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Cambium

United States16368 Posts

April 19 2011 04:05 GMT

#3561

On April 19 2011 12:41 Froadac wrote:

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What a beast.

You know you want to give me advice on basic exercise tt

weightlifting is easy, it's like playing protoss, just 1a2a

1a - eat real food
2a - SS

thedeadhaji

39489 Posts

April 19 2011 04:25 GMT

#3562

On April 19 2011 13:03 Cambium wrote:

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but i got 10lbs on you

I was 168 last time i measured in the morning (~1.5 weeks ago)

I'm probably 174 now...

Currently 167'ish. Gained like 4kg in a month... -_-
Dont wanna be a fatty AAAHHHHH!

Froadac

United States6733 Posts

April 19 2011 04:26 GMT

#3563

QQ, my low level fitness is insignificant in comparison to your awesome skills

phyre112

United States3090 Posts

April 19 2011 05:02 GMT

#3564

I've got a month left before summer, and I need to do some SERIOUS bulking. I'll probably get a gym membership if I can when I go home - there's a place in town that I think has a summer deal for college kids... But for the first threeish weeks I'm home, I'll be working daily with my dad to build a cross country course at a local high school, and I don't think it'll leave me much energy for hard lifts. If anything, I'll go light two or three times a week just to keep everything together. I'll definitely be getting a full body workout on this job. Cutting and hauling trees, moving rocks, planting grass, spreading wood chips, not to mention running the 5km course a hundred different times. Basically endurance work in 80 degree weather that still demands significant strength. Fuck yeah, gonna keep me from getting to exhausted with lifting, and keep me going strong the rest of the summer. I'll spend the rest of the time basically at the gym, and hopefully volunteering at a hospital, so I've got now until the end of august, with only these three weeks (and finals week) in between to stay away from drinking, sleep well, lift heavy, focus on my diet, and get that extra 20 lean pounds I want in order to be almost-decaf-sexy when I get back for the fall. lololol, maybe I'll finally squat 300 pounds by then, and I can start looking at oly lifting 'n shit.

Only have to hope that I don't need surgery on this knee. Still haven't gotten my MRI, but now it's completely random and unrelated to what kind of work/movement I've done recently as to when it decides to hurt. So there's really nothing I can do for it.

BTW Eshlow, what do you do/did you study/etc. that gives you all this ridiculous fitness knowledge? The stuff about nutrition and lifting and all, I can understand picking up over time, but when we all go to you for injuries, I wonder where this treasure chest of knowledge came from. Explain?

thedeadhaji

39489 Posts

April 19 2011 05:03 GMT

#3565

On April 19 2011 13:26 Froadac wrote:
QQ, my low level fitness is insignificant in comparison to your awesome skills

Dude I was a chubby lil' kid in college. Just ask hotbid who saw me at the peak of my fattiness in 2007 lololol.

AoN.DimSum

United States2983 Posts

April 19 2011 05:08 GMT

#3566

does anyone want to do fitocracy? I dont think im gonna update if no one else is doing it. I think sjarl is the only other, and some guy named mjung?

Froadac

United States6733 Posts

April 19 2011 05:14 GMT

#3567

On April 19 2011 14:03 thedeadhaji wrote:

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Dude I was a chubby lil' kid in college. Just ask hotbid who saw me at the peak of my fattiness in 2007 lololol.

I'm just a tiny lil kid >.>

thedeadhaji

39489 Posts

April 19 2011 05:19 GMT

#3568

On April 19 2011 14:14 Froadac wrote:

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I'm just a tiny lil kid >.>

I was prolly like 22-24% bf

Froadac

United States6733 Posts

April 19 2011 05:27 GMT

#3569

On April 19 2011 14:19 thedeadhaji wrote:

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I was prolly like 22-24% bf

I'm prolly like 5% >.>

thedeadhaji

39489 Posts

April 19 2011 05:35 GMT

#3570

On April 19 2011 14:27 Froadac wrote:

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I'm prolly like 5% >.>

Dude I'm jealous. You're going to be ripped in 3 months.

ShaLLoW[baY]

Canada12499 Posts

April 19 2011 05:37 GMT

#3571

On April 19 2011 12:56 thedeadhaji wrote:

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hey, welcome back

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oh shit sweet, I caught up to you in DL!
(btu getting crushed in presses)

thanks haji

I'm going to bed right now (aka before 7-8am). Fuck exams, I'm getting back into the swing of jackedness.

eshlow

United States5210 Posts

April 19 2011 05:43 GMT

#3572

On April 19 2011 09:28 Froadac wrote:

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I called my physician

"We don't recommend situps due to their lack of effectiveness, and the fact that there is a tiny tiny tiny chance of injury. As of right now, there are no exercise limitations, other than not to exert too much pressure on your neck"

Now can anybody help?

Can you do low weight squats and deadlifts?

That's a good place to start.

If the back is still ailing you can go with some isolation such as reverse hyperextensions or possible back extensions to start as well

That doc is good... situps are terrible in general.

