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On June 19 2013 00:42 Pandemona wrote:Pretty good name to be linked with the job. Who was your coach in the 2002 world cup semi final run? or Quarter final. Wasn't Hiddink was it?
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Yeah it was hiddink that took us to the semis. Wouldn't mind hong myung bo, the guy who led us to bronze in Olympics or senol gunes as manager
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Well so much for bielsa, but we got hong myung bo!!! Led us to bronze in Olympics and a very charismatic guy. Hope his career doesn't get ruined though. That's what tends to happen to Korean managers
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Just looked him up on wikipedia, he looks like a really good manager for Korea. Does he speak English btw?
nvm, missed to see he played for LA Galaxy.
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On June 19 2013 01:20 Ysellian wrote:
Just looked him up on wikipedia, he looks like a really good manager for Korea. Does he speak English btw?
I'm sure he speaks a little. But I hope he doesn't get fired after a few losses. He has too much potential to fail. I really think he could be one of the first minority managers ever to be successful because if he does well with Korea, i think he would do well with a European club.
He recently worke with hiddink at anzhi
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On June 19 2013 01:20 Ysellian wrote:
Just looked him up on wikipedia, he looks like a really good manager for Korea. Does he speak English btw?
he was the 2002 Korean team captain where they reach the semi-final. On the 3rd-4th match he made a huge mistake giving Turkey a very early goal lead and lost the match.
Talking about Asia football, this week has seen one of the biggest shitstorm in Chinese footaball history after China somehow manage to lost 1-5 versus Thailand. Camacho will likely be gone after this week, that was such a terrible and humiliate loss for China.
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On June 19 2013 01:29 Caphe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 01:20 Ysellian wrote:
Just looked him up on wikipedia, he looks like a really good manager for Korea. Does he speak English btw? he was the 2002 Korean team captain where they reach the semi-final. On the 3rd-4th match he made a huge mistake giving Turkey a very early goal lead and lost the match. Talking about Asia football, this week has seen one of the biggest shitstorm in Chinese footaball history after China somehow manage to lost 1-5 versus Thailand. Camacho will likely be gone after this week, that was such a terrible and humiliate loss for China.
He did make the mistake but I would forgive him a thousand times over. And in his heydays, Barcelona wanted him but back then kleague clubs weren't cooperative at all.
And lol for china. All that money spent on a foreign coach and a 1-5 loss to Thailand? Thought they were making progress
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On June 19 2013 01:29 Tazza wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 01:20 Ysellian wrote:
Just looked him up on wikipedia, he looks like a really good manager for Korea. Does he speak English btw? I'm sure he speaks a little. But I hope he doesn't get fired after a few losses. He has too much potential to fail. I really think he could be one of the first minority managers ever to be successful because if he does well with Korea, i think he would do well with a European club. He recently worke with hiddink at anzhi
Yeah, that's what came to my mind as well. He certainly has the credentials to be a good manager in Europe, he captained a side to a world cup semi-final, he performed well with the olympic squad and was an assistance coach to Hiddink.
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On June 19 2013 01:37 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 01:29 Tazza wrote:On June 19 2013 01:20 Ysellian wrote:
Just looked him up on wikipedia, he looks like a really good manager for Korea. Does he speak English btw? I'm sure he speaks a little. But I hope he doesn't get fired after a few losses. He has too much potential to fail. I really think he could be one of the first minority managers ever to be successful because if he does well with Korea, i think he would do well with a European club. He recently worke with hiddink at anzhi Yeah, that's what came to my mind as well. He certainly has the credentials to be a good manager in Europe, he captained a side to a world cup semi-final, he performed well with the olympic squad and was an assistance coach to Hiddink.
John duerden, who writes about Asian football for espn talked about how hong myung Bo should take over for Blackburn rovers a few months ago and said they'd get a leader with tactical nous.
