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On October 05 2011 09:48 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2011 00:31 Daigomi wrote:My back's been intermittently sore with squats, but the last time I did squats, my back made a funny click and a sharp pain shot up my spine on the first squat. I stopped the squats, completed the rest of the routine, before going back to the squats and testing it out on lighter weights. I could feel that it was sore. However, it's now two days later and my spine still hurts so I thought I'd post here before I do more exercise. + Show Spoiler [Details] +1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.![[image loading]](http://www.triggerpointbook.com/gluteus1.gif) Where the spine meets the pelvis. Sometimes it hurts a bit just above my butt on the right side. 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.If I do a cat-camel, it hurts during the "cat" position, e.g. when the back is arched. Even after hurting it, I could still do proper squats without increasing the pain. 3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?Aches most of the time, with a sharp pain if I arch my back. 4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.1-2 most of the time, 3 when I arch my back. 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?Acute, onset was Sunday afternoon two days ago. Pain decreased fairly rapidly in the first 20 minutes, and since then has been receding very slowly with each day being a bit better than the previous. 6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?Not really, I just completed the workout. 7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.It's difficult to say. The point where it meets the spine feels deep, the spots above my right bum and right of my spine feel more like tissues. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?Back stretches and hamstring stretches. Foam rolled it as well. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?It's pretty constant, but seems to be worse when I Iie on it, and hurts more in the mornings when I wake up. 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?Not sure how to check this. I don't think there's any swelling though. 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?It hurts during stretches, but feels fine afterwards. It hurts most at the start and end of each day. During the day it's just a dull ache. 12. Any previous injury history?I'm not sure if this is relevant, but about ten years ago I went to sit on a table in school, and a kid pulled it out from under me. I fell on my pelvis quite hard and couldn't move from bed for about 10 days after that. 13. How's your posture?Average to poor. 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?I'm doing SL, so 5x5 squats three times a week, and deadlifts once a week. 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?Nope, not really. I might make a chiropractor appointment if that will help. Also, if this kind of thing is normal, let me know and I'll stop worrying about it. Most of the time I can exercise through it, but I'm pretty new at this and I don't want to risk doing more serious harm. In SL routine B, you're supposed to do 5x5 squat and 1x5 DL (since DL is supposed to use roughly the same muscles). Would it be a good idea to swap that to 1x5 Squat and 5x5 DL until my back is better? Squats definitely hurt more at the moment. Read this: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/02/so-you-hurt-your-lower-back/Would you say it's more SI or muscular, or more spinal? (Could be more than one). Um, the general recommendations I would make follow the article(s) addressment of those potential issues. May not be a bad idea to see a chiro or physical therapist. It sounds from your post like an unstable SI joint + possible muscular strain or stress to the muscle.
Thanks for the help. It's very difficult for me to judge whether it's SI or spinal, especially since the pain is getting less noticeable by the day. I'll go to the chiro as soon as I can afford it, or if it gets worse after today's exercise.
