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AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
June 19 2013 14:25 GMT
#1741
Like most I didnt even see that but the screen from Splitter was insane :D

Good case of play on though. Glad they didnt call any of that.
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
June 19 2013 14:38 GMT
#1742
On June 19 2013 20:26 icystorage wrote:
im really fucking pissed at the casuals saying the series was rigged or scripted. "fans" just showing up when the playoffs start.

how can the fucking game be rigged? its like the players can just turn on/off their shooting as they desire


I'm actually quite amazed at several non- BBall watchers I know who watched the game and are legitimately claiming the same thing.

Amazing game, and glad there's a game 7.
Forever Young
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 19 2013 14:39 GMT
#1743
SIgh. I'm so sad the Spurs lost that game. I agree with whoever said they're in trouble for Game 7... but I hope they can pull it out. Please Spurs, just one more game.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 14:55:40
June 19 2013 14:49 GMT
#1744
That was an all time great game but....

As a Spurs fan that game was devastating. I can't remember the last time I was so upset by a game. Going into the 4th quarter with a 10 point lead only to blow it 6min in is one thing. However to have a FIVE point lead with 28 seconds left to win the world title and losing is fucking unacceptable. A major choke. That sequence was like a perfect storm of fuck ups.

Kawhai makes his FT, this game is over. If they get the first offensive rebound, James doesn't make the first 3. If they get the second offensive rebound, Allen doesn't make his 3. And ofc the best rebounder the Spurs have is sitting on the bench for both plays.

However I think I'm more upset at the first 6 min of the 4th quarter. You build this huge 12 pt lead with 12min left and you send in Manu and Splitter, who up to that point were playing like the MVPs for the Heat team. Manus play last night was disgusting. Every time he moved with the ball I was screaming at my TV as he was actively hurting the Spurs and keeping the Spurs lead from getting out of hand. Ginobli deserves the bulk of the blame for the Spurs lost. Period, end of story.

What really bothers me though is how long Duncan and Parker sat. I mean this is literally 13 minutes to win the fucking world title. Are you telling me Parker really can't play FOUR more minutes when he has to? They had a fucking 9 day rest! Also, he wasn't even sweating on the sideline he look bored for fucks sake! Ofc by having Manu and Splitter on the floor, combined with Green picking a horrible game to go cold = lead evaporates and gives Miami momentum.

This shit should have never gone to OT. I'll be with family and won't be able to watch game 7, but I have very little confidence that Spurs can win that game. This sort of game has to be hugely demoralizing + the Heat are great in close out games AND in the history of the league with 2-3-2 format, no team has EVER won game 7 on the road. Everything is looking like there is no reason for that to change. If the Spurs lose this series that last quarter, and especially those last 28 seconds, will (rightfully) haunt the players and Pop for the rest of their lives. They've lived on execution, free throws and discipline all year and ofc they lose all 3 when they need them most. Also, I feel like Pop out coached himself essentially. Relying too much on the bench in the most important part of the game + benching Duncan at the end. While these have worked in the past I feel like this moment called for something else. This moment called for the best PF of all time being on the floor and for the best playoff PG of this generation being on the fucking floor as well.

/rant
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 14:57:25
June 19 2013 14:51 GMT
#1745
On June 19 2013 23:24 Zorkmid wrote:
Watching these playoffs has made me realize how much better a playoff hockey game is to watch.

You and the other 20-30 people who watch agree =)

Off-topic: The balls on these CLips! It's actually surprising and a great thing to see. There is no way they should pass up on Doc Rivers because of a 2nd round pick or something stupid like that... but to actually front because they think they have the leverage is awesome to see.

Olshey was responsible for not letting Bledsoe get away in the CP3 trade and now look at how valuable that could turn out. But Olshey is gone now and whoever is running things, if they get this deal done, will have impressed me at least. Doc Rivers as coach is so legitimate it will have to stop all the Clipper jokes around here I think.

If they can flip Griffin and Bledsoe for Howard to put with KG (makes sense to both teams). Their defense would just be 0.0
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 19 2013 15:03 GMT
#1746
What really bothers me though is how long Duncan and Parker sat. I mean this is literally 13 minutes to win the fucking world title. Are you telling me Parker really can't play FOUR more minutes when he has to? They had a fucking 9 day rest! Also, he wasn't even sweating on the sideline he look bored for fucks sake! Ofc by having Manu and Splitter on the floor, combined with Green picking a horrible game to go cold = lead evaporates and gives Miami momentum.


I think Parker was legitimately cramping and Duncan looked visibly tired while playing in the second half.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 15:12:59
June 19 2013 15:09 GMT
#1747
Duncan sitting for the start of the 4th can be better explained than Parker. Splitter wasn't nearly as bad as Manu and can play a competent center. Concerning Duncan I'm more baffled with him sitting for the final 2 plays. In hindsight him not being there almost certainly lost the Spurs this game (he would have gotten one of those rebounds OR at least not allowed Lebron the easy dunk). Looking at it from Pops point of view, he wanted to go small but it seems like there were so many important points in the game where they didn't get offensive rebounds. It's not like Duncan is going play so far off to give up a 3. Rather forcing them into a 2pter probably wins the game for the Spurs....