But I'd much rather he manager Korea for maybe 2 world cups and then having the opportunity to go to a "big" club
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On June 19 2013 01:37 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 01:29 Tazza wrote:On June 19 2013 01:20 Ysellian wrote:
Just looked him up on wikipedia, he looks like a really good manager for Korea. Does he speak English btw? I'm sure he speaks a little. But I hope he doesn't get fired after a few losses. He has too much potential to fail. I really think he could be one of the first minority managers ever to be successful because if he does well with Korea, i think he would do well with a European club. He recently worke with hiddink at anzhi Yeah, that's what came to my mind as well. He certainly has the credentials to be a good manager in Europe, he captained a side to a world cup semi-final, he performed well with the olympic squad and was an assistance coach to Hiddink.
The semi finals was reached with very questionable reffing and the referee is a suspect of match fixing but yeah it was a good performancr nonetheless.
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On June 19 2013 01:46 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 01:37 Ysellian wrote:On June 19 2013 01:29 Tazza wrote:On June 19 2013 01:20 Ysellian wrote:
Just looked him up on wikipedia, he looks like a really good manager for Korea. Does he speak English btw? I'm sure he speaks a little. But I hope he doesn't get fired after a few losses. He has too much potential to fail. I really think he could be one of the first minority managers ever to be successful because if he does well with Korea, i think he would do well with a European club. He recently worke with hiddink at anzhi Yeah, that's what came to my mind as well. He certainly has the credentials to be a good manager in Europe, he captained a side to a world cup semi-final, he performed well with the olympic squad and was an assistance coach to Hiddink. The semi finals was reached with very questionable reffing and the referee is a suspect of match fixing but yeah it was a good performancr nonetheless.
The Spain match, yes. The calls were very questionable. But the match against Italy, it was fair.
What people don't realize is that on all those YouTube vids about how Korea "cheated" against Italy, 90% of the fouls on the videos were CALLED. I watched the full match to check.
Spain deserved to go through but that's football. Italy, we beat fair and square
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On June 19 2013 01:43 Tazza wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 01:37 Ysellian wrote:On June 19 2013 01:29 Tazza wrote:On June 19 2013 01:20 Ysellian wrote:
Just looked him up on wikipedia, he looks like a really good manager for Korea. Does he speak English btw? I'm sure he speaks a little. But I hope he doesn't get fired after a few losses. He has too much potential to fail. I really think he could be one of the first minority managers ever to be successful because if he does well with Korea, i think he would do well with a European club. He recently worke with hiddink at anzhi Yeah, that's what came to my mind as well. He certainly has the credentials to be a good manager in Europe, he captained a side to a world cup semi-final, he performed well with the olympic squad and was an assistance coach to Hiddink. John duerden, who writes about Asian football for espn talked about how hong myung Bo should take over for Blackburn rovers a few months ago and said they'd get a leader with tactical nous. But I'd much rather he manager Korea for maybe 2 world cups and then having the opportunity to go to a "big" club
Yeah sounds good, the more experience under his belt the better.
edit: and well the Italy match was also a case of Italy just having a bad reputation in general, which in 2006 they went on to prove was entirely correct lol.
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On June 19 2013 01:57 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 01:43 Tazza wrote:On June 19 2013 01:37 Ysellian wrote:On June 19 2013 01:29 Tazza wrote:On June 19 2013 01:20 Ysellian wrote:
Just looked him up on wikipedia, he looks like a really good manager for Korea. Does he speak English btw? I'm sure he speaks a little. But I hope he doesn't get fired after a few losses. He has too much potential to fail. I really think he could be one of the first minority managers ever to be successful because if he does well with Korea, i think he would do well with a European club. He recently worke with hiddink at anzhi Yeah, that's what came to my mind as well. He certainly has the credentials to be a good manager in Europe, he captained a side to a world cup semi-final, he performed well with the olympic squad and was an assistance coach to Hiddink. John duerden, who writes about Asian football for espn talked about how hong myung Bo should take over for Blackburn rovers a few months ago and said they'd get a leader with tactical nous. But I'd much rather he manager Korea for maybe 2 world cups and then having the opportunity to go to a "big" club Yeah sounds good, the more experience under his belt the better. edit: and well the Italy match was also a case of Italy just having a bad reputation in general, which in 2006 they went on to prove was entirely correct lol.
