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Argh, what are the Bobcats doing?! Al Jeff is high on the list of most overrated players in the NBA.
But to make things worse, they committed to a rebuild after realising they were spinning their wheels and now with the huge 2014 draft in sight they go and sign a guy who is going to hurt the tank this year? They've been disciplined, albeit unsuccessful thus far, with their rebuild and now they've seemingly got sick of it after only two seasons and go back to their bad old habits by signing middle of the road talent that will condemn them to mediocrity?
MJ has to be driving this. I can't see Cho whiffing so badly on this one.
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That Big Al-Cody Zeller front court is gonna be lethal, can't wait for all that unathleticism.
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Warriors still uber-keen to sign Dwight.
But apparently Lakers have no interest in an S&T. Apparently even taking on say Bogut and Barnes would cost them $76 mill in lux tax (FWIW, Kobe's contract alone is taking up over half the Lakers' salary cap. Wow).
So the Dubs need to shed ~$32 mill to sign Dwight. This means they need to shed Bogut, R Jeff and Biedrens' contracts to sign Dwight outright. Trading Bogut for cap space should be doable but is there any chance in hell they can ship R Jeff and Biedrens without losing Klay/Barnes (or both?!).
I think GSW really appeals to Dwight but short of gutting their roster I just don't think, logistically, that it can happen.
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On July 05 2013 09:30 seiferoth10 wrote:
That Big Al-Cody Zeller front court is gonna be lethal, can't wait for all that unathleticism.
The only reason I can see for this is that Al Jeff's contract brings them up to the salary floor for the next couple of years. Perhaps they think that the team is so bad that adding Al won't really stop them being a top five lotto team.
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On July 05 2013 09:34 RowdierBob wrote:
I think GSW really appeals to Dwight but short of gutting their roster I just don't think, logistically, that it can happen.
i don't know why lakers would S&T with a team in their own freaken division lol. i just don't see it happening unless it's like curry or thompson + bogut and 1st rounder...
nice work amnestying charlie bell :S biedrins and RJ is $20M this year. WTFFFFFFFFF
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The problem the Dubs have is shedding R Jeff and Biedrens. It's simply not enough to just package them with what would be a low pick. Teams may as well just buy a low pick for the going rate of $3 mill rather than take on those bloated contracts (albeit expirings). I can't see them getting a deal done without giving up Klay or Barnes. If they still had that amnesty they wasted on Charlie Bell then I think this would be a fait accompli.
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On July 05 2013 10:54 RowdierBob wrote:
The problem the Dubs have is shedding R Jeff and Biedrens. It's simply not enough to just package them with what would be a low pick. Teams may as well just buy a low pick for the going rate of $3 mill rather than take on those bloated contracts (albeit expirings). I can't see them getting a deal done without giving up Klay or Barnes. If they still had that amnesty they wasted on Charlie Bell then I think this would be a fait accompli.
agreed. for each contract they want to offload they'll need to package a barnes or klay. losing klay would be huge and kinda undermines the premise of dwight playing there. most other teams will see through and know that the dubs are cuffed with their options
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they can't offset those players, they have terrible salaries and nobody would be dumb enough to blindly help GSW by taking on bad contracts so they can get dwight :p
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al jeff is going to be a fantasy stud next season
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On July 05 2013 11:03 Xeris wrote:
they can't offset those players, they have terrible salaries and nobody would be dumb enough to blindly help GSW by taking on bad contracts so they can get dwight :p
There may be some teams willing to take on R Jeff and Biedrens if they can get a genuine upside young talent like Barnes or Klay. I wouldn't write this off but it seems like the Dubs are adamant on keeping both their young guys. In that case, packaging their bad contracts with just picks probably isn't going to be enough.
If they were high picks then maybe but if the Dubs gets Dwight, those picks will likely be 20+ and then you might as well just buy picks in that range rather than taking on stupid contracts (expirings or not).
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On July 05 2013 11:28 RowdierBob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 11:03 Xeris wrote:
they can't offset those players, they have terrible salaries and nobody would be dumb enough to blindly help GSW by taking on bad contracts so they can get dwight :p There may be some teams willing to take on R Jeff and Biedrens if they can get a genuine upside young talent like Barnes or Klay. I wouldn't write this off but it seems like the Dubs are adamant on keeping both their young guys. In that case, packaging their bad contracts with just picks probably isn't going to be enough. If they were high picks then maybe but if the Dubs gets Dwight, those picks will likely be 20+ and then you might as well just buy picks in that range rather than taking on stupid contracts (expirings or not).
That only works if the team receiving the albatross is so under the cap that they can absorb the entirety of the sum+Barnes (or whoever) without sending back any salary. Very implausible.
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There are a few teams who could facilitate it but, yes, the market is skinny.
I think Milwaukee could do it. Cavs, Hawks too I think? You'd need a team with about $23mill in cap space.
I had a look. These are the teams I think have the space:
Bucks
Hawks
Cavs
Jazz
Dallas
Philly
Not 100% sure on that though. I know the Bucks and Jazz def could. Not completely sure on the others.
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The Lakers could, hypothetically, be pushing for Minny's spot as the whitest team in the NBA next year. =D
PG: Nash
SG: Kobe
SF: Klay T
PF: Gasol
C: Bogut
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The great white hope...and the mamba.
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I'm sure the Hawks could do it, I think they're under 30 million. But even if the salary cap is 59 million this season, you're looking at very few teams, and any team that did that move would be cosigning its fans to a tragedy and it's owner to $20 million dollars of pure sunk cost. I don't see it happening, personally.
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The sell could be made. You have a major upside talent in someone like Klay or Barnes to add to your core.
You could then spin the fact that it is only one year of Jeff/Biedrens at which point you have $20mill of additional cap space for the mega 2014 draft class.
For teams like the Bucks, Hawks, Jazz who really aren't going anywhere in 2014 anyway, taking on some crappy short-term contracts for long-term gain would be the sell I'd go for. Imagine for Utah as an example. You get court time for Favors and Kanter; you add a high upside young guy in Klay or Barnes to your core and you then have cap flexibility for 2014 + a pretty decent pick in the 2014 draft by virtue of sucking in 2013-14.
I agree, I don't see it happening; I think Dwight will re-sign with LA or go to Houston. But there must be some solid intel in Dwight liking GSW for it to develop like this.
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Wow, maybe it will happen?
From what I'm told, should Howard decide on GST, & LA is unwilling 2 sign-trade, it has teams willing 2 assume salaries of AB, Biedrins & RJ [per Peter Vecsey]
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On July 05 2013 09:30 seiferoth10 wrote:
That Big Al-Cody Zeller front court is gonna be lethal, can't wait for all that unathleticism.
good call, apart from the fact that Zeller is very athletic.
No idea why they would sign Jefferson, although I don't think he'll make them any less awful anyway so still should get a high draft pick next year. Often thought Utah was better when he was on the bench last year.
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Gonna be so awkward at Dubs' next training if this doesn't go through. Haha.
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is klay thompson that good? He basically had a season long shooting slump last year.
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EPT
