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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 04:24:39
April 21 2011 04:22 GMT
#3741
As far as sets and reps go standardly on most forums it's written

sets x reps @ weight
3x5 @ 250 lbs
or 3x5 250 lbs
or 5/5/5 250 lbs
or 5-5-5 250 lbs
or whatever else you want to do it.

Standard weightlifting notation for logging/planning a program/programming is

weight x reps x sets
250x5x3

Either way is fine.... you should *always* qualify with a weight though so it's not confusing.

I think most of the old school russian texts use the latter stuff 250x5x3 and even some of the newer stuff uses it sometimes.

BUt more common is the 3x5 @ weight so that's what you'll tend to see around here
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 21 2011 04:27 GMT
#3742
On April 21 2011 13:22 eshlow wrote:
As far as sets and reps go standardly on most forums it's written

sets x reps @ weight
3x5 @ 250 lbs
or 3x5 250 lbs
or 5/5/5 250 lbs
or 5-5-5 250 lbs
or whatever else you want to do it.

Standard weightlifting notation for logging/planning a program/programming is

weight x reps x sets
250x5x3

Either way is fine.... you should *always* qualify with a weight though so it's not confusing.

I think most of the old school russian texts use the latter stuff 250x5x3 and even some of the newer stuff uses it sometimes.

BUt more common is the 3x5 @ weight so that's what you'll tend to see around here

Maybe I'm just an idiot, but what exactly should I be doing? >.>
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 21 2011 05:18 GMT
#3743
2 years on this series of threads and I'm still unsure about notation.

Fuck it i'll just go with 5-5-5.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 21 2011 05:20 GMT
#3744
On April 20 2011 19:11 Zafrumi wrote:
I went to the supermarket just now to buy some lunch. when I returned, a coworker looked at me in disbelief (I was carrying two bags stuffed with food) and said "is that your lunch??" I smiled and replied "why yes it is!". she still wouldnt believe me lol

speaking of food: this is what my dad made for dinner last night (and tons of it)
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POWA!!


picssss
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 21 2011 05:31 GMT
#3745
On April 21 2011 13:27 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 13:22 eshlow wrote:
As far as sets and reps go standardly on most forums it's written

sets x reps @ weight
3x5 @ 250 lbs
or 3x5 250 lbs
or 5/5/5 250 lbs
or 5-5-5 250 lbs
or whatever else you want to do it.

Standard weightlifting notation for logging/planning a program/programming is

weight x reps x sets
250x5x3

Either way is fine.... you should *always* qualify with a weight though so it's not confusing.

I think most of the old school russian texts use the latter stuff 250x5x3 and even some of the newer stuff uses it sometimes.

BUt more common is the 3x5 @ weight so that's what you'll tend to see around here

Maybe I'm just an idiot, but what exactly should I be doing? >.>


SS is 3 sets of 5 repetitions. Easy enough
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 21 2011 05:34 GMT
#3746
Reading the book seems so fruitless lol.

I know understand how to do all this in theory, but realy have no idae how to do it in practice >.>
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
April 21 2011 06:19 GMT
#3747
On April 21 2011 14:34 Froadac wrote:
Reading the book seems so fruitless lol.

I know understand how to do all this in theory, but realy have no idae how to do it in practice >.>


1. Read the book.
2. perform the motion. Focus on putting your weight directly upward over your toes, and squatting down to parallel.
3. Take a video of you doing the squat
4. Assess video for correct form
5. fix what you see that is wrong.

When you think you have the basics down, post the video here and let us help.

Really the motion is mostly natural. Weight back on your heals, shoulders back, bar up nice and high on your traps. Back verticalish, arched, sit back almost like it's a chair, knees in line with tows, never traveling forward, then stand back up. Other than that, it's really about little things.

Deadlifts are ezpz. Shins vertical, squat own and grab bar. Stand up, keeping healthy back arch, set bar back down. Done.

Bench Press this.


Powerclean... Well, I'll let you know when I have them down.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
April 21 2011 07:10 GMT
#3748
ive always wondered this weird question..
does masturbation or ejaculation have any affect on the activities directly afterwards?
like is there a rule "dont cum an hour before gym coz it fucks up your system"
or "masturbate a bit before you go out to temporarily liven up your testosterone"
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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 07:19:11
April 21 2011 07:13 GMT
#3749
On April 21 2011 14:34 Froadac wrote:
Reading the book seems so fruitless lol.

I know understand how to do all this in theory, but realy have no idae how to do it in practice >.>


come on man... we have explained how to do it like 10 times now. its up to you now. stop being a pussy, get in the weight room AND JUST DO IT! you will not die from squatting a 45lbs bar, even if you dont have perfect form in the beginning.

lifting is all about confidence! so be confident, get in there and start doing the work.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4734 Posts
April 21 2011 07:14 GMT
#3750
On April 21 2011 14:34 Froadac wrote:
Reading the book seems so fruitless lol.

I know understand how to do all this in theory, but realy have no idae how to do it in practice >.>


Stop overthinking this. Even if you do everything wrong the first time, at least you will know what a barbell feels like. And a 45pound-barbell probably won't kill you either.

Go to a gym, you put a barbell on your back, you squat down and then you come back up.