I actually read a recent article about racism in Italy an how it was kind of embedded in them. I don't hate Italy, but yeah with balotelli and KPB racism chants... Idk
And just to calm down the hype on this guy a little, before the Olympics, his results with youth teams weren't off the charts but not bad also. I guess I'm just saying that he doesn't have a magic wand
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On June 19 2013 00:02 Tazza wrote:
Korea Didn't deserve the World Cup, Uzbek did. 96th minute goal against Qatar, 97 goal against Lebanon, own goal for Uzbek....
But I'm so glad our manager is gone. Didn't want the job in the first place but the Kfa forced it upon him. We have so many good players but no manager to use them...
wow South Korea really barely scraped through...
what happened o.O
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On June 19 2013 00:34 Tazza wrote:
Apparently Korea is linked with bielsa, the former Bilbao manager. At least this gives a little bit of a smile after that pathetic display
I'm not sure Bielsa produces lasting goodness though, he works the players to the ground, and look what happened in his 2nd year at Athletic Bilbao.
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On June 19 2013 01:50 Tazza wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 01:46 RvB wrote:On June 19 2013 01:37 Ysellian wrote:On June 19 2013 01:29 Tazza wrote:On June 19 2013 01:20 Ysellian wrote:
Just looked him up on wikipedia, he looks like a really good manager for Korea. Does he speak English btw? I'm sure he speaks a little. But I hope he doesn't get fired after a few losses. He has too much potential to fail. I really think he could be one of the first minority managers ever to be successful because if he does well with Korea, i think he would do well with a European club. He recently worke with hiddink at anzhi Yeah, that's what came to my mind as well. He certainly has the credentials to be a good manager in Europe, he captained a side to a world cup semi-final, he performed well with the olympic squad and was an assistance coach to Hiddink. The semi finals was reached with very questionable reffing and the referee is a suspect of match fixing but yeah it was a good performancr nonetheless. The Spain match, yes. The calls were very questionable. But the match against Italy, it was fair. What people don't realize is that on all those YouTube vids about how Korea "cheated" against Italy, 90% of the fouls on the videos were CALLED. I watched the full match to check. Spain deserved to go through but that's football. Italy, we beat fair and square
I remember that WorldCup. Everyone was so upset in Spain with the Referee when South Korea eliminated Spain after disallow two legal Spanish goals and call lot of wrongs offsides lol. Today many Spaniards still remember the name of the Egyptian referee (Al Ghandour).
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On June 19 2013 03:48 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 00:02 Tazza wrote:
Korea Didn't deserve the World Cup, Uzbek did. 96th minute goal against Qatar, 97 goal against Lebanon, own goal for Uzbek....
But I'm so glad our manager is gone. Didn't want the job in the first place but the Kfa forced it upon him. We have so many good players but no manager to use them... wow South Korea really barely scraped through... what happened o.O
They lost their last match at home 0-1 to Iran while Uzebekistan win 5-1 Qatar, Korea pull ahead of Uzebek by +1 goal difference, Uzek also hit the post 3 times in their game against Qatar, if one of that went in, Korea is out of the WC now. They had alot of luck by their side in the last 3 matches.
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On June 19 2013 09:08 Caphe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2013 03:48 sharkie wrote:On June 19 2013 00:02 Tazza wrote:
Korea Didn't deserve the World Cup, Uzbek did. 96th minute goal against Qatar, 97 goal against Lebanon, own goal for Uzbek....
