On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote:
Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight.
Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight.
I think he's just tired. Probably not used to playing this much.
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Ferrose
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On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote: Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight. I think he's just tired. Probably not used to playing this much. | ||
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ZeroChrome
Canada1001 Posts
On November 11 2013 02:48 Ferrose wrote: About time Rooney gets booked. Had it coming for a while. Show nested quote + On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote: Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight. I think he's just tired. Probably not used to playing this much. I dont buy the 'tired' excuse. Ever. He's a professional athlete. Play at 100% or get off the fucking field. I dont care how good he is. That goes for every player. And by 100% I mean playing with every ounce of strength he has. Doesn't matter how sore or tired the players are, it's not an excuse for the lazy shift Ozil has put in on defense. | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote: Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight. Can say that about most of our players today. Looking very sluggish. Oh dear, here comes Bendtner. Well, if there's a time to start scoring again, it'd be now. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On November 11 2013 02:51 ZeroChrome wrote: Show nested quote + On November 11 2013 02:48 Ferrose wrote: About time Rooney gets booked. Had it coming for a while. On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote: Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight. I think he's just tired. Probably not used to playing this much. I dont buy the 'tired' excuse. Ever. He's a professional athlete. Play at 100% or get off the fucking field. I dont care how good he is. That goes for every player. What, so because he's a professional athlete, he has infinite endurance and can never get tired? Everyone's body has its limits, and even the most fit people would be worn out playing 90 minutes every 3-4 days while travelling across Europe. The reason why I said he's probably not used to playing this much is because he didn't play this much with Real Madrid. He got rotated more (since they have a deeper squad) and was subbed off a lot since Real would usually be winning anyway. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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ZeroChrome
Canada1001 Posts
On November 11 2013 02:55 Ferrose wrote: Show nested quote + On November 11 2013 02:51 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:48 Ferrose wrote: About time Rooney gets booked. Had it coming for a while. On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote: Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight. I think he's just tired. Probably not used to playing this much. I dont buy the 'tired' excuse. Ever. He's a professional athlete. Play at 100% or get off the fucking field. I dont care how good he is. That goes for every player. What, so because he's a professional athlete, he has infinite endurance and can never get tired? Everyone's body has its limits, and even the most fit people would be worn out playing 90 minutes every 3-4 days while travelling across Europe. The reason why I said he's probably not used to playing this much is because he didn't play this much with Real Madrid. He got rotated more (since they have a deeper squad) and was subbed off a lot since Real would usually be winning anyway. See my edit. It's less about the amount of running than the effort put in. He's been lazy. | ||
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NuclearJudas
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On November 11 2013 02:55 evilfatsh1t wrote: man giroud is having a really bad game He wasn't good against Dortmund either, looked like an amateur next to Lewandowski imo. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On November 11 2013 02:56 ZeroChrome wrote: Show nested quote + On November 11 2013 02:55 Ferrose wrote: On November 11 2013 02:51 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:48 Ferrose wrote: About time Rooney gets booked. Had it coming for a while. On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote: Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight. I think he's just tired. Probably not used to playing this much. I dont buy the 'tired' excuse. Ever. He's a professional athlete. Play at 100% or get off the fucking field. I dont care how good he is. That goes for every player. What, so because he's a professional athlete, he has infinite endurance and can never get tired? Everyone's body has its limits, and even the most fit people would be worn out playing 90 minutes every 3-4 days while travelling across Europe. The reason why I said he's probably not used to playing this much is because he didn't play this much with Real Madrid. He got rotated more (since they have a deeper squad) and was subbed off a lot since Real would usually be winning anyway. See my edit. It's less about the amount of running than the effort put in. He's been lazy. He has a reputation for that, though I haven't really been seeing it since he joined Arsenal. His work rate was phenomenal against Dortmund the other day, for example. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28792 Posts
