On September 05 2013 02:16 tofucake wrote:
Please miss days. Your body needs rest. Over training is bad.
Please miss days. Your body needs rest. Over training is bad.
Haha I dont think you need rest days after stretching :-p
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decafchicken
United States19932 Posts
On September 05 2013 02:16 tofucake wrote: Please miss days. Your body needs rest. Over training is bad. Haha I dont think you need rest days after stretching :-p | ||
Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
I went up to 165lbs yesterday and the lift was not good. I'd like to blame it on the lack of sleep that day (only had 3 hours...). Going by 3x5, the lift went 5/4/3. The 5th rep on the second set just wouldn't go up so I put the bar down on the safety rack. Third set was a disaster, on the third rep I did something like a good morning to get upright after driving myself up, is that bad? As in terms of getting injured I mean, because it looked and felt very ugly. It went: push up with my legs "struggle" then turn upright with my torso, instead of that smooth firm squatting motion. Then I dropped the weight and did another set which my lower back DID NOT appreciate for the next couple minutes. | ||
MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule18969 Posts
On September 06 2013 05:49 Snuggles wrote: I had some new found soreness yesterday right after squats. I went up to 165lbs yesterday and the lift was not good. I'd like to blame it on the lack of sleep that day (only had 3 hours...). Going by 3x5, the lift went 5/4/3. The 5th rep on the second set just wouldn't go up so I put the bar down on the safety rack. Third set was a disaster, on the third rep I did something like a good morning to get upright after driving myself up, is that bad? As in terms of getting injured I mean, because it looked and felt very ugly. It went: push up with my legs "struggle" then turn upright with my torso, instead of that smooth firm squatting motion. Then I dropped the weight and did another set which my lower back DID NOT appreciate for the next couple minutes. Don't blame it on lack of sleep. Blame it on lack of form. You should practice form such that it becomes instinctive, and you default to it even when fatigued or distracted. It shouldn't be something you need to consciously think about before every lift. tldr drop weight focus on form | ||
mordek
United States12704 Posts
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On September 06 2013 09:29 mordek wrote: Yeah, squat mornings no bueno. As mordek said, we call those squat mornings here (because they look like a mix between a squat and a good morning) and they're the result of a couple things: 1. Weak low back 2. losing tightness at the bottom of the movement 3. sitting back too far in the descent 4. letting the center of gravity come over your toes 5. not engaging the hips to get you out of the hole. the important thing to do to fix the problem is to think about bringing your hips forward to start your upward motion, rather than just thinking about extending your legs. You're probably not going to hurt yourself with them - I personally did them all the way from ~165 lbs up to ~235 before I realized the problem. Then I reset and fixed it... but you should fix it now, so that you don't have to reset so much. | ||
Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
As for #4 and #5, how does one bring one's hips forward without moving the weight over onto one's toes? | ||
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
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BenKen
United States860 Posts
On September 06 2013 19:35 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote: Girl behind me kept talked about "that hot huge guy". Turns out it's me #swag. U so sexy. Always feels good to catch someone 'mirin. @Osmoses I don't think you can indeed bring your hips forward without bringing the weight forward, unless you at the same time are making your back more vertical and have obscene ankle flexibility lol. Definately not a normal way of doing things. Sure you can, Rip calls it called hip drive! + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
My quads are still miserable after that squat session even with ample amounts of protein ;_; Going to go hard on core workouts and deadlifts today and tomorrow. | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule18969 Posts
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decafchicken
United States19932 Posts
On September 06 2013 22:43 tofucake wrote: foam roll And mobilize. And foam roll. And lax ball. x1000. | ||
Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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farvacola
United States18818 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
Anyway, when I did do lowbar I found the hip drahve que to be more of a "lift your ass" thing than "shove your hips forward". *points at ass* THIS IS WHERE WE SQUAT! | ||
Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
Goddammit Benken. I usually tend to stay away from spoilers and such at work but since it was a comic I clicked it to see what it was about. Lost my shit in the middle of the office. | ||
Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On September 06 2013 11:16 phyre112 wrote: the important thing to do to fix the problem is to think about bringing your hips forward to start your upward motion, rather than just thinking about extending your legs. You're probably not going to hurt yourself with them - I personally did them all the way from ~165 lbs up to ~235 before I realized the problem. Then I reset and fixed it... but you should fix it now, so that you don't have to reset so much. I'd disagree here. The spine isn't made to move under load, it's very important to keep it rigid. I mean it's probably less dangerous than moving your back during a deadlift because most beginners are going to be deadlifiting a lot more than they squat but still the spine is not supposed to move under load. | ||
phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On September 07 2013 03:51 Eufouria wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 11:16 phyre112 wrote: On September 06 2013 09:29 mordek wrote: Yeah, squat mornings no bueno. the important thing to do to fix the problem is to think about bringing your hips forward to start your upward motion, rather than just thinking about extending your legs. You're probably not going to hurt yourself with them - I personally did them all the way from ~165 lbs up to ~235 before I realized the problem. Then I reset and fixed it... but you should fix it now, so that you don't have to reset so much. I'd disagree here. The spine isn't made to move under load, it's very important to keep it rigid. I mean it's probably less dangerous than moving your back during a deadlift because most beginners are going to be deadlifiting a lot more than they squat but still the spine is not supposed to move under load. Sure, it's nota good thing to do, and if you continue to do it indefinitely it's going to result in an injury... but it's not the kind of thing where you need to drop 100 pounds from your squat and freak out about correcting the form, because you're going to paralyze yourself if you do it one more time. It's the kind of thing that you need to understand, and cue yourself properly, while you continue trying to make progress. | ||
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