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Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 14:12:57
June 14 2011 14:11 GMT
#7161
Honestly I'm not a fan of your tummy. Try to cut your diet back and reduce your carb intake. Also you don't need that small macca's coke. Get lifting again as soon as you can. Pick a program and stick to it. Turn that fat into muscle!

EDIT: Sinep really puts it perfectly below me.
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
June 14 2011 14:11 GMT
#7162
On June 14 2011 23:02 Levistus wrote:
i ate like sweet pork earlier with 2 cups of rice for lunch. now im about to eat a chicken leg with spaghetti and cup of rice + small coke from mcdonald's. i don't eat a lot i think but maybe my metabolism is super slow.


bullshit. you have been eating a lot of junkfood and you have paid the price. this is not a case of genetics and certainly not a case of your metabolism being slow. you need to educate yourself about nutrition and food (you're still drinking sugar?). a staple of any lifter's diet should be large quantities of meat and vegetables. it doesn't matter if you "don't eat a lot" if what you eat is high kcal density (the mctasty burger from mcdonalds is like 800-900kcal alone, and hardly filling for that value). 100grams of chocolate is 550kcal while 100grams of chicken breast is 100kcal. the chicken breast is more filling by far as well.

imo, you need to spend time researching the actual content of what you're eating. read labels before you buy things etc. leangains has some great methodology for lifetsyle/dieting but the prerequisite is that you are somewhat educated about what you eat.
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
June 14 2011 14:13 GMT
#7163
On June 14 2011 23:06 Malinor wrote:
Again, what are your numbers (start and end) on all those lifts?. How long did you run the programm?


dunno how long but i don't think i got to 2 months.

3x5 all
squat 90 or 100lbs->145lbs
deadlift 110lbs-> 130lbs (didn't wanna try heavier i'm scared lol)
bench 40 or maybe 50 lbs -> 75lbs
overhead i forgot cause i stopped. my shoulder keeps cracking noise

i do some isolations but not impt to state here the details



my bar is 20lbs only btw.
hey man just curious
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 14:25:05
June 14 2011 14:23 GMT
#7164
On June 14 2011 23:11 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 23:02 Levistus wrote:
i ate like sweet pork earlier with 2 cups of rice for lunch. now im about to eat a chicken leg with spaghetti and cup of rice + small coke from mcdonald's. i don't eat a lot i think but maybe my metabolism is super slow.


bullshit. you have been eating a lot of junkfood and you have paid the price. this is not a case of genetics and certainly not a case of your metabolism being slow. you need to educate yourself about nutrition and food (you're still drinking sugar?). a staple of any lifter's diet should be large quantities of meat and vegetables. it doesn't matter if you "don't eat a lot" if what you eat is high kcal density (the mctasty burger from mcdonalds is like 800-900kcal alone, and hardly filling for that value). 100grams of chocolate is 550kcal while 100grams of chicken breast is 100kcal. the chicken breast is more filling by far as well.

imo, you need to spend time researching the actual content of what you're eating. read labels before you buy things etc. leangains has some great methodology for lifetsyle/dieting but the prerequisite is that you are somewhat educated about what you eat.


yea i guess but i checked, the burger i eat is 330 cals which is mcdonalds cheeseburger. damn i need to learn how much calories i really get from these stuff. sometimes i eat 3 normal sized hotdogs(much smaller than sandwhich hotdog) with rice and fried egg for lunch and dinner. (cant cook).

is pineapple-orange juice not good as well? i can only drink water?
hey man just curious
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 14 2011 14:28 GMT
#7165
On June 14 2011 22:43 Levistus wrote:
good news guys! it's a girl! lol
only the lower part of my tummy is soft though

[image loading]

i think you would look a lot better if you stand up taller, shoulders back a bit more etc.

Ive been lazy this year, need to hit the gym again (need to buy membership first.