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On October 05 2011 16:55 Daigomi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2011 09:48 eshlow wrote:On October 05 2011 00:31 Daigomi wrote:My back's been intermittently sore with squats, but the last time I did squats, my back made a funny click and a sharp pain shot up my spine on the first squat. I stopped the squats, completed the rest of the routine, before going back to the squats and testing it out on lighter weights. I could feel that it was sore. However, it's now two days later and my spine still hurts so I thought I'd post here before I do more exercise. + Show Spoiler [Details] +1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.Where the spine meets the pelvis. Sometimes it hurts a bit just above my butt on the right side. 2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.If I do a cat-camel, it hurts during the "cat" position, e.g. when the back is arched. Even after hurting it, I could still do proper squats without increasing the pain. 3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?Aches most of the time, with a sharp pain if I arch my back. 4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.1-2 most of the time, 3 when I arch my back. 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?Acute, onset was Sunday afternoon two days ago. Pain decreased fairly rapidly in the first 20 minutes, and since then has been receding very slowly with each day being a bit better than the previous. 6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?Not really, I just completed the workout. 7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.It's difficult to say. The point where it meets the spine feels deep, the spots above my right bum and right of my spine feel more like tissues. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?Back stretches and hamstring stretches. Foam rolled it as well. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?It's pretty constant, but seems to be worse when I Iie on it, and hurts more in the mornings when I wake up. 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?Not sure how to check this. I don't think there's any swelling though. 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?It hurts during stretches, but feels fine afterwards. It hurts most at the start and end of each day. During the day it's just a dull ache. 12. Any previous injury history?I'm not sure if this is relevant, but about ten years ago I went to sit on a table in school, and a kid pulled it out from under me. I fell on my pelvis quite hard and couldn't move from bed for about 10 days after that. 13. How's your posture?Average to poor. 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?I'm doing SL, so 5x5 squats three times a week, and deadlifts once a week. 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?Nope, not really. I might make a chiropractor appointment if that will help. Also, if this kind of thing is normal, let me know and I'll stop worrying about it. Most of the time I can exercise through it, but I'm pretty new at this and I don't want to risk doing more serious harm. In SL routine B, you're supposed to do 5x5 squat and 1x5 DL (since DL is supposed to use roughly the same muscles). Would it be a good idea to swap that to 1x5 Squat and 5x5 DL until my back is better? Squats definitely hurt more at the moment. Read this: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/02/so-you-hurt-your-lower-back/Would you say it's more SI or muscular, or more spinal? (Could be more than one). Um, the general recommendations I would make follow the article(s) addressment of those potential issues. May not be a bad idea to see a chiro or physical therapist. It sounds from your post like an unstable SI joint + possible muscular strain or stress to the muscle. Thanks for the help. It's very difficult for me to judge whether it's SI or spinal, especially since the pain is getting less noticeable by the day. I'll go to the chiro as soon as I can afford it, or if it gets worse after today's exercise.
Sounds like a good plan.
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Runnin directed me here for my injury.
Whenever I run for a long period of time my right shoulder starts to act up and I get pain going up from my trapezoid muscle all the way to my upper shoulder. I also got some shin splits from what it looks like, symptoms match up. Going to try to ice that for a couple of days.
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On October 06 2011 06:23 One Student wrote:
Runnin directed me here for my injury.
Whenever I run for a long period of time my right shoulder starts to act up and I get pain going up from my trapezoid muscle all the way to my upper shoulder. I also got some shin splits from what it looks like, symptoms match up. Going to try to ice that for a couple of days.
Shin splints is almost always about running technique. If you heel strike... yeah...
Also, read the OP if you want me to attempt to help you with your shoulder. There are questions that you need to answer.
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On October 05 2011 11:36 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2011 11:07 Catch wrote:Believe I injured my shoulder, Eshlow! + Show Spoiler +1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. + Show Spoiler +2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. I've noticed it on OH press, not on bench. But I also use a lot of tricep and tuck my shoulder blades in, so I haven't noticed it. I believe extension. It hurt during Overhead press. 3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? More like an ache or tingling pain. 4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. During the lifting, it may have been a 5.5 or 6. Enough to make me question it, but it wasn't a sharp pain so I didn't stop During rest, I haven't noticed it until today (will go into more detail on #9) 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? Acute, on monday (10/3). N/A, I haven't exercised since. It wasn't bothering me resting until a little bit ago. 6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? One session, doing 50% of max for 5 sets of 10. Got through the two sets to ten, when the pain worsened to the point where I went to 7/6/5 on the last three. I didn't start to even notice it until my working set of 85 lbs. 7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. I'm not sure entirely. It seems to ache from the area I circled above, but I can't tell if it is superficial or deep. It seems slightly more superficial. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? Icing it right now. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? I noticed it aching today while I was sitting in my chair. My body was forward, with that particular arm on the armrest. My shoulder was projected forward, so that if a straight line was drawn down, it would be hit between my wrist and midforearm. I was sitting like this for awhile I believe. It isn't constant, and I haven't noticed it at any other time today. It obviously increases as I lift (mainly overhead press), and not when I don't. 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? No tightness or tenderness that I can tell. No swelling. 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? It felt bad after exercise. It was fine at the beginning of yesterday and fine at the ending of yesterday. In the morning today it was fine, while it is aching right now. 12. Any previous injury history? No. Not where I had to skip workouts or any of that. 13. How's your posture? Not bad  my shoulders are "rolled" a little bit forward. I don't know if this is natural, or if they should be perpendicular to the torso. 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? 5/3/1 BBB OH Press x 5/3/1 OH press x 5x10 at 50% 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? Yeah. I noticed this feeling in my left shoulder and wondered if it was just maybe a pump from doing 5 sets of ten (although I felt it in the first few sets). I had trouble locking out my elbow to give me a full range of motion. This was only at the very top of the lift. I also noticed the same ache in my right shoulder, but only after I was done lifting entirely. That however, felt more sore than pain-ish. I think it may be the same thing though? lol, come man. I provided the shoulder articulations link underneath question #2... moving the arm overhead is flexion not extension. Specifically with the shoulder I need to know if any other of the articulations hurt because that helps me rule in or out specific muscles when I cannot do specific tests to you. If you can check all of them actively and passively that would help a lot. Right now it could be muscular strain type of thing, maybe biceps tendon, impingement, bursitis, or other things along that nature. Don't think it's labrum or anything like that which is good.
