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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
May 02 2013 05:11 GMT
#1001
Watching Gillis dumb, drunk face grow sadder and sadder is great, and if there is a silver lining for Luongo is that the odds of him being traded for something reasonable instead of one of Gillis' mad demands is rising. Luongo to Toronto for a 2nd round and some 3rd pairing D men and everyone gets a fresh start. And then Canuck fans can ride Corey out of town in another year or two as is their way.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 02 2013 05:35 GMT
#1002
The problem with Luongo is his cap hit. He is way overpaid for how good he is. No team is going to pay a premium for that ridiculous contract.

In other news, suck it, Canucks. 1-0 Sharks!
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
May 02 2013 09:45 GMT
#1003
the cap hit is only 4.5. the issue is length but with the Canucks already having paid out to him 10m or so for the last 3-4 years, the last years are actually reasonable. If I was Florida or Tampa I'd take a run at him. His real problem is that Nonis thinks he is a lot smarter than he is.
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8909 Posts
May 02 2013 14:33 GMT
#1004
On May 02 2013 09:39 Sub40APM wrote:
what makes you think CTV is going to do any better? TSN is as mediocre as the CBC crew. The real problem is that as in most Canadian institutions you have an old guard that is way past its prime and only a string of funerals will move forward the state of broadcasting.


Personally, I think TSN has a much better coverage team. While certainly far from perfect, they win out by virtue of how shitty the competition is - there is no one employed at TSN who even remotely approaches the asinine idiocy of guys like Glenn Healy, PJ Stock and Don Cherry. CBC has one good announcer in Jim Hughson, two decent interviewers in Scott Oak (who is hilarious) and Kelly Hrudey, and one decent analyst in Elliot Friedman. All of whom would likely join CTV/TSN if hockey moves there entirely.

The thing is, I love the CBC. I just cannot stand hearing guys like Healy/Stock/Cherry talk about hockey. It ruins the experience.

Just my opinion.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8909 Posts
May 02 2013 17:52 GMT
#1005
Leafs getting taken apart in the Globe:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/mirtle-leafs-central-weakness-exposed-by-bruins/article11675693/

No team in recent memory has had as good a record as the Leafs did this season when being out shot by an average five or more a game.

More advanced shot differential numbers, like Corsi or Fenwick – which incorporate missed shots and/or blocked shots – are even more highly predictive of teams’ future success or failure, and the Leafs have posted some of the worst numbers of any club in that department in the past five or six years.


And time for...

The funny thing about shot differentials in hockey is that traditionally they haven’t been considered a key statistic, with many around the game using anecdotal evidence and recalling games where teams are outshot but found a way to win.

But in the NHL over the past decade, having a positive shot differential in a season has correlated pretty strongly with winning, to the point that it’s a better relationship to being a good or bad team than having a strong or weak power play, penalty kill or team save percentage.


Time to bring up some outliers or small-sample anecdotal garbage to explain how the Leafs are number one best team ever.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
May 02 2013 17:56 GMT
#1006
On May 03 2013 02:52 Flaccid wrote:
Leafs getting taken apart in the Globe:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/mirtle-leafs-central-weakness-exposed-by-bruins/article11675693/

Show nested quote +
No team in recent memory has had as good a record as the Leafs did this season when being out shot by an average five or more a game.

More advanced shot differential numbers, like Corsi or Fenwick – which incorporate missed shots and/or blocked shots – are even more highly predictive of teams’ future success or failure, and the Leafs have posted some of the worst numbers of any club in that department in the past five or six years.


And time for...

Show nested quote +
The funny thing about shot differentials in hockey is that traditionally they haven’t been considered a key statistic, with many around the game using anecdotal evidence and recalling games where teams are outshot but found a way to win.

But in the NHL over the past decade, having a positive shot differential in a season has correlated pretty strongly with winning, to the point that it’s a better relationship to being a good or bad team than having a strong or weak power play, penalty kill or team save percentage.


Time to bring up some outliers or small-sample anecdotal garbage to explain how the Leafs are number one best team ever.

thats weird, because Brian Burke keeps saying how statistics are meaningless and moneyball ruined baseball and truculence!
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 02 2013 18:03 GMT
#1007
I love hockey, but damn does it ever come across as being an "intellectually bereft" sport sometimes when discussed by commentators and analysts. When talking about a game, they always talk about some intangible bullshit like "Player X has to dig deep" or "Team Y is working hard out there." There's almost never any real discussion about strategy, tactics, or anything tangible. If I didn't know better, I'd conclude that coaching hockey basically boils down to an exercise in motivational speaking.
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8909 Posts
May 02 2013 18:29 GMT
#1008
On May 03 2013 03:03 xDaunt wrote:
I love hockey, but damn does it ever come across as being an "intellectually bereft" sport sometimes when discussed by commentators and analysts. When talking about a game, they always talk about some intangible bullshit like "Player X has to dig deep" or "Team Y is working hard out there." There's almost never any real discussion about strategy, tactics, or anything tangible. If I didn't know better, I'd conclude that coaching hockey basically boils down to an exercise in motivational speaking.


The best is when they key in on a player to show how awesome of a night he is having based on like one shift where he did one thing like block a pass with his face. And then it turns out this "beauty player" is an absolute anchor when on the ice and is killing his team's overall performance. But hey, one play, saw it good, so whatever.

