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On May 31 2011 07:32 Spekulatius wrote: If you wanna get addicted, keep going for some time. And do it regularly, like after each meal. Or when stressed. Or after shopping. Have one with your coffee. I like how you're giving him pointers on how to pick up a nicotine addiction.
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On May 31 2011 04:45 AutomatonOmega wrote: Grats to everyone who's been successfully quitting.
I'm one of the 2 people in the known universe that made it past the age of 30 without having ever actually touched a cigarette to his lips.
Shit's gross man.
Although, I've taken in enough second-hand smoke to drop a mastodon.
Amen brother, amen.
The fuck is wrong with people amirite?
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On June 23 2010 15:14 CatZ.root wrote: <4 days without smoking, how do i join tl quit smoking team? cough cough catz stop smoking
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Alright, this may be a little 
I don't smoke. Never have, never will. Completely personal decision.
However, my best mate has been a longtime smoker, and goes through about a pack a day. He insists that he does it because he wants to. He admits he is addicted and has resigned himself to having a shorter life span, with a lower quality of life. In short he has no incentive to stop.
This leaves me in the following position. I am acutely aware of the damage smoking is doing to him. I am also aware that he would feel better without cigarettes. I really want him to stop, he is an amazing person and I believe his addiction is hurting him. If I had to guess, his belief that he cannot quit is affecting his self-belief with other aspects of his life. Or to put it differently, he would have more confidence if he quit. I am not going to write an essay as to why I think that is the case, suffice it to say that this is what I believe to be true.
So what do I do?
My original response when he started smoking was to get up in face about it. That was 9 years ago. It clearly didn't work. So I gave up trying to make him stop, it was a choice between the friendship and accepting he wanted to smoke. No choice there.
I want him to quit for his own sake but I everytime I raise the issue he gets shitty. He obviously wants to keep smoking and I know telling him to stop is counter-productive. He is also fully aware of the consequences of smoking.
It is frustrating and seriously disappointing to see him throw away his health. There just doesn't seem to be anything I can do.
Sorry for the wall of text, but this is a complicated situation. The information about Carr's book looks good, maybe I'll drop him a copy.
Thanks TL 
Edit: Maybe PM if this is too off topic.
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On May 31 2011 10:50 Probulous wrote:Alright, this may be a little  I don't smoke. Never have, never will. Completely personal decision. However, my best mate has been a longtime smoker, and goes through about a pack a day. He insists that he does it because he wants to. He admits he is addicted and has resigned himself to having a shorter life span, with a lower quality of life. In short he has no incentive to stop. This leaves me in the following position. I am acutely aware of the damage smoking is doing to him. I am also aware that he would feel better without cigarettes. I really want him to stop, he is an amazing person and I believe his addiction is hurting him. If I had to guess, his belief that he cannot quit is affecting his self-belief with other aspects of his life. Or to put it differently, he would have more confidence if he quit. I am not going to write an essay as to why I think that is the case, suffice it to say that this is what I believe to be true. So what do I do? My original response when he started smoking was to get up in face about it. That was 9 years ago. It clearly didn't work. So I gave up trying to make him stop, it was a choice between the friendship and accepting he wanted to smoke. No choice there. I want him to quit for his own sake but I everytime I raise the issue he gets shitty. He obviously wants to keep smoking and I know telling him to stop is counter-productive. He is also fully aware of the consequences of smoking. It is frustrating and seriously disappointing to see him throw away his health. There just doesn't seem to be anything I can do. Sorry for the wall of text, but this is a complicated situation. The information about Carr's book looks good, maybe I'll drop him a copy. Thanks TL  Edit: Maybe PM if this is too off topic.
You just can't do anything about it. It's sad I know but honestly if you bother him about it it will just piss him off. Just let him do what he wants.
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@Probulous you could turn him into a fitness fanatic (start going to gym with him 3 times a week) and that might spark some motivation/realisation in him. its still a long shot
and i agree that he'll probably have to "try quitting" many times before hes really able to. theres no rush to do it, so long as in the back of your mind you know that eventually you're gonna.
there was a drama film i watched that was about a newspaper journalist (or scientist) in the 50s? who had information that the cigarette company's where lying about (the harmfulness of tobacco). he was bound by a court order saying he couldnt disclose the information, and as he tried to go public he received death threats etc etc.
maybe if he watches stuff like that itll fire up some anger in him
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I stopped smoking for the most part after Christmas last year. I'll still have one drunk every now and then if someone offers, but I've completely stopped buying them and smoking sober. We'll see how long I can keep it up. It's a real pain in the ass with three smoking roommates though.