Though ive lost weight since the beggining of the year, so its not all bad.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
June 14 2011 14:29 GMT
#7166
On June 14 2011 23:23 Levistus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 23:11 Sinep wrote:
On June 14 2011 23:02 Levistus wrote:
i ate like sweet pork earlier with 2 cups of rice for lunch. now im about to eat a chicken leg with spaghetti and cup of rice + small coke from mcdonald's. i don't eat a lot i think but maybe my metabolism is super slow.


bullshit. you have been eating a lot of junkfood and you have paid the price. this is not a case of genetics and certainly not a case of your metabolism being slow. you need to educate yourself about nutrition and food (you're still drinking sugar?). a staple of any lifter's diet should be large quantities of meat and vegetables. it doesn't matter if you "don't eat a lot" if what you eat is high kcal density (the mctasty burger from mcdonalds is like 800-900kcal alone, and hardly filling for that value). 100grams of chocolate is 550kcal while 100grams of chicken breast is 100kcal. the chicken breast is more filling by far as well.

imo, you need to spend time researching the actual content of what you're eating. read labels before you buy things etc. leangains has some great methodology for lifetsyle/dieting but the prerequisite is that you are somewhat educated about what you eat.


yea i guess but i checked, the burger i eat is 330 cals which is mcdonalds cheeseburger. damn i need to learn how much calories i really get from these stuff. sometimes i eat 3 normal sized hotdogs(much smaller than sandwhich hotdog) with rice and fried egg for lunch and dinner. (cant cook).

is pineapple-orange juice not good as well? i can only drink water?


again, read the labels, read the ingredients. more often than not, fruit juices are stuffed with sugar. even if they aren't, they are almost always made from concentrate and have the same kcal density as sugar anyway.
water is the best choice regardless. eat the fruit instead
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
June 14 2011 14:32 GMT
#7167
On June 14 2011 23:23 Levistus wrote:
yea i guess but i checked, the burger i eat is 330 cals which is mcdonalds cheeseburger. damn i need to learn how much calories i really get from these stuff. sometimes i eat 3 normal sized hotdogs(much smaller than sandwhich hotdog) with rice and fried egg for lunch and dinner. (cant cook).

is pineapple-orange juice not good as well? i can only drink water?
Get a notepad and write down every single thing you eat in the next week. Then figure out the calories you are actually eating each day and where they come from (ie. protein, fat, carbs). Make this your goal for this week.

Pineapple-orange juice is better than coke by far. However you should try and cut it out of your diet while losing weight. Water should be your main liquid intake. Read the nutrition links in the OP. They really helped my understanding of what constitutes a good diet.

Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
June 14 2011 14:36 GMT
#7168
are fried chickens bad if theyre from mcdonalds? im so hungry right now i don't know what to eat anymore. i only have hotdogs in my ref
hey man just curious
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 14:47:15
June 14 2011 14:36 GMT
#7169
On June 14 2011 23:23 Levistus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 23:11 Sinep wrote:
On June 14 2011 23:02 Levistus wrote:
i ate like sweet pork earlier with 2 cups of rice for lunch. now im about to eat a chicken leg with spaghetti and cup of rice + small coke from mcdonald's. i don't eat a lot i think but maybe my metabolism is super slow.


bullshit. you have been eating a lot of junkfood and you have paid the price. this is not a case of genetics and certainly not a case of your metabolism being slow. you need to educate yourself about nutrition and food (you're still drinking sugar?). a staple of any lifter's diet should be large quantities of meat and vegetables. it doesn't matter if you "don't eat a lot" if what you eat is high kcal density (the mctasty burger from mcdonalds is like 800-900kcal alone, and hardly filling for that value). 100grams of chocolate is 550kcal while 100grams of chicken breast is 100kcal. the chicken breast is more filling by far as well.

imo, you need to spend time researching the actual content of what you're eating. read labels before you buy things etc. leangains has some great methodology for lifetsyle/dieting but the prerequisite is that you are somewhat educated about what you eat.


yea i guess but i checked, the burger i eat is 330 cals which is mcdonalds cheeseburger. damn i need to learn how much calories i really get from these stuff. sometimes i eat 3 normal sized hotdogs(much smaller than sandwhich hotdog) with rice and fried egg for lunch and dinner. (cant cook).

is pineapple-orange juice not good as well? i can only drink water?


Ugh. This counting calorie stuff is worthless to you if you are just counting bad calories. Here's why you look fat: You eat mcdonalds and spaghetti and probably white rice, and drink coke. It doesn't matter that your burger was 'only' 330 calories, 200 of those calories are probably empty (white bread has a lot of empty calories) and most of that crappy processed burger is just fat and processed ingredients.

