receipt of his visa and ITC, FC Dallas has acquired forward Andrés Ramiro Escobar on loan from Ukrainian power Dynamo Kiev, the club announced today. Per league policy, terms of the deal will not be disclosed. Source good for escobar. leaving messy ukraine is probably a good idea atm... magath to fulham could be a really good deal for both sides. in Germany, we say that magath is the "personified ass-kick for every player". so maybe he can make them fight harder.
The good thing for Fulham is that he can't buy new players right now, so no 40+ player roster until summer!
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Again the Stadium looks half empty yet the chants are loud as hell.
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On February 15 2014 07:40 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Again the Stadium looks half empty yet the chants are loud as hell.
A half empty San Siro holds more fans than most Premier League stadiums though.
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On February 15 2014 05:09 Pandemona wrote:
LOL Felix...the last dictator in Europe ahahah gg. Fulham are relegated! Cannot see his training methods going down at all in Fulham lol.
At least their players will be in peak physical condition when they're competing for the promotion to the premier league next season xD.
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Some players are "mercenaries" for a reason. Especially the players who come from poor countries often have a huge crowd of family and friends at home depending on them (not only on them giving money away but also on them lending money, opening businesses, hiring people etc.), people who would otherwise have no means to earn a decent amount of money.
Also having experienced true poverty might change the míndset when it comes to money hoarding and quality of life issues.
On February 15 2014 05:09 Pandemona wrote:
LOL Felix...the last dictator in Europe ahahah gg. Fulham are relegated! Cannot see his training methods going down at all in Fulham lol.
There's a good chance Magath might have lost his touch, but he was very successful in the past in similar conditions. Some players thrive under his hard training regime. He is not good with players who need encouragement or crack under pressure though.
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On February 15 2014 18:36 Maenander wrote:
He is not good with players who need encouragement or crack under pressure though.
LOL good thing he took over a squad battling relegation.
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EPT