Good luck everyone.
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53 days without smoking oO
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On May 31 2011 10:50 Probulous wrote:Alright, this may be a little  I don't smoke. Never have, never will. Completely personal decision. However, my best mate has been a longtime smoker, and goes through about a pack a day. He insists that he does it because he wants to. He admits he is addicted and has resigned himself to having a shorter life span, with a lower quality of life. In short he has no incentive to stop. This leaves me in the following position. I am acutely aware of the damage smoking is doing to him. I am also aware that he would feel better without cigarettes. I really want him to stop, he is an amazing person and I believe his addiction is hurting him. If I had to guess, his belief that he cannot quit is affecting his self-belief with other aspects of his life. Or to put it differently, he would have more confidence if he quit. I am not going to write an essay as to why I think that is the case, suffice it to say that this is what I believe to be true. So what do I do? My original response when he started smoking was to get up in face about it. That was 9 years ago. It clearly didn't work. So I gave up trying to make him stop, it was a choice between the friendship and accepting he wanted to smoke. No choice there. I want him to quit for his own sake but I everytime I raise the issue he gets shitty. He obviously wants to keep smoking and I know telling him to stop is counter-productive. He is also fully aware of the consequences of smoking. It is frustrating and seriously disappointing to see him throw away his health. There just doesn't seem to be anything I can do. Sorry for the wall of text, but this is a complicated situation. The information about Carr's book looks good, maybe I'll drop him a copy. Thanks TL  Edit: Maybe PM if this is too off topic.
Probulous, I'm like your mate (though i only smoke between 3 and 6 cigs a day), but as a guy who knows he is addicted and just enjoy smoking his 5 cigs a day, I tell you there is absolutely nothing you can do to make him stop.
You can try to motivate him to stop, which is a bit different I guess, or motivate him to slow down his consumption to more reasonable amount (a pack a day is pretty big for me).
Don't face a smoker with the only argument of "smoking is bad". We know it is, but stopping to smoke is a huge ordeal for a smoker, it's really tough on you mentally and physically. Furthermore smoking isn't the only thing you do that kills you slowly everyday, I know it's kind of a shitty excuse but everything you eat, drink nowadays is full of cancerigenous shit. You don't tell a red meat enthusiast to stop to eat meat.
Anyway I know how you feel, because i was in your position before. I started smoking kinda late, i was 21. My brother and sister where smoking before i started, and i felt it was really dumb and swore to never touch a cigarette (I was a bit naive you could say ). But there is not a lot you can do without him letting you do it.
Every smoker as sometime the wish to stop smoking, ask your mate if he ever wanted to stop (I'm pretty sure he'll say yes). You can tell him to come look for you when one of this phase comes and help him nurture his motivation to stop smoking.
That's all the advice I can give.
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I regret that I started to smoke. Trying to quit, it's so hard.
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I stopped smoking in the beginning of March. Before that, was like 7 years of on and off smoking. Really bad stuff. When I run or exercise my lungs still punish me, so I have a long way to go but I'm good knowing that it's only getting better now
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i smoked for a little bit while in college then stopped and now i cant even stand cigaret smoke.