It doesn't matter if you eat below maintenance or above maintenance, if you are eating garbage with junk calories you will probably still be fat. Fix your diet, stop going to mcdonalds - or any fast food place for that matter. Stay away from pasta as well unless you get the healthy kind of noodles, and even then keep 'em limited.

Cooking is easy, here's how you can do it: Get a grill. Turn grill on, put chicken on grill. Cook for 7-8 minutes, turn chicken over, cook another 7-8 minutes (this is for a thick piece of chicken). Should be cooked all the way through now. Congratulations! You cooked chicken!

Vegetables: You can buy them raw, no cooking necessary. Or buy them in a can, drop em in a bowl, and microwave them. You'll find these days that most "side" foods (rice potatoes vegetables) can be cooked in a microwave.

Can't cook isn't an excuse. You're telling me you can't follow simple directions on a piece of cardboard? I doubt it.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 14:46:20
June 14 2011 14:37 GMT
#7170
On June 14 2011 23:13 Levistus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 23:06 Malinor wrote:
Again, what are your numbers (start and end) on all those lifts?. How long did you run the programm?


dunno how long but i don't think i got to 2 months.

3x5 all
squat 90 or 100lbs->145lbs
deadlift 110lbs-> 130lbs (didn't wanna try heavier i'm scared lol)
bench 40 or maybe 50 lbs -> 75lbs
overhead i forgot cause i stopped. my shoulder keeps cracking noise

i do some isolations but not impt to state here the details



my bar is 20lbs only btw.


Ok, those numbers seem pretty in line with what your pictures look like: You are just weak, didn't train heavy at all and just ate more than before.

Best case scenario: You ran SS for 6weeks to get from 90lb squat to 145lb squat. Given that in the beginning you are supposed to increase by 10lb per session, that is like 6workouts max. If you did 5lb, that is at best 12 workouts...

SS has 18 workouts in 6 weeks, so you did not train properly, not even close. And the above numbers are the best case scnenario for your best lift... don't even get me started on the other lifts. You are scared of deadlifts, stopped overhead because of cracking noises (WTF) and bench press like a 12 year old. No power clenas, no barbell rows.
Your squat is ~1xbw, your bench ~0.6bw.
Plus, you don't even remember your starting weights


Here is the hard truth in one sentence: What you did was not training, but just eating more.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Snapplecakes
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway78 Posts
June 14 2011 14:40 GMT
#7171
On June 14 2011 23:36 Levistus wrote:
are fried chickens bad if theyre from mcdonalds? im so hungry right now i don't know what to eat anymore. i only have hotdogs in my ref


what do you think? does the word "fried" sound healthy to you?
SQUATS AND OATS!
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
June 14 2011 14:47 GMT
#7172
On June 14 2011 23:37 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 23:13 Levistus wrote:
On June 14 2011 23:06 Malinor wrote:
Again, what are your numbers (start and end) on all those lifts?. How long did you run the programm?


dunno how long but i don't think i got to 2 months.

3x5 all
squat 90 or 100lbs->145lbs
deadlift 110lbs-> 130lbs (didn't wanna try heavier i'm scared lol)
bench 40 or maybe 50 lbs -> 75lbs
overhead i forgot cause i stopped. my shoulder keeps cracking noise

i do some isolations but not impt to state here the details



my bar is 20lbs only btw.


Ok, those numbers seem pretty in line with what your pictures look like: You are just weak, didn't train heavy at all and just ate more than before.

Best case scenario: You ran SS for 6weeks to get from 90lb squat to 145lb squat. Given that in the beginning you are supposed to increase by 10lb per session, that is like 6workouts max. If you did 5lb, that is at best 12 workouts...