On April 19 2011 14:02 phyre112 wrote:
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Only have to hope that I don't need surgery on this knee. Still haven't gotten my MRI, but now it's completely random and unrelated to what kind of work/movement I've done recently as to when it decides to hurt. So there's really nothing I can do for it.

BTW Eshlow, what do you do/did you study/etc. that gives you all this ridiculous fitness knowledge? The stuff about nutrition and lifting and all, I can understand picking up over time, but when we all go to you for injuries, I wonder where this treasure chest of knowledge came from. Explain?

Doh we'll see about the knee I guess. :\

About 6 years ago I started reading a lot on the interwebz about training.... then about 2-3 years or so after that I started reading up more about nutrition..... then about 1-2 years after that I started reading up more about injuries which has led me to my current career choice in which I am in school now for physical therapy.

Basically, I've learned about 98% of what I know from the internet which means you can too if you know where to look and are willing to read up on things. :p

Used to be huge into debating stuff regarding training/nutrition/injuries but not so much anymore... but you do learn a huge amount from doing that because you actually have to research to back up your position and reconsider points if someone has better arguments/research.

Canada24 Posts

April 19 2011 05:51 GMT

#3573

On April 19 2011 08:39 eshlow wrote:

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On April 19 2011 05:54 JT wrote:

On April 19 2011 00:40 eshlow wrote:

On April 18 2011 14:57 JT wrote:
I have a question in regards to weight training in combination with sports.

I'm 28, 6'1, 187lbs or so. I've been an on and off lifter since I was about 20, but for the most part wasn't all that consistent and wasn't following very good or organized programs.

I've also always played a lot of sports. I did starting strength for 2 months about a year ago and made good progress, but in the last year I've been on and off with weight training. I'm in pretty good shape, probably 12-13% bodyfat and fairly fit and athletic. But I'd like to get into fantastic shape this summer.

If I just wanted to get strong and go for aesthetics as well, I know starting strength would be the way to go. The problem is that I looove to play sports and I want to do a lot of activities this summer that will expend energy.

I do BJJ once or twice a week, play tons of basketball, play in a hardball league, I'm gonna do some mountain biking, etc etc. I also work as a server in a restaurant so I'm walking all day.

I have a feeling that doing starting strength in combination would easily lead to overtraining, so I was wondering if you guys had any recommendations on what kind of strength training program to follow? Pavel Tsatsouline's "PTTP"? Any ideas would be very much appreciated.

If your strength levels have regressed I'd start back with SS 3x a week and reduce vollume to 2x a week once you start getting into much more activities.

On April 18 2011 15:02 Froadac wrote:
So for those aware of my medical history I’ve had a lot of surgeries. All of which really hurt my ability to exercise, and really cut me up >.> I used to be fairly strong, was very athletic, but recently because my back has been bothering me a lot I haven’t. I went to a friend’s house, and their mom is a physical therapist. She said that I should do generally more activities to strengthen my back muscles to support my back. Depending on some of you health and fitness guys to give me some exercises to try. Probably relatively low stress stuff would eb good to start. I’ll probably see a PT in a couple months, but in the interim…
Also, regarding a purely cosmetic standpoint, do you guys have any advice for softening scars. The one on my back isn’t particularly pretty, but at least it has lightened. Despite putting Cocoa butter on the one on my neck for over a year and a half, it still is fairly red. It actually fluctuates with stress levels >.>
So, what specific core, arm, and leg exercises should I be doing. Also neck exercises, although that’s getting really specialized.
Less than attractive pictures of myself follow. If you want to look to hopefully help me, or to gawk, go ahead.
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Ugly scar on neck, that won’t fade.

Scrawny leg, and ugly sock/shoe.

My cut up back.

My chest (It’s not that bent, just trying to bend so I can take the picture >.>)

But specifically in terms of fitness, I just want baseline health. no superhuman lifting, just improving my posture, increasing core strength, and getting my arms and legs reasonably fit. People have said "do situps, do pushups."

Just to make it clear, doctor said to NOT do situps, but that V sit kind of stuff was better.

Also, some specifics, even if conservative would be nice, because I really have no idea AT ALL how much I should be doing. Even when I was more fit (like 13 or 14 lol) I just did sports and got fit, but I've fallen below that threshhold

I'm really small, at 5'4" (Chill sized, lol) and 110 pounds.

What are your actual injuries that you're dealing with?
What are all exercises that the doc has said not to do?
What exercises have you tried that hurt or are ok?
What are your currently level of abilities with exercises that are fine?

So you don't think squatting 2x a week will be too much if I'm doing an hour or two of playing hard every day?

Depends on your individual recovery factors, sleep, nutrition, etc. At least 1x a week is a must... you may be able to do 2x depending on the intensity of said activities and recovery factors

Fair enough, I guess it's hard to give a concrete diagnosis for every situation.

I guess going 2x a week and seeing how it goes would be a good place to start? Workout A on Monday and Workout B on Thursday or something like that? I keep reading that you don't want to mess with the program at all but then again I guess concessions need to be made if I'm going to be doing lots of other activity.