On November 11 2013 02:56 ZeroChrome wrote: Show nested quote + On November 11 2013 02:55 Ferrose wrote: On November 11 2013 02:51 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:48 Ferrose wrote: About time Rooney gets booked. Had it coming for a while. On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote: Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight. I think he's just tired. Probably not used to playing this much. I dont buy the 'tired' excuse. Ever. He's a professional athlete. Play at 100% or get off the fucking field. I dont care how good he is. That goes for every player. What, so because he's a professional athlete, he has infinite endurance and can never get tired? Everyone's body has its limits, and even the most fit people would be worn out playing 90 minutes every 3-4 days while travelling across Europe. The reason why I said he's probably not used to playing this much is because he didn't play this much with Real Madrid. He got rotated more (since they have a deeper squad) and was subbed off a lot since Real would usually be winning anyway. See my edit. It's less about the amount of running than the effort put in. He's been lazy. yeah, he probably just doesn't care about what is arguably the most important game so far through the season..? he's having an off day for sure, but surely you don't think that today, suddenly, he decided to stop trying and giving it his best? He's been absolutely phenomenal so far this season, it seems weird to attack his character when he's having one of if not the worst match so far, rather than to try to find some reasonable, outside explanation. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On November 11 2013 03:00 Liquid`Drone wrote: Show nested quote + On November 11 2013 02:56 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:55 Ferrose wrote: On November 11 2013 02:51 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:48 Ferrose wrote: About time Rooney gets booked. Had it coming for a while. On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote: Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight. I think he's just tired. Probably not used to playing this much. I dont buy the 'tired' excuse. Ever. He's a professional athlete. Play at 100% or get off the fucking field. I dont care how good he is. That goes for every player. What, so because he's a professional athlete, he has infinite endurance and can never get tired? Everyone's body has its limits, and even the most fit people would be worn out playing 90 minutes every 3-4 days while travelling across Europe. The reason why I said he's probably not used to playing this much is because he didn't play this much with Real Madrid. He got rotated more (since they have a deeper squad) and was subbed off a lot since Real would usually be winning anyway. See my edit. It's less about the amount of running than the effort put in. He's been lazy. yeah, he probably just doesn't care about what is arguably the most important game so far through the season..? he's having an off day for sure, but surely you don't think that today, suddenly, he decided to stop trying and giving it his best? He's been absolutely phenomenal so far this season, it seems weird to attack his character when he's having one of if not the worst match so far, rather than to try to find some reasonable, outside explanation. To be fair the Dortmund game was arguably much more important, the Arsenal players put a lot into that I am sure. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On November 11 2013 03:02 Maenander wrote: Show nested quote + On November 11 2013 03:00 Liquid`Drone wrote: On November 11 2013 02:56 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:55 Ferrose wrote: On November 11 2013 02:51 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:48 Ferrose wrote: About time Rooney gets booked. Had it coming for a while. On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote: Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight. I think he's just tired. Probably not used to playing this much. I dont buy the 'tired' excuse. Ever. He's a professional athlete. Play at 100% or get off the fucking field. I dont care how good he is. That goes for every player. What, so because he's a professional athlete, he has infinite endurance and can never get tired? Everyone's body has its limits, and even the most fit people would be worn out playing 90 minutes every 3-4 days while travelling across Europe. The reason why I said he's probably not used to playing this much is because he didn't play this much with Real Madrid. He got rotated more (since they have a deeper squad) and was subbed off a lot since Real would usually be winning anyway. See my edit. It's less about the amount of running than the effort put in. He's been lazy. yeah, he probably just doesn't care about what is arguably the most important game so far through the season..? he's having an off day for sure, but surely you don't think that today, suddenly, he decided to stop trying and giving it his best? He's been absolutely phenomenal so far this season, it seems weird to attack his character when he's having one of if not the worst match so far, rather than to try to find some reasonable, outside explanation. To be fair the Dortmund game was arguably much more important, the Arsenal players put a lot into that I am sure. European hangover is a thing ![]() | ||
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ZeroChrome
Canada1001 Posts
On November 11 2013 03:00 Liquid`Drone wrote: Show nested quote + On November 11 2013 02:56 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:55 Ferrose wrote: On November 11 2013 02:51 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:48 Ferrose wrote: About time Rooney gets booked. Had it coming for a while. On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote: Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight. I think he's just tired. Probably not used to playing this much. I dont buy the 'tired' excuse. Ever. He's a professional athlete. Play at 100% or get off the fucking field. I dont care how good he is. That goes for every player. What, so because he's a professional athlete, he has infinite endurance and can never get tired? Everyone's body has its limits, and even the most fit people would be worn out playing 90 minutes every 3-4 days while travelling across Europe. The reason why I said he's probably not used to playing this much is because he didn't play this much with Real Madrid. He got rotated more (since they have a deeper squad) and was subbed off a lot since Real would usually be winning anyway. See my