But I'm so glad our manager is gone. Didn't want the job in the first place but the Kfa forced it upon him. We have so many good players but no manager to use them... wow South Korea really barely scraped through... what happened o.O They lost their last match at home 0-1 to Iran while Uzebekistan win 5-1 Qatar, Korea pull ahead of Uzebek by +1 goal difference, Uzek also hit the post 3 times in their game against Qatar, if one of that went in, Korea is out of the WC now. They had alot of luck by their side in the last 3 matches.
Well actually I think two of those shots would have had to go in. One goes in, and were tied on goal difference but Korea had more goals scored I believe.
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Moyes going to have an interesting 3 weeks at the start of his United career, that's for sure,and they play City week 5
EDIT: So the question is can the team hold on for the first 6 weeks and get their rhythm going under Moyes or do they collapse much like Chelsea did under AVB
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I know i've been posting here a lot since like yesterday, but just one more thing. I think because of the recent results, korea's reputation as a footballing nation has seriously gone down, but I just want to show that with the right coach, our team can be very good because Korea hasn't been this talented since 2002 even without park ji sung. I really want to show a lineup that korea can use to show this talent, and well because i don't know where else to post this on the internet 
Park Chu Young
Son Heung Min - Kim Bo Kyung - Lee Chung Yong
Ki Sung Yong - Koo Ja Cheol
Yun Seok Young - Hong Jeong Ho - Kim Young Kwon - Kim Chang Soo
Jung Sung Ryong
I guess only a few fans might know half of these players, but since most of them play in europe, i hope some of you will know. Just in case anyone is interested, i'll explain the players.
Park Chu Young - Korea's best and really Asia's best striker until recently(if there are some better asian strikers, i'd actually be very curious). Very bad form recently with arsenal and celta vigo, but still better than any other option out there.
Son Heung Min - Recently transferred to Leverkusen. 13 goals last season in bundesliga and only 21. (and i don't really consider him a striker which is why Park Chu Young is ahead of him).
Kim Bo Kyung - Was on Cardiff's championship league winning side and will play in premier league. Only played home games because he had been playing literally for 2 straight years without a break but still had a good season according to Cardiff fans.
Lee Chung Yong - Stuck at bolton for right now but should be in the premier league because of his talent. Just check a youtube video of him, he has very quick feet and nice trickery. Also, two goals in last world cup.
Ki Sung Yong - Deep-lying playmaker who enjoyed a good season with Swansea in the premier league.
Koo Ja Cheol - Now plays attacking midfielder, but played a deeper role in the k-league and I think he would do well there again. Played great for augsburg for the past two seasons.
Defense - You guys probably don't know these players, but Yun Seok Young is at qpr right now. Hong Jeong Ho would have been the #1 CB had it not been for injuries the past year. Kim Young Kwon was the player that made the mistake yesterday, but ironically his manager Lippi, said that he doesn't make mistakes and would definitely take him to Italy when he goes back to serie a. Kim Chang Soo was another solid player til injury and showed his ability the last two games.
Goalkeeper - Was a serious liability in the 2010 world cup, but has developed well. Not great reflexes and doesn't make super saves but does the normal stuff well.
On the bench we'd also have players like Ji Dong-Won(augsburg), Kim Shin Wook(1.96m tall guy), and squad players i know hardly any of you know lol.
With this squad I really think Korea would win against any side except for the best and still, I think we could challenge them. I'd even be confident of beating our rivals, japan.
The reason is that Japan has amazing world class attacking midfielders, but they really don't have any defensive ones. Hasebe is really an attacking mid playing defensive mid. And Endo is simply too old. I might actually try Honda in defensive mid because of his physicality and move Kagawa to #10 but w/e.
I hope our new manager picks a lineup similar to this, because our past lineups have been awful with the majority of players being has-beens and k-league veterans.
I know I'm one of the few Korean national team fans here, but idk, I just really felt like posting this in case anyone is interested and to show some korean players. If anyone has any other questions, feel free to ask
EDIT: idk why the post isn't showing spaces, but this is a 4-2-3-1 formation!
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