Just testing you Eshlow.
Lol so flexion hurts the most.
The rest are slight aches
Abduction is a slight ache, mostly when I have my arm parallel to the ground.
Transverse Adducton
Transverse flexion
Transverse extension (1/10, seems tight)
External rotation there seems to be tight
Hopefully I did all those right :\
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On October 06 2011 10:41 Catch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2011 11:36 eshlow wrote:On October 05 2011 11:07 Catch wrote:Believe I injured my shoulder, Eshlow! + Show Spoiler +1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. + Show Spoiler +2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. I've noticed it on OH press, not on bench. But I also use a lot of tricep and tuck my shoulder blades in, so I haven't noticed it. I believe extension. It hurt during Overhead press. 3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? More like an ache or tingling pain. 4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. During the lifting, it may have been a 5.5 or 6. Enough to make me question it, but it wasn't a sharp pain so I didn't stop During rest, I haven't noticed it until today (will go into more detail on #9) 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? Acute, on monday (10/3). N/A, I haven't exercised since. It wasn't bothering me resting until a little bit ago. 6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? One session, doing 50% of max for 5 sets of 10. Got through the two sets to ten, when the pain worsened to the point where I went to 7/6/5 on the last three. I didn't start to even notice it until my working set of 85 lbs. 7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. I'm not sure entirely. It seems to ache from the area I circled above, but I can't tell if it is superficial or deep. It seems slightly more superficial. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? Icing it right now. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? I noticed it aching today while I was sitting in my chair. My body was forward, with that particular arm on the armrest. My shoulder was projected forward, so that if a straight line was drawn down, it would be hit between my wrist and midforearm. I was sitting like this for awhile I believe. It isn't constant, and I haven't noticed it at any other time today. It obviously increases as I lift (mainly overhead press), and not when I don't. 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? No tightness or tenderness that I can tell. No swelling. 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? It felt bad after exercise. It was fine at the beginning of yesterday and fine at the ending of yesterday. In the morning today it was fine, while it is aching right now. 12. Any previous injury history? No. Not where I had to skip workouts or any of that. 13. How's your posture? Not bad my shoulders are "rolled" a little bit forward. I don't know if this is natural, or if they should be perpendicular to the torso. 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? 5/3/1 BBB OH Press x 5/3/1 OH press x 5x10 at 50% 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? Yeah. I noticed this feeling in my left shoulder and wondered if it was just maybe a pump from doing 5 sets of ten (although I felt it in the first few sets). I had trouble locking out my elbow to give me a full range of motion. This was only at the very top of the lift. I also noticed the same ache in my right shoulder, but only after I was done lifting entirely. That however, felt more sore than pain-ish. I think it may be the same thing though? lol, come man. I provided the shoulder articulations link underneath question #2... moving the arm overhead is flexion not extension. Specifically with the shoulder I need to know if any other of the articulations hurt because that helps me rule in or out specific muscles when I cannot do specific tests to you. If you can check all of them actively and passively that would help a lot. Right now it could be muscular strain type of thing, maybe biceps tendon, impingement, bursitis, or other things along that nature. Don't think it's labrum or anything like that which is good. Just testing you Eshlow. Lol so flexion hurts the most. The rest are slight aches Abduction is a slight ache, mostly when I have my arm parallel to the ground. Transverse Adducton Transverse flexion Transverse extension (1/10, seems tight) External rotation there seems to be tight Hopefully I did all those right :\
Does ice help? It sounds like bursitis or impingement or something similar.