edit. It's less about the amount of running than the effort put in. He's been lazy. yeah, he probably just doesn't care about what is arguably the most important game so far through the season..? he's having an off day for sure, but surely you don't think that today, suddenly, he decided to stop trying and giving it his best? He's been absolutely phenomenal so far this season, it seems weird to attack his character when he's having one of if not the worst match so far, rather than to try to find some reasonable, outside explanation. I'm sure he cares about seeing his name up in lights for scoring a game winning freekick. Not to sure about his willingness to go into a challenge or win a header. Just look at that run he made between the defenders earlier on. The ball sailed past him and he didnt even try to stretch and get his head on it right in front of goal. Giroud did the same thing for some reason. Anyways the whole team basically sucked. Missed Mertesacker to clear away that near post corner that RVP scored on, and imo Rosicky is absolutely vital to the team. He is the player who makes the whole team play towards the other teams goal instead of sideways, and despite being 33 his energy is fantastic. Wilshere is the same way, but obviously not fit. Vermaelen, Flamini, and Arteta weren't bad. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On November 11 2013 03:03 Ferrose wrote: Show nested quote + On November 11 2013 03:02 Maenander wrote: On November 11 2013 03:00 Liquid`Drone wrote: On November 11 2013 02:56 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:55 Ferrose wrote: On November 11 2013 02:51 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:48 Ferrose wrote: About time Rooney gets booked. Had it coming for a while. On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote: Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight. I think he's just tired. Probably not used to playing this much. I dont buy the 'tired' excuse. Ever. He's a professional athlete. Play at 100% or get off the fucking field. I dont care how good he is. That goes for every player. What, so because he's a professional athlete, he has infinite endurance and can never get tired? Everyone's body has its limits, and even the most fit people would be worn out playing 90 minutes every 3-4 days while travelling across Europe. The reason why I said he's probably not used to playing this much is because he didn't play this much with Real Madrid. He got rotated more (since they have a deeper squad) and was subbed off a lot since Real would usually be winning anyway. See my edit. It's less about the amount of running than the effort put in. He's been lazy. yeah, he probably just doesn't care about what is arguably the most important game so far through the season..? he's having an off day for sure, but surely you don't think that today, suddenly, he decided to stop trying and giving it his best? He's been absolutely phenomenal so far this season, it seems weird to attack his character when he's having one of if not the worst match so far, rather than to try to find some reasonable, outside explanation. To be fair the Dortmund game was arguably much more important, the Arsenal players put a lot into that I am sure. European hangover is a thing ![]() Just ask Dortmund ![]() | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28792 Posts
On November 11 2013 03:02 Maenander wrote: Show nested quote + On November 11 2013 03:00 Liquid`Drone wrote: On November 11 2013 02:56 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:55 Ferrose wrote: On November 11 2013 02:51 ZeroChrome wrote: On November 11 2013 02:48 Ferrose wrote: About time Rooney gets booked. Had it coming for a while. On November 11 2013 02:44 ZeroChrome wrote: Ozil has been SO poor today. Lack of fight. I think he's just tired. Probably not used to playing this much. I dont buy the 'tired' excuse. Ever. He's a professional athlete. Play at 100% or get off the fucking field. I dont care how good he is. That goes for every player. What, so because he's a professional athlete, he has infinite endurance and can never get tired? Everyone's body has its limits, and even the most fit people would be worn out playing 90 minutes every 3-4 days while travelling across Europe. The reason why I said he's probably not used to playing this much is because he didn't play this much with Real Madrid. He got rotated more (since they have a deeper squad) and was subbed off a lot since Real would usually be winning anyway. See my edit. It's less about the amount of running than the effort put in. He's been lazy. yeah, he probably just doesn't care about what is arguably the most important game so far through the season..? he's having an off day for sure, but surely you don't think that today, suddenly, he decided to stop trying and giving it his best? He's been absolutely phenomenal so far this season, it seems weird to attack his character when he's having one of if not the worst match so far, rather than to try to find some reasonable, outside explanation. To be fair the Dortmund game was arguably much more important, the Arsenal players put a lot into that I am sure. yea maybe the dortmund game was even more important. and the previous game vs liverpool was also really really important. personally I'd probably rank this one as #1 because arsenal couldve gotten a 7+ point lead against most of the other top contenders, their matches against manchester united are typically the most important through the PL season, and I think arsenal cares more about PL than CL this season. But this just serves to explain why Özil is currently tired and playing below his par. But calling him lazy for having a bad game just seems kinda silly to me - lazy isn't something you suddenly become or suddenly stop being. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Juventus vs Napoli 19:45 GMT (+00:00) If anyone still needs some football fix! | ||
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![]() Edit: Wow Juve-Napoli. Should be a great game! So should Villarreal-Atletico. | ||
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