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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 28 2013 18:21 GMT
#1281
On September 28 2013 06:22 eshlow wrote:
PWO is post workout... usualyl protein shake with 4:1 carb:protein ratio

Amazon is pretty good at getting it to you within about 1-2 days since they have warehouses everywhere even with standard shipping (3-5 days)

Otherwise I'd hit up costco or other bulk stores if your friends have a membership

Yeah, I'll probably just get it. a few dollars over months won't matter, especially if I keep an eye out for it in the future.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 02 2013 04:08 GMT
#1282
I'm currently 5'9 143 lbs trying to get up to ~170 lbs @ 8%ish bf and I was wondering how important what the foods were I'm eating to gain wait are. Currently my typical daily diet includes: oatmeal, sandwich (bread cheese turkey), pasta + sauce, chicken with a veggie (carrots, broccoli, zuccini, or sweet potato), lots of milk (1/2 gallon approx), a few bananas and a fruit/yogurt smoothie totaling 2500-3000ish calories.

I've been eating this way for about a week now, and so far I feel like I'm doing well but I was wondering if it'd be better for me to change any specific food (probably the pasta) in my diet to reach my goals more efficiently or if I would even get there with the current diet.

I currently train muay thai 3x week and go to the gym 2x a week (doing Starting Strength).
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
October 02 2013 04:20 GMT
#1283
On October 02 2013 13:08 Najda wrote:
I'm currently 5'9 143 lbs trying to get up to ~170 lbs @ 8%ish bf and I was wondering how important what the foods were I'm eating to gain wait are. Currently my typical daily diet includes: oatmeal, sandwich (bread cheese turkey), pasta + sauce, chicken with a veggie (carrots, broccoli, zuccini, or sweet potato), lots of milk (1/2 gallon approx), a few bananas and a fruit/yogurt smoothie totaling 2500-3000ish calories.

I've been eating this way for about a week now, and so far I feel like I'm doing well but I was wondering if it'd be better for me to change any specific food (probably the pasta) in my diet to reach my goals more efficiently or if I would even get there with the current diet.

I currently train muay thai 3x week and go to the gym 2x a week (doing Starting Strength).


Not too much processed stuff in there, so you're probably good. Depending on how your body responds to gluten and such maybe cutting the pasta would be good, but if it isn't giving you any trouble then there's no reason to change
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10100 Posts
October 06 2013 22:57 GMT
#1284
im going to stop cheating one day a week, im not seeing results anymore *sigh* this is going to be hard T_T
3 more months to summer, my goal 75-78kg... im neat 85kg. one can just make it happen gogogo!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 10 2013 22:49 GMT
#1285
Do you all consume your fishoil in capsules or can you buy fish oil "bottles"? I only found capsules on Amazon.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 11 2013 00:04 GMT
#1286
On April 20 2012 21:50 eshlow wrote:
I use this fish oil.

Couple code LOW052 for $5 off your first order... plus I get like 4% of whatever that is which is cents but it could help. :p

http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Answer-Liquid-Omega-3-Deep-Sea-Fish-Oil-EPA-DHA-Natural-Orange-Flavor-16-fl-oz-480-ml/7908

It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 11 2013 02:09 GMT
#1287
On October 11 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote:
Do you all consume your fishoil in capsules or can you buy fish oil "bottles"? I only found capsules on Amazon.


Liquid stuff usually has a better EPA/DHA content than the capsules, which have more "filler" so you have to take more. It's more economical to take the liquid, and I find that I have less "fish burps" with the stuff that's recommended in the post above mine than with anything else.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 11 2013 03:58 GMT
#1288
Do you just drink it? It says it's orange flavored, is it acutally not horrible tasting, as in I could mix it in with a fruit smoothie and still be happy with the taste?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 11 2013 04:47 GMT
#1289
On October 11 2013 12:58 Najda wrote:
Do you just drink it? It says it's orange flavored, is it acutally not horrible tasting, as in I could mix it in with a fruit smoothie and still be happy with the taste?


I always got the lemon stuff, but it actually tasted quite good.

I just poured it on a spoon and ate/drank it.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
October 11 2013 10:40 GMT
#1290
Ok so I have a question about how to eat more:

I'm a 16 year old high school student. A sort of irrelevant fact, but I go to a private school so I'm not allowed to do certain things. Included in these things are going out to eat and bring in my own drinks.

So I'm ok with this, except for the fact that my school either makes a shitty lunch one day or there are no sandwiches with enough protein or calories that I actually like. The ham is pretty gross at my school and I don't like plain roast beef with nothing else on the sandwich, but some days I'll end up bringing a sandwich myself (usually roast beef, West Virginia ham and mozzerella). This is ok but it gets kind of boring after a while.

Are there any easy to pack snacks or foods that I could get extra calories from? I don't have a thermos so anything that needs to be heated (or cooled) is probably not going to work that well. I was thinking something small that is more of a snack food that I could get extra calories and protein from, but it's so hard to make it through 7 hours of school where the only thing I can eat for lunch is a BLT and a bag of chips and some water.