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I will probably try stop smoking this week. i was over 2 years without single ciggy but i started smoking again... Hopefully it will be easy to quit as before,just bought 2 packs on gum and that's it
GL to everyone who is trying to quit smoking :>
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On May 31 2011 10:50 Probulous wrote:Alright, this may be a little  I don't smoke. Never have, never will. Completely personal decision. However, my best mate has been a longtime smoker, and goes through about a pack a day. He insists that he does it because he wants to. He admits he is addicted and has resigned himself to having a shorter life span, with a lower quality of life. In short he has no incentive to stop. This leaves me in the following position. I am acutely aware of the damage smoking is doing to him. I am also aware that he would feel better without cigarettes. I really want him to stop, he is an amazing person and I believe his addiction is hurting him. If I had to guess, his belief that he cannot quit is affecting his self-belief with other aspects of his life. Or to put it differently, he would have more confidence if he quit. I am not going to write an essay as to why I think that is the case, suffice it to say that this is what I believe to be true. So what do I do? My original response when he started smoking was to get up in face about it. That was 9 years ago. It clearly didn't work. So I gave up trying to make him stop, it was a choice between the friendship and accepting he wanted to smoke. No choice there. I want him to quit for his own sake but I everytime I raise the issue he gets shitty. He obviously wants to keep smoking and I know telling him to stop is counter-productive. He is also fully aware of the consequences of smoking. It is frustrating and seriously disappointing to see him throw away his health. There just doesn't seem to be anything I can do. Sorry for the wall of text, but this is a complicated situation. The information about Carr's book looks good, maybe I'll drop him a copy. Thanks TL  Edit: Maybe PM if this is too off topic.
Im a smoker and i perfectly understand your friends POV, there nothing more annoying than some one nagging over and over again about stop smoking, and smoking is bad, and it reduces life time and quality of life.
Im aware of the risks and consequences of smoking, im also aware of the enjoyment it gives me, yes im an addict and yes even tho im addicted to it i enjoy smoking.
Life is full of calculated risks, i can say based on statistics that a good part of the people posting here about smoking being bad are over weight, im not talking about obesity, just simple overweight, you may enjoy an icecream or chocolate or some cakes, i do too, so you take a calculated risk ingesting them, even tho you know that on the long run it might take you a few days of life and a few months of life quality.
Most of us all drink regulary, another calculated risk, it brings enjoyment at the cost of "life time", most of us look at the hot chick waiting for the bus while we're driving, even tho we might crash and die.
Life is filled with choices that shorten it but make it more enjoyable, and for me it makes sense to run those risks so i have a better life instead of a longer one.
This post is not for encouraging people to smoke, or to keep their addiction, its a just a different perspective that some of you didnt think about.
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2 years and 20 days without a cigarette after 13years of heavy smoking. My evil-self-pitying self can suck my cock now; and I also did a marathon (5h28m) to make him shut up forever.
Good luck to everyone trying to quit and respect to the peeps who managed to cut this shitty self destructing habit.
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Smoked ~3-4 packs a week for ~5-6 years. Haven't had one since the middle of March. I didn't read all 18 pages of this thread (sorry!) but I have to say, it's true that you can't quit smoking unless you WANT to quit smoking. The book 'The Easy Way to Stop Smoking' did help out a little, but in my case, quitting smoking was part of a 'quarter life crisis' where I changed half a dozen things about my life. Quit smoking, started a diet, started to excercise, decided to go back to school, quit WoW, and play more then 5 games of SC2 a week :-)..... Now two months later I don't even think about smoking, I've lost 30 pounds, I've been accepted at the college I dropped out of 6 years ago, and I've made a ton of new friends.
I tried to quit a couple times over the last 5 years, but it was always miserable. I WANTED a smoke very often, and I told myself I needed it. The book helped reverse some of my thinking, and the rest of my life changes finished it off. The thought of smoking a cigarette has absolutely no appeal to me anymore.
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i wish i could stop smoking weed...
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I have been using e-ciggies for a week now and using it as a substitute.. Pretty good. Your getting fed the nicotine which your body craves and it simulates the throat hit like you are smoking a real ciggie and it excludes all the toxic chemicals that comes with a normal ciggie so theory ITS HEALTHY!!!... ALL GO GET ONE NOW MFERS!!!
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Inspired by this thread, I've taken this weekend off with my fiance so I can stop smoking (she's there so I don't have to solo-watch our 2 year old while going through nicotine withdrawls.)
I've been smoking for ~4 years at almost a pack a day. Gradually cutting back, only smoked 6 yesterday (was rough) but I kept my self occupied. Today, I cleaned everything I could possibly clean in the house and powerwashed our siding and porch. Only smoked 4 so far. Headaches are rough, and my lungs feel...weird (can't think of a better way to explain it).
The hardest part is breaking the habits that I smoke in. I always love smoking right as I start driving, or right after intense SC2 games, during breaks at work, after eating out at restaurants...etcetc. This post is making me crave 
Anyways, wish me luck!
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