I'm wondering if PTTP would be a better choice. 2 sets of 5 reps for just Bench Press and Deadlift with the second set at 90% of the weight of the first. I asked Pavel himself and he said that it can be done 3-4 times a week in conjunction with other sports and martial arts.

But it seems that you prefer sticking with SS with less volume Eshlow?

Although I'd love the best of all worlds and it would be great to get strong and add a lot of lean muscle, I think my goals for the summer at least are more along the lines of feeling energetic, having fun and getting cut up.

thedeadhaji

39489 Posts

April 19 2011 05:55 GMT

#3574

Going to bulldoze Benchpress 170lbs 3x5 tomorrow.

Goal: catch up to Cambium ^_^

decafchicken

United States20069 Posts

April 19 2011 06:15 GMT

#3575

On April 19 2011 11:03 Froadac wrote:
Teammate in what?

That sounds so tasty though >.>

rugby :D

On April 19 2011 14:19 thedeadhaji wrote:

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I was prolly like 22-24% bf

probably 5 years ago i was 5'6 140 @ 23% bf. back then i thought i'd never be a real athlete again. 6'1 205 10-12%bf holding 320 above his head laughs at that version of decaf.

maliceee

United States634 Posts

April 19 2011 06:20 GMT

#3576

On April 19 2011 05:52 Zafrumi wrote:

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the only way is to eat more

take some creatine, drink TONS of milk (a gallon every day at least) and eat like a truck. if you cant eat enough, maybe try some weight gainer shakes.

there are no hard gainers, only undereaters!

so much money haha, being an intern really sucks when you wanna get bigger.

RosaParksStoleMySeat

Japan926 Posts

April 19 2011 06:43 GMT

#3577

On April 19 2011 15:15 decafchicken wrote:

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rugby :D

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probably 5 years ago i was 5'6 140 @ 23% bf. back then i thought i'd never be a real athlete again. 6'1 205 10-12%bf holding 320 above his head laughs at that version of decaf.

To be fair, you have some seriously natural athleticism

.

Today I learned a hard lesson: don't fuck around with Olympic lifts. I wanted to practice overhead squatting and I figured 50kg would be a good place to start. Well, I tried to snatch that weight up over my head, fucked up with my form, and ended up doing some sort of funky shoulder lift to get the bar over my head. After that I couldn't even manage one rep with overhead squat because I didn't have the balance.

Shoulder hurt for a while after that :\. I couldn't complete my overhead presses today because extending my arm hurts my rotator cuff. I'm gonna have to RICE it up for the next couple of days and hit the gym hard on Sunday.

Anyway, today ended up being a pretty easy lifting day due to my fuckup. I practiced cleans and snatches with only the bar, and I have to say I'm feeling a lot more confident. I'm really getting that second pull down on the clean and being quick under the bar. The only thing that's hard for me to figure out right now is how to NOT slam the bar into my knee yet still drag it up my thighs while extending my hip in the first pull.

Also, I don't want to hit myself on the balls with the barbell again. I think my nuts are still swollen from that.

Anyway, today's lifts:

Overhead squat: bar only, 5x5
Overhead press: 1 set of 55kgx5... I'll do 55kg again and then add 5kg in the next session. I've done 70kgx5 before, but I'm still kinda resetting here.
Clean: 50kg and bar-only practice.
Snatch: bar-only practice and my retarded attempt to snatch 50kg without knowing how.
Chin: 3 sets of 7 each due to my shoulder (didn't feel like I could perform any pushing motions).

Despite my screwy workout today, I'm feeling a lot stronger. I'll be like Dimsum and Decaf in about 12 years at this rate ;P.

thedeadhaji

39489 Posts

April 19 2011 06:59 GMT

#3578

On April 19 2011 15:15 decafchicken wrote:

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rugby :D

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probably 5 years ago i was 5'6 140 @ 23% bf. back then i thought i'd never be a real athlete again. 6'1 205 10-12%bf holding 320 above his head laughs at that version of decaf.

Fuck you and your growth spurt!

thedeadhaji

39489 Posts

April 19 2011 07:00 GMT

#3579

On April 19 2011 15:20 maliceee wrote:

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so much money haha, being an intern really sucks when you wanna get bigger.

Chicken is pretty cheap!
Gallon of whole milk is good too!

If you're lactose intolerant like me you're F'ed tho ^^

RosaParksStoleMySeat

Japan926 Posts

April 19 2011 07:18 GMT

#3580

On April 19 2011 16:00 thedeadhaji wrote:

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Chicken is pretty cheap!
Gallon of whole milk is good too!

If you're lactose intolerant like me you're F'ed tho ^^

For bulking on a budget, I like to recommend the organ meat of dead things--liver, sweetbreads (not actually bread!), kidneys, heart, and tongue are dirt cheap pretty much everywhere because of the "yuck" factor associated with them. In reality, they're pretty fucking tasty and have ridiculously good nutritional value.

Of course, I wouldn't eat only these sources of protein, as that can cause high uric acid levels and subsequent gout. But, I have liver a few times a week, and I recommend it to everyone else here.

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