I was thinking string cheese, but leaving them in my bag will probably end up crushing them and making them really warm and a little squishy. Any suggestions are appreciated.
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
October 11 2013 10:46 GMT
#1291
Nuts! But they are not the cheapest. If they where I think I would eat them all day.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
October 11 2013 10:57 GMT
#1292
On October 11 2013 19:46 Garbels wrote:
Nuts! But they are not the cheapest. If they where I think I would eat them all day.

I just haven't found nuts I like other than peanuts (yeah I know they're technically not a nut) and almonds (high in O3 and low-moderate in protein, kind of high in fiber). I'm thinking maybe walnuts?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 11 2013 10:58 GMT
#1293
I could chum cashews all day.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 11 2013 11:56 GMT
#1294
On October 11 2013 12:58 Najda wrote:
Do you just drink it? It says it's orange flavored, is it acutally not horrible tasting, as in I could mix it in with a fruit smoothie and still be happy with the taste?

It wasn't terrible but I'd be hesitant to mix it with anything. I've tried and it usually ends up in my barely swallowing the concoction down :\

The capsules are easier but not as economical plus the quality is probably less relatively.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 11 2013 22:20 GMT
#1295
I'm trying to bulk clean but I feel it's so difficult to eat the required amount. I started a myfitness diary and apparently I need to eat over 5000 cal a day just for maintenance. No wonder I've been thin (skinnyfat?) for so long. One issue is that I sleep almost 12 hours and I can't eat the first few hours after waking up due to nausea so there's only about 10 hours to eat. It gets a bit easier if you do snacks, fruits, nuts etc but just eating vegetables with meat/chicken/fish and occasionally rice is so difficult.
For example yesterday I forced myself a gainer and protein drink as breakfast. Then I ate 1kg minced meat with tomatoes spices and some vegetables. Lots of butter to fry too. Some lime and carrots. Later, a few bananas and nut mix.
more detailed
It's almost ridiculous how much effort I need to put in to get bigger, I don't even see how people can gain so much weight without any effort. I must be missing something.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 23:54:28
October 11 2013 23:53 GMT
#1296
On October 12 2013 07:20 Shauni wrote:
I'm trying to bulk clean but I feel it's so difficult to eat the required amount. I started a myfitness diary and apparently I need to eat over 5000 cal a day just for maintenance. No wonder I've been thin (skinnyfat?) for so long. One issue is that I sleep almost 12 hours and I can't eat the first few hours after waking up due to nausea so there's only about 10 hours to eat. It gets a bit easier if you do snacks, fruits, nuts etc but just eating vegetables with meat/chicken/fish and occasionally rice is so difficult.
For example yesterday I forced myself a gainer and protein drink as breakfast. Then I ate 1kg minced meat with tomatoes spices and some vegetables. Lots of butter to fry too. Some lime and carrots. Later, a few bananas and nut mix.
more detailed
It's almost ridiculous how much effort I need to put in to get bigger, I don't even see how people can gain so much weight without any effort. I must be missing something.


eat more constantly. don't force yourself to eat 1kg of meat at a time, eat 350g at three different times an hour apart, it's much easier that way.

also wtf 5k cals? I don't see how that's possible without you being a pro athlete. What kind of modifiers are you using on myfitnesspal?
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 12 2013 00:08 GMT
#1297
On October 12 2013 08:53 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 07:20 Shauni wrote:
I'm trying to bulk clean but I feel it's so difficult to eat the required amount. I started a myfitness diary and apparently I need to eat over 5000 cal a day just for maintenance. No wonder I've been thin (skinnyfat?) for so long. One issue is that I sleep almost 12 hours and I can't eat the first few hours after waking up due to nausea so there's only about 10 hours to eat. It gets a bit easier if you do snacks, fruits, nuts etc but just eating vegetables with meat/chicken/fish and occasionally rice is so difficult.
For example yesterday I forced myself a gainer and protein drink as breakfast. Then I ate 1kg minced meat with tomatoes spices and some vegetables. Lots of butter to fry too. Some lime and carrots. Later, a few bananas and nut mix.
more detailed
It's almost ridiculous how much effort I need to put in to get bigger, I don't even see how people can gain so much weight without any effort. I must be missing something.


eat more constantly. don't force yourself to eat 1kg of meat at a time, eat 350g at three different times an hour apart, it's much easier that way.

also wtf 5k cals? I don't see how that's possible without you being a pro athlete. What kind of modifiers are you using on myfitnesspal?