Afterwards you lay down on a flat bench and lift that barbell-thingy into the air. (If you are not sure you can lift it, let someone assist you. Gym-trainers are nice people, they want your money so they will help you)

Then you lay that barbell on the floor and pick it up to a height that it touches your private parts.

Now you know how a barbell feels like. Now you can worry about form, adding weights and posting videos so that we can help you.
But stop worrying and start lifting now.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
April 21 2011 07:23 GMT
#3751
On April 21 2011 16:14 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 14:34 Froadac wrote:
Reading the book seems so fruitless lol.

I know understand how to do all this in theory, but realy have no idae how to do it in practice >.>


Stop overthinking this. Even if you do everything wrong the first time, at least you will know what a barbell feels like. And a 45pound-barbell probably won't kill you either.

Go to a gym, you put a barbell on your back, you squat down and then you come back up.

Afterwards you lay down on a flat bench and lift that barbell-thingy into the air. (If you are not sure you can lift it, let someone assist you. Gym-trainers are nice people, they want your money so they will help you)

Then you lay that barbell on the floor and pick it up to a height that it touches your private parts.

Now you know how a barbell feels like. Now you can worry about form, adding weights and posting videos so that we can help you.
But stop worrying and start lifting now.


qft x 10

best way to learn something IS JUST DO ITTTTTT
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 07:52:02
April 21 2011 07:48 GMT
#3752
And just to put it out there, if you are really worried about Power clean your could always do Stronglifts 5x5. Instead of power cleans you will be doing barbel rows, but besides that it's pretty much the same as SS. And yeah you will do 5 sets and 5 reps instead of 3 sets, but it's only at the beginning of the program. You will also start with and empty barbell on all your lifts except for deadlifts.

I still recommend you to do Power cleans, they are awesome ^^


And stop worrying, just do it Very few people do it right the first time they squat, but that's why we start on a low weight ^^
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 21 2011 08:19 GMT
#3753
On April 21 2011 14:34 Froadac wrote:
Reading the book seems so fruitless lol.

I know understand how to do all this in theory, but realy have no idae how to do it in practice >.>


If it's your health you're worried about, film yourself doing squats with no bar and upload it here so we can point things out.

============
Going to +5lbs to Military Press tomorrow.
Time to monster it. If I fail, then the Push Presses I'll do right after will make me monster it next time (thanks for the advice Dimsum )
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 21 2011 08:21 GMT
#3754
I personally think Froadac has a right to be concerned about "getting it right" the first time, because his spinal structure is not "standard" (and that's where the bar is placed during squats)

Hence I recommended he take a video with no bar if he's concerned.

Squat with bar only should be fine though, fwiw.
Anabolicqt
Profile Joined March 2011
United States69 Posts
April 21 2011 08:44 GMT
#3755
Had an intense leg workout today with both good news and bad. Good news is I hit a new max on squat of 495. Bad news is I had major pain in my lower back that I was complaining about some pages ago so no more squats for me. Back to filling up the leg press machine I guess.
Eat, Sleep, Lift......Repeat.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 12:43:57
April 21 2011 08:47 GMT
#3756
Yeah, but there is only so much we can do for him. Every question has been answered in depth either by us or the ss book or both. we cant actually do the lifts for him. I agree that it all sounds pretty weird when you read about all the things involved in the squat. But at some point you just have to stop worrying and trust your body to do what it was programmed to do by evolution for millions of years. Its a very natural movement.

and i dunno, might be a good idea to learn it without the bar. But if he cant or shouldnt squat with just the bar, then i would question whether he should learn the squat at all or just do bodyweight exercises instead. Tons of good stuff you can do with that as well (see op)
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 21 2011 08:54 GMT
#3757
I feel guilty b/c I never read SS
I kind of just watched youtube videos for form and went to bodybuilding.com for basic instructions.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
April 21 2011 08:55 GMT
#3758
On April 21 2011 17:44 Anabolicqt wrote:
Had an intense leg workout today with both good news and bad. Good news is I hit a new max on squat of 495. Bad news is I had major pain in my lower back that I was complaining about some pages ago so no more squats for me. Back to filling up the leg press machine I guess.



Woah nice squat mate. Sorry to hear about your lower back leg press is a poor substitute for the squat
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 08:57:56
April 21 2011 08:57 GMT
#3759
On April 21 2011 17:44 Anabolicqt wrote:
Had an intense leg workout today with both good news and bad. Good news is I hit a new max on squat of 495. Bad news is I had major pain in my lower back that I was complaining about some pages ago so no more squats for me. Back to filling up the leg press machine I guess.


Do I dare say that you may very well be the strongest guy on these forums aside from perhaps Incontrol...

edit: actually, do we have leaderboards for this thread for such things? hahah
Anabolicqt
Profile Joined March 2011
United States69 Posts
April 21 2011 09:07 GMT
#3760
On April 21 2011 17:57 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 17:44 Anabolicqt wrote:
Had an intense leg workout today with both good news and bad. Good news is I hit a new max on squat of 495. Bad news is I had major pain in my lower back that I was complaining about some pages ago so no more squats for me. Back to filling up the leg press machine I guess.


Do I dare say that you may very well be the strongest guy on these forums aside from perhaps Incontrol...

edit: actually, do we have leaderboards for this thread for such things? hahah



The problem is it does me no good if I'm in pain after every squat workout. And incontrol probably has 50lbs of bodyweight on me at least lol.
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