SS has 18 workouts in 6 weeks, so you did not train properly, not even close. And the above numbers are the best case scnenario for your best lift... don't even get me started on the other lifts. You are scared of deadlifts, stopped overhead because of cracking noises (WTF) and bench press like a 12 year old. No power clenas, no barbell rows.
Your squat is 1xbw your bench ~0.6bw.
Plus, you don't even remember your starting weights


Here is the hard truth in one sentence: What you did was not training, but just eating more.

don't be like that to me i get anxious when i lift i have panic disorder so i don't try as hard as the others. i feel anxious usually. get nauseous. don't tell me to just vomit cause when i get panic attacks it doesn't feel good so i avoid it.

i just thought hey ill eat under maintenance while training so i'll develop my muscles to shape them while losing fat.
hey man just curious
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
June 14 2011 14:47 GMT
#7173
Starting to look like an online intervention... levistus don't run away! Let us help you start again and do things right this time...
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
June 14 2011 15:00 GMT
#7174
On June 14 2011 23:47 vicariouscheese wrote:
Starting to look like an online intervention... levistus don't run away! Let us help you start again and do things right this time...


yea man. it's really hard for me right now cause of where i live. i really wanna go home now but i still have 1 year and a half to go. i don't really go to the gym cause i have a gym at home. i'd love to run outside now to jog but my agoraphobia is messin me up. my condo is like 2 blocks away from my school so if i feel like i have to poop i can run fast to my place.

ok i have a rice cooker a sauce pot and a frying pan. give me some foods to buy from grocery (i'll ask a relative to do for me btw. might poop on the way). btw is it alright if i pick thighs over breasts? thanks guys

hey man just curious
Snapplecakes
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway78 Posts
June 14 2011 15:05 GMT
#7175
thighs are way fattier than the actualy breasts so no not really if you wanna keep it lean
SQUATS AND OATS!
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
June 14 2011 15:14 GMT
#7176
ok i'll try to not eat the bad stuff for now and only drink water. i think i'll get in better shape just by doing that. need to survive this 1 yr and a half.
hey man just curious
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 15:39:35
June 14 2011 15:30 GMT
#7177
On June 14 2011 23:47 Levistus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 23:37 Malinor wrote:
On June 14 2011 23:13 Levistus wrote:
On June 14 2011 23:06 Malinor wrote:
Again, what are your numbers (start and end) on all those lifts?. How long did you run the programm?


dunno how long but i don't think i got to 2 months.

3x5 all
squat 90 or 100lbs->145lbs
deadlift 110lbs-> 130lbs (didn't wanna try heavier i'm scared lol)
bench 40 or maybe 50 lbs -> 75lbs
overhead i forgot cause i stopped. my shoulder keeps cracking noise

i do some isolations but not impt to state here the details



my bar is 20lbs only btw.


Ok, those numbers seem pretty in line with what your pictures look like: You are just weak, didn't train heavy at all and just ate more than before.

Best case scenario: You ran SS for 6weeks to get from 90lb squat to 145lb squat. Given that in the beginning you are supposed to increase by 10lb per session, that is like 6workouts max. If you did 5lb, that is at best 12 workouts...

SS has 18 workouts in 6 weeks, so you did not train properly, not even close. And the above numbers are the best case scnenario for your best lift... don't even get me started on the other lifts. You are scared of deadlifts, stopped overhead because of cracking noises (WTF) and bench press like a 12 year old. No power clenas, no barbell rows.
Your squat is 1xbw your bench ~0.6bw.
Plus, you don't even remember your starting weights


Here is the hard truth in one sentence: What you did was not training, but just eating more.


i just thought hey ill eat under maintenance while training so i'll develop my muscles to shape them while losing fat.


that would be a good idea if you actually did that. but eating at mcdonalds all the time will inevitably lead to becoming a fatso (IF you dont train hard, which obviously you didnt/couldnt. mcdonalds is pretty good for bulking, but you have to train hard as well to "balance it out" so to speak)

also, "cant cook" is not an acceptable excuse for eating junk all the time. its not hard at all. throw some meat and some veggies in a pan, brown it, cover it and wait 5-10 minutes (depending on what meat you are cooking) and its done. if its not cooked enough, just put it back in the pan for another couple of minutes. its not rocket science and everybody on this planet who has the money to eat at mcdonalds all the time can do it.

dont be scared to try new things man it wont help you in life - especially when its so easy to do it right and the reward is so big!

check the OP: there is a great shopping list which has all the things you need. but really, just get any vegetable and some meat. thats all there is to it (more or less).

