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DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
August 05 2011 12:13 GMT
#9481
I've been deadlifting since march and I think I'm at about 50kg now with ease. However I'm a bit scared to go heavier because of injuries and shit. A friend's mom who is a kinesist is always babbeling about how bad deadlifts are etc etc. How do I overcome this fear ? Also, I'm not that sure if I'm doing it right. I have little bit of a downward arch in my back when I'm deadlifting.Good ? Bad?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 12:18:55
August 05 2011 12:17 GMT
#9482
On August 05 2011 21:13 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
I've been deadlifting since march and I think I'm at about 50kg now with ease. However I'm a bit scared to go heavier because of injuries and shit. A friend's mom who is a kinesist is always babbeling about how bad deadlifts are etc etc. How do I overcome this fear ? Also, I'm not that sure if I'm doing it right. I have little bit of a downward arch in my back when I'm deadlifting.Good ? Bad?


Post a vid of your form (from the side). We can critique
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 05 2011 12:32 GMT
#9483
On August 05 2011 21:13 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
I've been deadlifting since march and I think I'm at about 50kg now with ease. However I'm a bit scared to go heavier because of injuries and shit. A friend's mom who is a kinesist is always babbeling about how bad deadlifts are etc etc. How do I overcome this fear ? Also, I'm not that sure if I'm doing it right. I have little bit of a downward arch in my back when I'm deadlifting.Good ? Bad?


Done with proper form, deadlifts won't injure you. Done with poor form, they'll do it faster than almost any other exercise. Downward arch to the back does not sound good at all - post a video of you doing deadlifts, and the people in this thread can check out your form and give advice.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
August 05 2011 12:36 GMT
#9484
On August 05 2011 21:13 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
I've been deadlifting since march and I think I'm at about 50kg now with ease. However I'm a bit scared to go heavier because of injuries and shit. A friend's mom who is a kinesist is always babbeling about how bad deadlifts are etc etc. How do I overcome this fear ? Also, I'm not that sure if I'm doing it right. I have little bit of a downward arch in my back when I'm deadlifting.Good ? Bad?


whats a kinesist? Doesnt sound like she knows much, no offense. Deadlift is an awesome exercise. Yes there is risk of injury if you do it wrong. So just do it right and reap the rewards watch some videos on youtube, record yourself and post it here so we can tell you if youre doing it wrong.
Dont skip one of the best exercises out there because youre afraid! Learn how to do it right and you will love it. Guaranteed!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
August 05 2011 12:44 GMT
#9485
I think if I start full Paleo (and like 5 beers a week), and plan out the meals a week in advance I shouldn't have any problems with it.

How much would full paleoing 4.2k cals cost per week, by the way? Not completely sure if that's viable as a student.
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geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 12:46:38
August 05 2011 12:45 GMT
#9486
On August 05 2011 21:32 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 21:13 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
I've been deadlifting since march and I think I'm at about 50kg now with ease. However I'm a bit scared to go heavier because of injuries and shit. A friend's mom who is a kinesist is always babbeling about how bad deadlifts are etc etc. How do I overcome this fear ? Also, I'm not that sure if I'm doing it right. I have little bit of a downward arch in my back when I'm deadlifting.Good ? Bad?


Done with proper form, deadlifts won't injure you. Done with poor form, they'll do it faster than almost any other exercise. Downward arch to the back does not sound good at all - post a video of you doing deadlifts, and the people in this thread can check out your form and give advice.

When I started, I was most scared of deadlifts, but honestly I'm more afraid of screwing up squats now. I've already managed to hurt my knee a bit and stalled progress for nearly 2 weeks, and I still just can not seem to do them with any confidence. I think my form is good now, I just have an aversion to putting too much into a lift for fear that I will accidentally put stress on my back or knee incorrectly and get an injury or even just fall over with the weight. It's preventing me from being able to handle heavier weights with any confidence.

For some reason I don't have that problem at all with any of the other lifts. I feel like I can push myself a lot harder and get the most out of them, even deadlifts. I don't really know how to get over this
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 12:58:33
August 05 2011 12:54 GMT
#9487
On August 05 2011 21:45 geno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 21:32 phyre112 wrote:
On August 05 2011 21:13 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
I've been deadlifting since march and I think I'm at about 50kg now with ease. However I'm a bit scared to go heavier because of injuries and shit. A friend's mom who is a kinesist is always babbeling about how bad deadlifts are etc etc. How do I overcome this fear ? Also, I'm not that sure if I'm doing it right. I have little bit of a downward arch in my back when I'm deadlifting.Good ? Bad?