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Not too much.
I also noticed it in benching today. It wasn't much of a problem, so I went ahead and kept benching. I noticed it mostly when the bar was in the bottom position (getting ready to press it back up) if that helps at all.
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On October 08 2011 08:37 Catch wrote:
Not too much.
I also noticed it in benching today. It wasn't much of a problem, so I went ahead and kept benching. I noticed it mostly when the bar was in the bottom position (getting ready to press it back up) if that helps at all.
Hmm. I'm concerned then because most of the "injuries" that happen to superficial tissues such as bursitis, impingement, etc. tend to get a bit better with rest and ice.
If the injury persists even with rest and ice then it's likely something more not-so-good in which case it may be a good idea to get it checked out by a physical therapist.
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I will do that eshlow, thanks for your time.
In the mean time, should I stop OH press and bench?
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On October 09 2011 06:17 Catch wrote:
I will do that eshlow, thanks for your time.
In the mean time, should I stop OH press and bench?
If it aggravates your condition I would say yes.
If you can do exercises without aggravating it then you're still good to go for the most part.
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Not sure this is worth a post since its only been here for like 2-4 hours so =p but the pain is more sharp than other uncomforts ive had earlier from working out so figured id post it and hear what yall have to say.
1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Yhh5T.gif)
2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion.
http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.html
It started at the end of the exercise today, I was doing a hang power clean, the first set went fine, then on the second I felt like my positioning\whatever was kind of weird. Cant really explain exactly how I just know it felt sort of off, but I started doing them anyway, then my back started hurting so I cut them off and went home =p
3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Its a really.. Tight sort of pain, sort of similar to having I dont know the english word here, the stuff you get in your chest when you are running.
4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
at the worst probably like a 5 or a 6 maybe, depending on like positioning etc.
5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?
Acute I guess? Started getting it earlier today after\during work out and can feel it pretty much constantly, though if i position myself correctly its hardly noticeable\ a minor inconvinience, but if I am moving around\ for example bending my back it hurts a bit.
6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?
No
7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.
It feels pretty deep, like its.. inside, and it also is noticeable on the sides of the chest. It also is triggered\feels uncomfortable to take deep breaths.
8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?
Nothing \stopped working out =p tried to do some back stretches also sort of.
9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?
putting the back in certain positions\moving the back makes it hurt. Also taking deep breaths are uncomfortable. Raising arms up straight also triggers pain.
10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?
11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?
Only had it for half a day so no
12. Any previous injury history?
No
13. How's your posture?
Probably not that great regardless of this pain, this is definitely is not helping though =p
14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?
Am doing Starting Strength.
15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?
Not that I can think of
Edit: So yeah, I have slept on it now and it still feels like a motherfucker. Will tyry to go to a doctor soon i guess. Editedit: Done some googeling\searching around and it seems like it is somewhat common to get reasonably intense back pains that fade away after a week or so? So maybe I dont need to go to a doctor unless it stays for more than a wek? going around like this for a week sucks though xd
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I used to run track with no problems (workouts daily) but had to take a 2 year break, now I am trying to get back into shape, but my foot erupts in pain within 5 minutes of starting so bad I have to sit down (my dog is not happy about that in the slightest). The pain is mainly focused around the abductor hallicus up to my ankle with minor pain on the outside as well.
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qThpk.jpg)
2. Anything faster than a walk, anything requiring the muscular movement that differentiates a walk from a jog/run
3. Sharp, acute pain.
4. 7 or so.
5. Chronic, has been happening for about a year, just got really, really bad. Only occurs while running, goes on for about 1 hour after.
6. When it wasnt bad, I would run through it until I couldnt anymore. Now, I certainly dont.
7. Definitely deep in the abductor hallicus.
8. Apply ice, then soak in hot water.
9. Said it before, but only occurs during running, binding feet/using my ankle braces has no effect. Starts off at its worst immediately, though I dont press the issue because of how bad it hurts.