"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
June 14 2011 16:03 GMT
#7178
On June 15 2011 00:30 Zafrumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 23:47 Levistus wrote:
On June 14 2011 23:37 Malinor wrote:
On June 14 2011 23:13 Levistus wrote:
On June 14 2011 23:06 Malinor wrote:
Again, what are your numbers (start and end) on all those lifts?. How long did you run the programm?


dunno how long but i don't think i got to 2 months.

3x5 all
squat 90 or 100lbs->145lbs
deadlift 110lbs-> 130lbs (didn't wanna try heavier i'm scared lol)
bench 40 or maybe 50 lbs -> 75lbs
overhead i forgot cause i stopped. my shoulder keeps cracking noise

i do some isolations but not impt to state here the details



my bar is 20lbs only btw.


Ok, those numbers seem pretty in line with what your pictures look like: You are just weak, didn't train heavy at all and just ate more than before.

Best case scenario: You ran SS for 6weeks to get from 90lb squat to 145lb squat. Given that in the beginning you are supposed to increase by 10lb per session, that is like 6workouts max. If you did 5lb, that is at best 12 workouts...

SS has 18 workouts in 6 weeks, so you did not train properly, not even close. And the above numbers are the best case scnenario for your best lift... don't even get me started on the other lifts. You are scared of deadlifts, stopped overhead because of cracking noises (WTF) and bench press like a 12 year old. No power clenas, no barbell rows.
Your squat is 1xbw your bench ~0.6bw.
Plus, you don't even remember your starting weights


Here is the hard truth in one sentence: What you did was not training, but just eating more.


i just thought hey ill eat under maintenance while training so i'll develop my muscles to shape them while losing fat.


that would be a good idea if you actually did that. but eating at mcdonalds all the time will inevitably lead to becoming a fatso (IF you dont train hard, which obviously you didnt/couldnt. mcdonalds is pretty good for bulking, but you have to train hard as well to "balance it out" so to speak)

also, "cant cook" is not an acceptable excuse for eating junk all the time. its not hard at all. throw some meat and some veggies in a pan, brown it, cover it and wait 5-10 minutes (depending on what meat you are cooking) and its done. if its not cooked enough, just put it back in the pan for another couple of minutes. its not rocket science and everybody on this planet who has the money to eat at mcdonalds all the time can do it.

dont be scared to try new things man it wont help you in life - especially when its so easy to do it right and the reward is so big!

check the OP: there is a great shopping list which has all the things you need. but really, just get any vegetable and some meat. thats all there is to it (more or less).



yeah dude. i'm 27 now just graduated 2 yrs(9 yrs staying at home). 1 more yr for degree. trying hard to not lose to my illnesses or disorders. thanks guys!

FIGHTING!!!
hey man just curious
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
June 14 2011 16:24 GMT
#7179
Wow, I feel incredibly sore today. I think my last few lifting days I've been lifting with some soreness and it's only compounded the problem it seems like. Might take the day off to stretch out real well. But DAMN I want to LIFT.

And speaking of the soreness; I was very fatigued last time I lifted but figured I'd tough it out. After squats I felt like I could barely stand. And now two days later I still have soreness in my quads, which up to this point I have never had soreness in my quads after squatting. Was it just due to fatigue? Or because I lifted sore in other areas did I overcompensate and thus produce more stress on other areas.

Also, I gotta get a scanner to show you guys these pictures I found. Was flipping through a random old photo album that my dad had out for whatever reason. Tons of old family photos from like the 1930s-1950s and shit. There a few of my grandfather lifting in his backyard. And by lifting I mean Oly lifts. There's one of him locking out a split jerk (it's pretty fuzzy though) and a real good one of him just smiling and (I presume) doing presses.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 14 2011 16:28 GMT
#7180
On June 14 2011 20:22 rEiGN~ wrote:
Seriously, watch these guys lift: http://www.youtube.com/user/BROZKNOWS

I wonder what they mean by back off squats, and why the guy recommends looking up when squatting as opposed to looking down which is what Rippetoe says.


I think back off squats are lower weight sets you take after your max sets.

Example:
Work up to the max set for squat
70/1
140/1
180/1
200/1 <--max
170/3 <--- back off set.



@decaf yeah that snatch triple was sloppy lol. Do you have videos of your jerk? how does it look now?
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