Done with proper form, deadlifts won't injure you. Done with poor form, they'll do it faster than almost any other exercise. Downward arch to the back does not sound good at all - post a video of you doing deadlifts, and the people in this thread can check out your form and give advice.

When I started, I was most scared of deadlifts, but honestly I'm more afraid of screwing up squats now. I've already managed to hurt my knee a bit and stalled progress for nearly 2 weeks, and I still just can not seem to do them with any confidence. I think my form is good now, I just have an aversion to putting too much into a lift for fear that I will accidentally put stress on my back or knee incorrectly and get an injury or even just fall over with the weight. It's preventing me from being able to handle heavier weights with any confidence.

For some reason I don't have that problem at all with any of the other lifts. I feel like I can push myself a lot harder and get the most out of them, even deadlifts. I don't really know how to get over this


Squats are the reason I said "almost any exercise." Bad squats are even worse than bad deadlifts imo. I did the same thing with squats; busted up my knee and couldn't walk for a week, couldn't do lower body exercises for a month and a half, couldn't do squats for even longer. But I reset the weight, got my form under control, and started moving right on back up after my knee healed. If you're really worried about it, post up a form video and this thread will check it out; squat more often, but increase the weight slowly and you won't even notice the weight getting heavier.


On August 05 2011 21:44 BouBou.865 wrote:
I think if I start full Paleo (and like 5 beers a week), and plan out the meals a week in advance I shouldn't have any problems with it.

How much would full paleoing 4.2k cals cost per week, by the way? Not completely sure if that's viable as a student.


Hard to judge when you're in a different country. Also depends how heavily you want to lean on thinks like milk/eggs, or do you want to take it to the other end, and go grass fed meats and tons of veggies?

I will say that I ate paleo during the last year of university for pretty cheap, but almost every meal consisted of chicken (buy whole chickens and cut them up yourself - cheaper) turkey, or fish, and Broccoli or carrots (fresh or steamed) or Milk eggs and bacon. Snacks were always broccoli, carrots, or almonds =/. Paleo can be fun, while still being healthy, but it's expensive to go that way.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
August 05 2011 13:05 GMT
#9488
On August 05 2011 21:13 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
I've been deadlifting since march and I think I'm at about 50kg now with ease. However I'm a bit scared to go heavier because of injuries and shit. A friend's mom who is a kinesist is always babbeling about how bad deadlifts are etc etc. How do I overcome this fear ? Also, I'm not that sure if I'm doing it right. I have little bit of a downward arch in my back when I'm deadlifting.Good ? Bad?


Videotape your form and see that you've been doing it right.

If the form is good => add weight steadily (being at only 50kg from march is bluntly put weak as hell)

If form is bad => work on that and then add weight.

As for curing fear of injuries in the "big" lifts (squat/deadlift) having proper form and consistently reviewing that it is still good is imo the best way. When you know that you are doing it right and know that doing the movement right isn't going to hurt you...you cant go wrong with that
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 05 2011 13:18 GMT
#9489
Should have gone to the gym this morning.... But instead I'm eating greek yogurt and watching the boxer v yellow match. I'll go tonight.

Clearly I have my priorities in order.
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
August 05 2011 13:27 GMT
#9490
I should have been asleep 2 and a half hours ago. Boxer vs yellow is always a priority (I'll just oversleep like crazy and workout later).
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 14:30:26
August 05 2011 14:28 GMT
#9491
On August 05 2011 21:44 BouBou.865 wrote:
I think if I start full Paleo (and like 5 beers a week), and plan out the meals a week in advance I shouldn't have any problems with it.

How much would full paleoing 4.2k cals cost per week, by the way? Not completely sure if that's viable as a student.


its pretty expensive. especially if youre not doing gomad, because a gallon (4 litres) of milk gives you like 2400 calories already.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 05 2011 14:43 GMT
#9492
Milk is not paleo btw.... but if you're not allergic I don't see a problem
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
August 05 2011 15:00 GMT
#9493
http://www.mtv.com/videos/true-life-im-the-big-girl/1667111/playlist.jhtml#series=2211&seriesId=5232&channelId=1

mtv true life about a 75+ womens lifter. I think she is #2 or 3 in usa.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Jiffymix
Profile Joined April 2010
United States43 Posts
August 05 2011 15:07 GMT
#9494
On August 05 2011 12:43 dudeman001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 09:34 Jiffymix wrote:
Hey guys have any of you, especially those who go heavy on cardio, experienced intermittent chest pain? I've been doing a lot of jogging and MMA (high-intensity workouts) recently and have been getting these pains in my chest for no apparent reason. I went to the doc for a physical a few weeks ago and my bp was a little low (84/68) but they recognized that I was a runner and said that it wasn't a big deal. Thanks in advance.