10. minimal swelling around the entire foot.
11. No pain except during exercise.
12. Rolled ankle once, minor shin splints, undetermined knee injury. None in the affected area.
13. Running posture is very good. I used to run track, was trained well.
14. No routine, I would like to be able to run more though. No sports at this time.
15. Nope :3
Thanks, pain hurts, and I dun like it ><
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Been having this pain for about 9 months now.. Started off with slight strain. Didn't think much of it. It has worsened over time.
Went to a physio guy to check it out last month , he told me it was because my upper back was very tight especially around my trap area. I can feel tightness in both of my traps and left rhomboid so you can imagine how uncomfortable it is but I only feel pain on my left rhomboid area , just to the left of the spine , upper back area.
1.![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Z0kfc.jpg)
2. No exercise really causes me pain , its just that its really uncomfortable because I'm still a student , I'm sitting down most of the time . Also when I cock my head backwards I can feel pain in my left rhomboid area and the tightness there
3-4. More often than not I would rate it a 3 or 4 as a aching pain. Occasionally it would be a 1 with just the tightness remaining and very little pain and sometimes it would be a 6-7 with a sharp pain , if I pull the muscle or something...
5.Chronic , pain hasn't really improved . Didn't think much of the pain initially so I haven't tracked the "progression" of it till recently.
6. Yes for about 9 months . :|
7. Seem to be more of a muscle pain than anything . no joint pain .
8. Stretching everyday for about the past 2-3weeks. Pain often goes away after stretching for awhile before returning but I still feel the tightness there. Stretching has definitely improved the situation. Mostly rhomboid stretches , chest stretches, bicep stretch ,neck stretch.
9. Stretching helps it I guess. Everytime I foam roll the area , the pain changes from a dull aching pain to a sharp pain so I dropped foam rolling there. Not entirely sure what makes it worse.
10. My left trap feels like it has sort of a hard rock muscle in it while when I press my right trap it feel much different than my left one. Right trap feels less tight than left.
11. Usually pain increases as the day goes on . Starts off in the morning fairly okay , but gets worse as I'm attending my classes.
12. Nope.
13. Been trying to keep my posture as good as possible , trying not to slouch over , chin up and stuff. I would say pretty good posture for an average student. Tend to slouch over when I'm in an intense moment in starcraft though , I find myself slouching over and sit up immediately
14. I do dumbell rows , chin ups , Romanian deadlifts. Nope , I play starcraft though :D
15. I doubt so :D
Hope you can help me , the physio I went to recommended I undertook Personal training for him for 10 weeks but I don't have money for that..
I made an appointment with a cheaper physio next week , hope he can help too.
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I am starting to get some serious pain my my left adductor/groin area when I squat. It's there in my first 2-3 warmup/lift sets and usually by the time I am at my max weight the pain has either gone away or I maybe I just don't notice it any more.
Any advice on some good stretches or warm-ups for the groin area? I can't replicate the pain doing anything other than squats.
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On October 09 2011 07:26 Earll wrote:Not sure this is worth a post since its only been here for like 2-4 hours so =p but the pain is more sharp than other uncomforts ive had earlier from working out so figured id post it and hear what yall have to say. 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. + Show Spoiler +2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.htmlIt started at the end of the exercise today, I was doing a hang power clean, the first set went fine, then on the second I felt like my positioning\whatever was kind of weird. Cant really explain exactly how I just know it felt sort of off, but I started doing them anyway, then my back started hurting so I cut them off and went home =p 3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? Its a really.. Tight sort of pain, sort of similar to having I dont know the english word here, the stuff you get in your chest when you are running. 4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. at the worst probably like a 5 or a 6 maybe, depending on like positioning etc. 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? Acute I guess? Started getting it earlier today after\during work out and can feel it pretty much constantly, though if i position myself correctly its hardly noticeable\ a minor inconvinience, but if I am moving around\ for example bending my back it hurts a bit. 6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? No 7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. It feels pretty deep, like its.. inside, and it also is noticeable on the sides of the chest. It also is triggered\feels uncomfortable to take deep breaths. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? Nothing \stopped working out =p tried to do some back stretches also sort of. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? putting the back in certain positions\moving the back makes it hurt. Also taking deep breaths are uncomfortable. Raising arms up straight also triggers pain. 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? Only had it for half a day so no 12. Any previous injury history? No 13. How's your posture? Probably not that great regardless of this pain, this is definitely is not helping though =p 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? Am doing Starting Strength. 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? Not that I can think of Edit: So yeah, I have slept on it now and it still feels like a motherfucker. Will tyry to go to a doctor soon i guess. Editedit: Done some googeling\searching around and it seems like it is somewhat common to get reasonably intense back pains that fade away after a week or so? So maybe I dont need to go to a doctor unless it stays for more than a wek? going around like this for a week sucks though xd
Based on the position and exercise it may be a muscle strain. However, it could also be potentially some ribs that have gotten stuck or slightly out of place.
