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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
January 23 2014 05:59 GMT
#11241
yeah ive always said mata isnt the type of player we need. hes good, but we just have too many players in the same position. we need to bring in scholes types of players if there are any and sell the dead weight wingers. is nani injured as well? i still wanna see him given at least a go too. id rather take inconsistent brilliance over do nothing all game young/valencia
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 23 2014 06:08 GMT
#11242
Getting the headlines today is the concept of “orange” cards that would send players, essentially, to the equivalent of hockey’s penalty box.

Worse than a yellow but better than a red, the card is an interesting idea but there’s a larger idea here: could the campaigns to replace Sepp Blatter produce a better football? Champagne is just one man up for the job and wants to see a proper, televised debate between all candidates. With ideas like his, in all honesty I can’t wait to see what else is proffered.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 06:19:12
January 23 2014 06:15 GMT
#11243
On January 23 2014 08:12 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 22:24 Twisted wrote:
That one surgeon will easily be replaced by another. Don't be silly.


the best surgeon in the world makes a fraction of the best footballer. that's just fucked priorities.
I can totally agree that messi > 1 random surgeon, but that's not a fair comparison. I'm pretty certain the 3000th best football player also makes more than the 3000th best surgeon.


Probably, but the median average for surgeons is much higher, then again they're job at a median level is way more valuable and significantly harder to become competent at.

Still, its an apples to oranges comparison, sure if entertainers make more than life savers and healers you could find something wrong from some moral high horse.

but entertainers reach more people than surgeons do. Are football wages silly ? Absolutely, but from a personal and sustainability perspective and really nothing more than opinion coming from me or anyone else.

Should they make less ? Not for me to say. The reality is a player is worth what someone is willing to pay for him. The one with the dough decides their worth not us. One can only have faith that the people dishing it out arent complete morons.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
January 23 2014 08:34 GMT
#11244
A ton of people makes so much more than footballers. I think that yes, footballers make an awful lot for playing football but some people do less and make more. There is lots of things to change before you slice their wages.

The big downside I guess is that ticket prices seem to be really high.
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
January 23 2014 08:49 GMT
#11245
HOLY COW @ manU vs sunderland
so that's what it looks like when two English teams meet in a penalty shootout hahaha I have always wondered
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 23 2014 08:58 GMT
#11246
Transfer News

Chelsea are planning a renewed attempt to sign Wayne Rooney in the summer in the belief that his expiring contract will enable them to get him on the cheap.

Arsenal will make a last-ditch push to buy Schalke midfielder Julian Draxler now rather than risk getting caught up in a summer bidding war.

Atletico Madrid coach Diego Simeone is willing to pay Chelsea £20million for goalkeeper Thibaut Courtois, who is in his third season on loan at the Spanish side.

Jose Mourinho wants to land Real Sociedad striker Antoine Griezmann after flogging Juan Mata to Manchester United.

Chelsea have offered Basel £11 million to try to stop Mohamed Salah's move to Liverpool.

Jackson Martinez has been linked with Arsenal but he is set to sign a new contract at Porto next week.

West Ham are considering loan moves for Catania forward Maxi Lopez and Roma striker Marco Borriello.

Liverpool and AC Milan are interested in a summer deal for Porto forward Juan Iturbe, who is currently on loan at Verona.

Barcelona want to agree a new deal within a week for Martin Montoya, who has been linked with Liverpool.

Paris Saint Germain want Miralem Pjanic and could offer Javier Pastore plus cash to Roma in exchange.

Borussia Dortmund are not in for £6million-rated Inter Milan defender Andrea Ranocchia.

Newcastle will have to "pay what Real Madrid paid for Gareth Bale" to get Montpellier midfielder Remy Cabella this month, claims the French club's president.

Leicester goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel is a £3.5million target for AC Milan.


ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
January 23 2014 10:04 GMT
#11247
Messi has 330 goals and 124 assists in 400 appearances, lol.

And wtf with man.u, they need a new coach and 10 new players it seems, xD.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 10:45:46
January 23 2014 10:43 GMT
#11248
Just to point out that being a surgeon is close to a risk-free career - you study to become one and you have a guaranteed high paying job for the rest of your professional career. There is a ton of risk in trying to be a football player and only a small percentage of those who try end up actually making it. Those who make it then have a relatively short career.

Sacrificing your academic and social life as well as your youth for a return of 60k per year is relatively dumb. Sacrificing it for the small chance to be a superstar and earn millions makes more sense and seems fairer. I think the payoff is right.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 23 2014 11:04 GMT
#11249
Warding a surgeon is not a risk-free career haha. I know what you mean btw and I agree; I just wouldn't have phrased it like that.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
January 23 2014 11:30 GMT
#11250
Right, I understand. I meant that some careers are computer games, others are real world adventures. In games type careers you're more or less guaranteed to keep progressing and moving forward in the levels. There is a system already in place, you merely enter the system and progress through it. Risk is not something inherent in these.