Have you only just recently began exercising? If so then the sudden presence of jogging + MMA could mean you're just a little fatigued.

Beyond that I don't have much advice, I maybe dealt with very minuscule chest pain in cross country and it was just a sign that I needed to rest. How often do you do both activities? Do you ever give yourself off days?


I've been running for a few years, but for the past month or two I've been either running or doing MMA almost everyday, and it's the first time it's been so rigorous. I think you're right, I just need rest. I've met my weight loss goals anyway so I'm gonna focus less on cardio and more on strengthening once school starts. Thanks!
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
August 05 2011 15:16 GMT
#9495
I have 2K in euro's saved up and parents will give me 600/month to live on. Also I can get a 4K/month job for 4 months next year. Therefore I just bought The Paleo Solution and the associated cookbook. Not looking forward to spending like 700 euro's a month on food at all, though. Oh well, I'll read the book and come up with a decision.

Is Paleo something where taking pasta/milk for a day is a very big deal, or is half paleoing already a big plus to your health and fitness?
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
August 05 2011 15:29 GMT
#9496
On August 06 2011 00:00 AoN.DimSum wrote:
http://www.mtv.com/videos/true-life-im-the-big-girl/1667111/playlist.jhtml#series=2211&seriesId=5232&channelId=1

mtv true life about a 75+ womens lifter. I think she is #2 or 3 in usa.


hehe pretty interesting. I liked glen and jon's cameo appearances
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 05 2011 16:00 GMT
#9497
On August 06 2011 00:16 BouBou.865 wrote:
I have 2K in euro's saved up and parents will give me 600/month to live on. Also I can get a 4K/month job for 4 months next year. Therefore I just bought The Paleo Solution and the associated cookbook. Not looking forward to spending like 700 euro's a month on food at all, though. Oh well, I'll read the book and come up with a decision.

Is Paleo something where taking pasta/milk for a day is a very big deal, or is half paleoing already a big plus to your health and fitness?


Usually if you want to see decent results you want to do at least 80/20 rule.... major results tend to be closer to 95/5 or full

Depending on how poorly you were eating before of course
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
August 05 2011 16:18 GMT
#9498
On August 06 2011 00:16 BouBou.865 wrote:
I have 2K in euro's saved up and parents will give me 600/month to live on. Also I can get a 4K/month job for 4 months next year. Therefore I just bought The Paleo Solution and the associated cookbook. Not looking forward to spending like 700 euro's a month on food at all, though. Oh well, I'll read the book and come up with a decision.

Is Paleo something where taking pasta/milk for a day is a very big deal, or is half paleoing already a big plus to your health and fitness?


WTF do you do to get 4k euro/month?
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 17:04:31
August 05 2011 17:01 GMT
#9499
On August 06 2011 00:16 BouBou.865 wrote:
I have 2K in euro's saved up and parents will give me 600/month to live on. Also I can get a 4K/month job for 4 months next year. Therefore I just bought The Paleo Solution and the associated cookbook. Not looking forward to spending like 700 euro's a month on food at all, though. Oh well, I'll read the book and come up with a decision.

Is Paleo something where taking pasta/milk for a day is a very big deal, or is half paleoing already a big plus to your health and fitness?


I like to see it as a guideline rather than a religion. I think I'm about 90/10 when I eat at home, but I wouldn't let it stopping me from having a normal life when I am eating out.

On August 05 2011 21:44 BouBou.865 wrote:
I think if I start full Paleo (and like 5 beers a week), and plan out the meals a week in advance I shouldn't have any problems with it.

How much would full paleoing 4.2k cals cost per week, by the way? Not completely sure if that's viable as a student.



In the States, it wasn't that expensive. Chicken, beef, pork and eggs were all cheap, especially when purchased in bulks ("family packs", "club packs", etc.). Food is probably a lot more expensive in Europe though, so only you can be the judge as prices depend heavily on geographic locations.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
August 05 2011 17:26 GMT
#9500
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