It may be a good idea to get this checked by a physical therapist so they can confirm. If it's a rib out of place it should be able to be mobilized back in place with none for the worse. However, the longer it sits it can take many more sessions to normalize if not.
The other likely scenario muscle strain should start to heal within 3-4 days, and would probably be sore for a few days as well. So if it starts to end up like that it may be that.
Read the article on muscle strains in OP if it's this.
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On October 09 2011 10:47 drshdwpuppet wrote:I used to run track with no problems (workouts daily) but had to take a 2 year break, now I am trying to get back into shape, but my foot erupts in pain within 5 minutes of starting so bad I have to sit down (my dog is not happy about that in the slightest). The pain is mainly focused around the abductor hallicus up to my ankle with minor pain on the outside as well. + Show Spoiler +1. 2. Anything faster than a walk, anything requiring the muscular movement that differentiates a walk from a jog/run 3. Sharp, acute pain. 4. 7 or so. 5. Chronic, has been happening for about a year, just got really, really bad. Only occurs while running, goes on for about 1 hour after. 6. When it wasnt bad, I would run through it until I couldnt anymore. Now, I certainly dont. 7. Definitely deep in the abductor hallicus. 8. Apply ice, then soak in hot water. 9. Said it before, but only occurs during running, binding feet/using my ankle braces has no effect. Starts off at its worst immediately, though I dont press the issue because of how bad it hurts. 10. minimal swelling around the entire foot. 11. No pain except during exercise. 12. Rolled ankle once, minor shin splints, undetermined knee injury. None in the affected area. 13. Running posture is very good. I used to run track, was trained well. 14. No routine, I would like to be able to run more though. No sports at this time. 15. Nope :3 Thanks, pain hurts, and I dun like it ><
What type of shoes do you wear? Do you have flat feet?
Also, does the pain go up around the ankles and into the leg/calf areas?
There's a couple of tendons that run through those areas. If you have flat feet or your muscles are starting to atrophy it can put a lot of stress on those tendons leading to issues.
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/10/a-firm-foundation-focusing-on-the-feet/
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/11/shoes-sitting-and-lower-body-dysfunctions/
If that's the case (flat feet and/or muscle atrophy) it would be a good idea to read the first article and then take a look at the exercises on page 4 of the second article to help with that.