Well that lunch was split up into 3 parts. I didn't eat it all at once. Only modifier is 180 minute badminton, I'm not usually counting jogging/walk/lift/bodyweight training so some days it could be higher.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 12 2013 01:23 GMT
#1298
On October 12 2013 09:08 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 08:53 phyre112 wrote:
On October 12 2013 07:20 Shauni wrote:
I'm trying to bulk clean but I feel it's so difficult to eat the required amount. I started a myfitness diary and apparently I need to eat over 5000 cal a day just for maintenance. No wonder I've been thin (skinnyfat?) for so long. One issue is that I sleep almost 12 hours and I can't eat the first few hours after waking up due to nausea so there's only about 10 hours to eat. It gets a bit easier if you do snacks, fruits, nuts etc but just eating vegetables with meat/chicken/fish and occasionally rice is so difficult.
For example yesterday I forced myself a gainer and protein drink as breakfast. Then I ate 1kg minced meat with tomatoes spices and some vegetables. Lots of butter to fry too. Some lime and carrots. Later, a few bananas and nut mix.
more detailed
It's almost ridiculous how much effort I need to put in to get bigger, I don't even see how people can gain so much weight without any effort. I must be missing something.


eat more constantly. don't force yourself to eat 1kg of meat at a time, eat 350g at three different times an hour apart, it's much easier that way.

also wtf 5k cals? I don't see how that's possible without you being a pro athlete. What kind of modifiers are you using on myfitnesspal?


Well that lunch was split up into 3 parts. I didn't eat it all at once. Only modifier is 180 minute badminton, I'm not usually counting jogging/walk/lift/bodyweight training so some days it could be higher.


what do oyu have in there for height/weight/activity level?
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 12 2013 10:06 GMT
#1299
On October 12 2013 10:23 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 09:08 Shauni wrote:
On October 12 2013 08:53 phyre112 wrote:
On October 12 2013 07:20 Shauni wrote:
I'm trying to bulk clean but I feel it's so difficult to eat the required amount. I started a myfitness diary and apparently I need to eat over 5000 cal a day just for maintenance. No wonder I've been thin (skinnyfat?) for so long. One issue is that I sleep almost 12 hours and I can't eat the first few hours after waking up due to nausea so there's only about 10 hours to eat. It gets a bit easier if you do snacks, fruits, nuts etc but just eating vegetables with meat/chicken/fish and occasionally rice is so difficult.
For example yesterday I forced myself a gainer and protein drink as breakfast. Then I ate 1kg minced meat with tomatoes spices and some vegetables. Lots of butter to fry too. Some lime and carrots. Later, a few bananas and nut mix.
more detailed
It's almost ridiculous how much effort I need to put in to get bigger, I don't even see how people can gain so much weight without any effort. I must be missing something.


eat more constantly. don't force yourself to eat 1kg of meat at a time, eat 350g at three different times an hour apart, it's much easier that way.

also wtf 5k cals? I don't see how that's possible without you being a pro athlete. What kind of modifiers are you using on myfitnesspal?


Well that lunch was split up into 3 parts. I didn't eat it all at once. Only modifier is 180 minute badminton, I'm not usually counting jogging/walk/lift/bodyweight training so some days it could be higher.


what do oyu have in there for height/weight/activity level?


78kg / 193 cm / active
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 19:28:47
October 12 2013 19:28 GMT
#1300
On October 12 2013 19:06 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 10:23 phyre112 wrote:
On October 12 2013 09:08 Shauni wrote:
On October 12 2013 08:53 phyre112 wrote:
On October 12 2013 07:20 Shauni wrote:
I'm trying to bulk clean but I feel it's so difficult to eat the required amount. I started a myfitness diary and apparently I need to eat over 5000 cal a day just for maintenance. No wonder I've been thin (skinnyfat?) for so long. One issue is that I sleep almost 12 hours and I can't eat the first few hours after waking up due to nausea so there's only about 10 hours to eat. It gets a bit easier if you do snacks, fruits, nuts etc but just eating vegetables with meat/chicken/fish and occasionally rice is so difficult.
For example yesterday I forced myself a gainer and protein drink as breakfast. Then I ate 1kg minced meat with tomatoes spices and some vegetables. Lots of butter to fry too. Some lime and carrots. Later, a few bananas and nut mix.
more detailed
It's almost ridiculous how much effort I need to put in to get bigger, I don't even see how people can gain so much weight without any effort. I must be missing something.


eat more constantly. don't force yourself to eat 1kg of meat at a time, eat 350g at three different times an hour apart, it's much easier that way.

also wtf 5k cals? I don't see how that's possible without you being a pro athlete. What kind of modifiers are you using on myfitnesspal?


Well that lunch was split up into 3 parts. I didn't eat it all at once. Only modifier is 180 minute badminton, I'm not usually counting jogging/walk/lift/bodyweight training so some days it could be higher.


what do oyu have in there for height/weight/activity level?


78kg / 193 cm / active


I'm 193 cm and 90kg. I bulk right now at ~3500 cals, but besides lifting I'm pretty sedentary.

I was maintaining at about 3700 cals, 84kg when I was the most active I have ever been. That included 12 hours/week rugby practice AND two full 80 min matches saturdays, 5 days/week lifting for 1-2 hours per session, 12 hours/week swimming, 5-10 miles/day walking to class and work, moderately physical job, and some occasional pickup basketball.

with those stats, aiming for 5k calories is probably WAY more than you need.
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