Like Don Cherry did when talking about Ryan Johnson - statistically the worst puck-possession player in the league for several seasons.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
May 02 2013 19:09 GMT
#1009
gonna be there to root for my Habs. Gonna be sick at the Decibell Centre!!
@ggmonx
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 02 2013 23:01 GMT
#1010
Andrew Ference gets a one game suspention for that? At the absolute most (and minimum) its 2min for elbowing IMO.

More proof that Shanahan's hammer swings are completly random and not worth guessing...
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 02 2013 23:21 GMT
#1011
popping in to agree that the Sharks broadcast team is routinely entertaining
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 02 2013 23:32 GMT
#1012
Local teams are generally much better then the national ones. The Red Wings team is freaking fantastic. Mickey Redmond FTW!
Never Knows Best.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 03 2013 01:01 GMT
#1013
On May 03 2013 08:32 Slaughter wrote:
Local teams are generally much better then the national ones. The Red Wings team is freaking fantastic. Mickey Redmond FTW!

Yeah, the Wings have a good tandem, too. However, there are a lot of really boring and stale local announcers, too. The biggest obstacle to me getting into the Avs (despite living out here and despite the team sucking) is that their TV announcers just suck. Totally vanilla and uninteresting.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 01:08:01
May 03 2013 01:07 GMT
#1014
On May 03 2013 08:32 Slaughter wrote:
Local teams are generally much better then the national ones. The Red Wings team is freaking fantastic. Mickey Redmond FTW!


I hate the MLB playoffs for that reason. I love the Tigers casters then in the playoffs we get to hear boring Joe Buck every game...

I guess that's what the mute button and a radio are for though.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 03 2013 01:12 GMT
#1015
On May 03 2013 10:01 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 08:32 Slaughter wrote:
Local teams are generally much better then the national ones. The Red Wings team is freaking fantastic. Mickey Redmond FTW!

Yeah, the Wings have a good tandem, too. However, there are a lot of really boring and stale local announcers, too. The biggest obstacle to me getting into the Avs (despite living out here and despite the team sucking) is that their TV announcers just suck. Totally vanilla and uninteresting.


To be fair there are only a handful of really good guys in the business. ;/ Have to deal with what you get.
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
May 03 2013 02:05 GMT
#1016
I have to listen to 80 year old Bob Cole comment on the Sens vs Habs series TT He mixes up players all the time and pretty sure he has Alzheimers. Oh well, go sens go! 1-0 so far in the series :D
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
Critter
Profile Joined January 2011
United States196 Posts
May 03 2013 02:24 GMT
#1017
On May 03 2013 11:05 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
I have to listen to 80 year old Bob Cole comment on the Sens vs Habs series TT He mixes up players all the time and pretty sure he has Alzheimers. Oh well, go sens go! 1-0 so far in the series :D


It is absolutely brutal to listen too. His anti-Ottawa bias is so bad...

Pretty bad game by Ottawa overall, Andy was the only reason we stuck in it. Hopefully our play improves next game and maybe, by some miracle, our PP finally figures out what the fuck it's doing.
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 03:28:40
May 03 2013 03:27 GMT
#1018
On May 02 2013 09:59 crazyweasel wrote:
LOL THE LEAF, who said they would 4-0 the bruins??? hahah

I've only read your past few posts but I get this sneaking suspicion that you're a Habs fan. I keep reading your posts as if you're that bitter Habs fan blowing leaves and complaining about the TML in that hilarious commercial ages ago


On May 02 2013 10:38 Taku wrote:
Leafs get as much sympathy from out west as we got from them against the bruins.
+ Show Spoiler +
Ha-Ha

pfft all you guys need to get into the first round or at least win a game before you can mock the Leafs


On May 03 2013 02:52 Flaccid wrote:
Leafs getting taken apart in the Globe:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/mirtle-leafs-central-weakness-exposed-by-bruins/article11675693/

Show nested quote +
No team in recent memory has had as good a record as the Leafs did this season when being out shot by an average five or more a game.

More advanced shot differential numbers, like Corsi or Fenwick – which incorporate missed shots and/or blocked shots – are even more highly predictive of teams’ future success or failure, and the Leafs have posted some of the worst numbers of any club in that department in the past five or six years.


And time for...

Show nested quote +
The funny thing about shot differentials in hockey is that traditionally they haven’t been considered a key statistic, with many around the game using anecdotal evidence and recalling games where teams are outshot but found a way to win.

But in the NHL over the past decade, having a positive shot differential in a season has correlated pretty strongly with winning, to the point that it’s a better relationship to being a good or bad team than having a strong or weak power play, penalty kill or team save percentage.


Time to bring up some outliers or small-sample anecdotal garbage to explain how the Leafs are number one best team ever.

Flaccid, my friend... nostalgia or not, I'd imagine Leaf fans are ultimately grateful that come golf season, we're not waking up in Edmonton
+ Show Spoiler +
<3


Oh and Leafs taking it 4-1
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 03:57:58
May 03 2013 03:35 GMT
#1019
So I noticed here's the great poll question ESPN has had up on the NHL page:

"Can the Penguins win their first-round playoff series against the Islanders without Sidney Crosby?"

Also, the Blues look really good so far to me.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
May 03 2013 04:03 GMT
#1020
On May 03 2013 12:35 ZapRoffo wrote:
So I noticed here's the great poll question ESPN has had up on the NHL page:

"Can the Penguins win their first-round playoff series against the Islanders without Sidney Crosby?"

Also, the Blues look really good so far to me.


I hope so, because I decided not to pick Crosby in my TSN playoff pool.
That would burn all the ones that did pick him for the first round
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