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On October 09 2011 12:24 kurrysauce wrote:Been having this pain for about 9 months now.. Started off with slight strain. Didn't think much of it. It has worsened over time. Went to a physio guy to check it out last month , he told me it was because my upper back was very tight especially around my trap area. I can feel tightness in both of my traps and left rhomboid so you can imagine how uncomfortable it is but I only feel pain on my left rhomboid area , just to the left of the spine , upper back area. + Show Spoiler +1. 2. No exercise really causes me pain , its just that its really uncomfortable because I'm still a student , I'm sitting down most of the time . Also when I cock my head backwards I can feel pain in my left rhomboid area and the tightness there 3-4. More often than not I would rate it a 3 or 4 as a aching pain. Occasionally it would be a 1 with just the tightness remaining and very little pain and sometimes it would be a 6-7 with a sharp pain , if I pull the muscle or something... 5.Chronic , pain hasn't really improved . Didn't think much of the pain initially so I haven't tracked the "progression" of it till recently. 6. Yes for about 9 months . :| 7. Seem to be more of a muscle pain than anything . no joint pain . 8. Stretching everyday for about the past 2-3weeks. Pain often goes away after stretching for awhile before returning but I still feel the tightness there. Stretching has definitely improved the situation. Mostly rhomboid stretches , chest stretches, bicep stretch ,neck stretch. 9. Stretching helps it I guess. Everytime I foam roll the area , the pain changes from a dull aching pain to a sharp pain so I dropped foam rolling there. Not entirely sure what makes it worse. 10. My left trap feels like it has sort of a hard rock muscle in it while when I press my right trap it feel much different than my left one. Right trap feels less tight than left. 11. Usually pain increases as the day goes on . Starts off in the morning fairly okay , but gets worse as I'm attending my classes. 12. Nope. 13. Been trying to keep my posture as good as possible , trying not to slouch over , chin up and stuff. I would say pretty good posture for an average student. Tend to slouch over when I'm in an intense moment in starcraft though , I find myself slouching over and sit up immediately 14. I do dumbell rows , chin ups , Romanian deadlifts. Nope , I play starcraft though :D 15. I doubt so :D Hope you can help me , the physio I went to recommended I undertook Personal training for him for 10 weeks but I don't have money for that.. I made an appointment with a cheaper physio next week , hope he can help too.
Hmmm. What did the previous physio say what he thought was your problem/issue?
If you shorten the muscle by lying down and retracting your scaps does that help at all?
if so, posture may be a significant issue.
Also, to improve your posture focus on lifting the bottom of your rib cage up where your xiphoid to get a "proud chest" and let it rise until you have about 20-30% tension on your abs.
That should get your shoulders and neck to roll back into place without having to focus on those. Also, with the shoulders back in place it should take a lot of tension off of the muscles on the back of your scapula which you seem to be having issues with.
Continue whatever else stretching you have been doing if it's helping. Here's some other stuff that may help if you haven't already doing these:
+ Show Spoiler +Lats stretch, pec stretch, pec minor massage. Can use basketball or other ball and lie on top of it for pec rolling. For pec major you can use corner stretch -- arms abducted to 90, with hands pointing up. Face the concave corner of a wall, and let the elbows touch the side of the wall. Then lunge forward and let it stretch out the anterior muscles of the shoulder. Deep tissue massage all around the scapula; anterior, lateral and posterior shoulder; coracobrachialis, biceps brachii, and brachialis. Nerve glides (google first link) Band dislocates and wall slides Foam roll thoracic spine (put 45 lbs plate on your chest for deeper stretch). Also, roll side to side as you are rolling and try to arch your back http://www.marksdailyapple.com/how-to-improve-thoracic-spine-mobility/
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On October 09 2011 16:13 Energies wrote:
I am starting to get some serious pain my my left adductor/groin area when I squat. It's there in my first 2-3 warmup/lift sets and usually by the time I am at my max weight the pain has either gone away or I maybe I just don't notice it any more.
Any advice on some good stretches or warm-ups for the groin area? I can't replicate the pain doing anything other than squats.
Lunges to either side cannot reproduce the pain?
http://www.weight-lifting-workout-routines.com/side-lunges.jpg
Do stretches reproduce the pain?
Where is the pain?