Adventures can go wrong. Success is not guaranteed in adventures. They are inherently risky.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 23 2014 12:34 GMT
#11251
WTF WENGER?!

Arsene Wenger says the transfer of Juan Mata from Chelsea to Man Utd lacks "Fairness"


WUT? Man up you sausage >.<
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
January 23 2014 13:56 GMT
#11252
Rosell most likely to leave Barcelona's presidence tonight! Happy days friends!
Bartomeu should be his successor until June and the new elections. To all those who doubted that Neymar costed a lot more than what they said... :D
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 23 2014 13:58 GMT
#11253
A Spanish judge agreed on Wednesday to hear a lawsuit brought by a Barcelona club member against president Sandro Rosell regarding the cost of the transfer for Brazil striker Neymar.


On Monday, Rosell insisted the total cost of 57 million euros (then $74-million) to bring Neymar from Brazilian club Santos announced at the player’s presentation last June was correct.

Cases alleges the amount paid by the Spanish champions was higher.

Cases told El Pais newspaper on Monday “the lawsuit is against Rosell, not against Barca.”

“We don’t think that somebody kept the money,” Cases said. “We only want to know how they account for the expenditures, because it isn’t clear.”

Barcelona is owned by its more than 160,000 members, who elect a president and governing board. Barcelona earned 483 million euros ($643-million) in revenue in 2011-12, second only to fierce rival Real Madrid, according to accountancy firm Deloitte.


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ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 23 2014 14:15 GMT
#11254
If the surplus for the Neymar signing means Rosell gets the fuck out, it's money well spent lol.
Revolutionist fan
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
January 23 2014 14:54 GMT
#11255
On January 23 2014 19:43 warding wrote:
Just to point out that being a surgeon is close to a risk-free career - you study to become one and you have a guaranteed high paying job for the rest of your professional career. There is a ton of risk in trying to be a football player and only a small percentage of those who try end up actually making it. Those who make it then have a relatively short career.

Sacrificing your academic and social life as well as your youth for a return of 60k per year is relatively dumb. Sacrificing it for the small chance to be a superstar and earn millions makes more sense and seems fairer. I think the payoff is right.


If you try to be a football player and fail you will know by the time you're what, 21? Still plenty of time to make another career of yourself - I have a good friend who is a surgeon who decided to become one at 22.
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 15:09:38
January 23 2014 15:09 GMT
#11256
On January 23 2014 23:15 Salteador Neo wrote:
If the surplus for the Neymar signing means Rosell gets the fuck out, it's money well spent lol.


Yes. What a terrible president. In three years and He could't get a physical defender that replace Puyol.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 23 2014 15:12 GMT
#11257
The 2014 Deloitte Football Money League is out:

http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/uk/industries/sportsbusinessgroup/sports/football/deloitte-football-money-league/index.htm

The top 10:

1. Real Madrid: 518.9m euros
2. Barcelona: 482.6m euros
3. Bayern Munich: 431.2m euros
4. Man Utd: 423.8m euros
5. Paris Saint Germain; 398.8m euros
6. Manchester City: 316.2m euros
7. Chelsea: 303.4m euros
8. Arsenal: 284.3m euros
9. Juventus: 272.4m euros
10. AC Milan: 263.5m euros
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6306 Posts
January 23 2014 15:13 GMT
#11258
On January 23 2014 23:54 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 19:43 warding wrote:
Just to point out that being a surgeon is close to a risk-free career - you study to become one and you have a guaranteed high paying job for the rest of your professional career. There is a ton of risk in trying to be a football player and only a small percentage of those who try end up actually making it. Those who make it then have a relatively short career.

Sacrificing your academic and social life as well as your youth for a return of 60k per year is relatively dumb. Sacrificing it for the small chance to be a superstar and earn millions makes more sense and seems fairer. I think the payoff is right.


If you try to be a football player and fail you will know by the time you're what, 21? Still plenty of time to make another career of yourself - I have a good friend who is a surgeon who decided to become one at 22.

And even 60k a year might be worth it if you realise that the median wage in NL is 33.5k. And we're a country with quite high wages. It's not like you're unable to do any other work after you retired either.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 23 2014 15:16 GMT
#11259
in the US if you try to become a surgeon and fail, most likely by dropping out of med school, you end up with an enormous amount of debt that you most likely will never pay off.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
January 23 2014 15:16 GMT
#11260
By the way. Falcao has injured 6 months and He will not go to the World Cup.
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