What's disappointing is that Popovich seemingly always talks about basketball not being complicated and just being what it is and going with the flow. He should have trusted the best power forward of all time to do the right thing.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 19 2013 15:32 GMT
#1748
some terrible coaching down the stretch wow. These are supposed to be two of the best in the business and the mistakes they made in the 4th quarter/OT were just mind boggling. Just goes to show how far coaching can still go in the NBA, it's easily the worst coached professional league atm
I come in for the scraps
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 16:05:27
June 19 2013 15:58 GMT
#1749
On June 20 2013 00:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
some terrible coaching down the stretch wow. These are supposed to be two of the best in the business and the mistakes they made in the 4th quarter/OT were just mind boggling. Just goes to show how far coaching can still go in the NBA, it's easily the worst coached professional league atm

Care to enlighten us with some examples?

Love this quote from Ray Allen, specially if you pay attention to how he looked like a dancer doing his steps out there on the court to get the shot off: “When I saw [Bosh] get the ball, I just backpedaled right to the three-point line, and I was hoping I was where I needed to be,” Allen said. “I wasn’t quite sure. But just from years of shooting, I got to my spot. … I just knew get to the three-point line. We need a three. Two points isn’t going to cut it.”
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 19 2013 15:59 GMT
#1750
dont understand people complaining about duncan. heat were obviously going for the three so pops went small to defend that. he still kawai out there, who obviously would have filled the role 'rebound guy'. its just unfortunate the plan didnt work out.

also queue lebron headband anime power level reference
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 19 2013 16:03 GMT
#1751
On June 20 2013 00:58 MassHysteria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 00:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
some terrible coaching down the stretch wow. These are supposed to be two of the best in the business and the mistakes they made in the 4th quarter/OT were just mind boggling. Just goes to show how far coaching can still go in the NBA, it's easily the worst coached professional league atm

Care to enlighten us with some examples?


most have been gone over in the thread, didnt think I needed to

Spoelstra going back to the shitty dwade/bosh/lebron line-up that's been getting tooled on all game. If not for some miracle plays they lose it in the 4th going back to that terrible line-up for no reason. If it aint broke dont fix it.

Pop taking out duncan at the end of the 4th. Didn't we learn anything from the taking out Hibbert game? Apparently not. You need a presence down there to rebound/rim protect at the end of the game. Ducan is more than capable of defending just as well as whoever they had out there so I just don't get it.

Pop keeping in Ginobli that late. He's playing like trash, there is no reason for him to be in the game. He does a terrible cross court pass and creates yet another turnover.

etc etc
I come in for the scraps
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 16:15:38
June 19 2013 16:07 GMT
#1752
On June 20 2013 00:59 a176 wrote:
dont understand people complaining about duncan. heat were obviously going for the three so pops went small to defend that. he still kawai out there, who obviously would have filled the role 'rebound guy'. its just unfortunate the plan didnt work out.

also queue lebron headband anime power level reference

It's cue, man. Queue is a line in which people wait.

And yeah, it's easy to criticize after the fact. As a general, non basketball specific statement, fans will always say whatever's most "obviously" good should be done; it's up to the coaches to pick the few but crucial times less expected players will pull through. (Reminds me of FPL and SPL overall )
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 19 2013 16:14 GMT
#1753
I'm not saying Allen hacked Manu on the last play...

...but Allen totally hacked Manu on the last play. :p
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 16:25:56
June 19 2013 16:23 GMT
#1754
nah that was a terrible joke to make.
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 16:49:10
June 19 2013 16:32 GMT
#1755
Probably the best game I have ever watched since I started actually following the NBA in 2001 and began to understand basketball. Players from both sides left every ounce of energy out there.

There were so many iconic moments, including but not limited to Miller's one shoe three pointer, LeBron the headband-less monster with force-of-nature determination, Parker's supernatural powers down the stretch, Duncan's vintage 2003 destruction, Bosh's well-deserved redemption, and of course, Ray's three from the corner.

I am rooting for the Heat, but as a basketball fan, I am ECSTATIC there is a Game 7.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 19 2013 16:35 GMT
#1756
Fucking incredible game. I'm so happy ><

Must be really hard on SA fans I don't think we should count them out just yet though. Have a feeling they're really gonna bring it for sure.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
June 19 2013 17:08 GMT
#1757
I was so frustrated when Spurs lost last night, but I can now admit it was a great game. I think SA still got this in Game 7!
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 17:35:16
June 19 2013 17:33 GMT
#1758
how do spurs fans still manage to complain about the refs when they gave you so many calls? a lot of bullshit calls to top it off. stfu already with that. heat beat you, and they beat the shit officiating.

on another note, wtf happened to this website last night? i come on here to try to discuss the best game of the decade and the site is down? that sucked.

oh and another thing, why did they review Allen's shot if the spurs did'nt even have a timeout? It was a legit shot, but still, popovich asked for review and he got it, on what grounds?
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 19 2013 17:44 GMT
#1759
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 17:46:46
June 19 2013 17:45 GMT
#1760
On June 20 2013 02:33 HeavenS wrote:
oh and another thing, why did they review Allen's shot if the spurs did'nt even have a timeout? It was a legit shot, but still, popovich asked for review and he got it, on what grounds?

I don't think Popovich asked for it. In fact, I'm pretty sure he was pissed about it because he wanted to be able to push the ball and the replay helped the Heat set up. On the other hand, it also let him (illegally) put Duncan in the game so it goes both ways.

How quickly everyone's sentiments change. The Spurs look tired but "spirits broken" is just a narrative. They'll have as much chance to win Game 7 as they did 1/2/3/4/5/6.

And I think something went wrong with the site last night and the host company did a crappy job dealing with it. I was sad it was down for most of the game too.
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