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On October 10 2011 07:45 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 10:47 drshdwpuppet wrote:I used to run track with no problems (workouts daily) but had to take a 2 year break, now I am trying to get back into shape, but my foot erupts in pain within 5 minutes of starting so bad I have to sit down (my dog is not happy about that in the slightest). The pain is mainly focused around the abductor hallicus up to my ankle with minor pain on the outside as well. + Show Spoiler +1. 2. Anything faster than a walk, anything requiring the muscular movement that differentiates a walk from a jog/run 3. Sharp, acute pain. 4. 7 or so. 5. Chronic, has been happening for about a year, just got really, really bad. Only occurs while running, goes on for about 1 hour after. 6. When it wasnt bad, I would run through it until I couldnt anymore. Now, I certainly dont. 7. Definitely deep in the abductor hallicus. 8. Apply ice, then soak in hot water. 9. Said it before, but only occurs during running, binding feet/using my ankle braces has no effect. Starts off at its worst immediately, though I dont press the issue because of how bad it hurts. 10. minimal swelling around the entire foot. 11. No pain except during exercise. 12. Rolled ankle once, minor shin splints, undetermined knee injury. None in the affected area. 13. Running posture is very good. I used to run track, was trained well. 14. No routine, I would like to be able to run more though. No sports at this time. 15. Nope :3 Thanks, pain hurts, and I dun like it >< What type of shoes do you wear? Do you have flat feet? Also, does the pain go up around the ankles and into the leg/calf areas? There's a couple of tendons that run through those areas. If you have flat feet or your muscles are starting to atrophy it can put a lot of stress on those tendons leading to issues. http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/10/a-firm-foundation-focusing-on-the-feet/http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/11/shoes-sitting-and-lower-body-dysfunctions/If that's the case (flat feet and/or muscle atrophy) it would be a good idea to read the first article and then take a look at the exercises on page 4 of the second article to help with that.
I wear Newbalance 856s because I overpronate slightly. I do not have flat feet. The pain barely touches the bottom of the ankle. I cant imagine my muscles becoming atrophied as I am fairly active, though I guess it isnt out of the question. I will read the articles though and see what I can do. Thanks <3
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On October 10 2011 07:42 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 07:26 Earll wrote:Not sure this is worth a post since its only been here for like 2-4 hours so =p but the pain is more sharp than other uncomforts ive had earlier from working out so figured id post it and hear what yall have to say. 1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts. + Show Spoiler +2. What exercises hurt? Which shoulder articulations hurt? Make sure you check both with passive motion and resistive/active motion. http://www.exrx.net/Articulations/Shoulder.htmlIt started at the end of the exercise today, I was doing a hang power clean, the first set went fine, then on the second I felt like my positioning\whatever was kind of weird. Cant really explain exactly how I just know it felt sort of off, but I started doing them anyway, then my back started hurting so I cut them off and went home =p 3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp? Its a really.. Tight sort of pain, sort of similar to having I dont know the english word here, the stuff you get in your chest when you are running. 4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room. at the worst probably like a 5 or a 6 maybe, depending on like positioning etc. 5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury? Acute I guess? Started getting it earlier today after\during work out and can feel it pretty much constantly, though if i position myself correctly its hardly noticeable\ a minor inconvinience, but if I am moving around\ for example bending my back it hurts a bit. 6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long? No 7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it. It feels pretty deep, like its.. inside, and it also is noticeable on the sides of the chest. It also is triggered\feels uncomfortable to take deep breaths. 8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes? Nothing \stopped working out =p tried to do some back stretches also sort of. 9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities? putting the back in certain positions\moving the back makes it hurt. Also taking deep breaths are uncomfortable. Raising arms up straight also triggers pain. 10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling? 11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day? Only had it for half a day so no 12. Any previous injury history? No 13. How's your posture? Probably not that great regardless of this pain, this is definitely is not helping though =p 14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports? Am doing Starting Strength. 15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help? Not that I can think of Edit: So yeah, I have slept on it now and it still feels like a motherfucker. Will tyry to go to a doctor soon i guess. Editedit: Done some googeling\searching around and it seems like it is somewhat common to get reasonably intense back pains that fade away after a week or so? So maybe I dont need to go to a doctor unless it stays for more than a wek? going around like this for a week sucks though xd Based on the position and exercise it may be a muscle strain. However, it could also be potentially some ribs that have gotten stuck or slightly out of place. It may be a good idea to get this checked by a physical therapist so they can confirm. If it's a rib out of place it should be able to be mobilized back in place with none for the worse. However, the longer it sits it can take many more sessions to normalize if not. The other likely scenario muscle strain should start to heal within 3-4 days, and would probably be sore for a few days as well. So if it starts to end up like that it may be that. Read the article on muscle strains in OP if it's this.
Although i hate to try to selfdiagnose myself, if I were to guess I would say it really does feel like be some ribs getting stuck slightly out of place. Like it hurts in the sides and the front too somewhat (but most in the back) and is pretty like tied into my breathing\chest expanding also. If i just contact my regular doctor would he be able to point me towards who I should see for this? =p
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