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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
August 28 2015 18:41 GMT
#8961
On August 29 2015 03:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:31 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:29 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:23 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:21 Requizen wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:20 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:53 killerdog wrote:
How long til you americans catch up to proper timezone and we can start gamenight?

Also, was there some huge internet outtage yesterday in america?



Long story short,

Level 3, the Company who maintains ~33% of america's backbone for the internet botch'd its weekly maintenance. Most people on Comcast/Timewarner lost network for a good 16ish hours.

Really? When was that? I have comcast at home and didn't notice anything.


Yesterday around 10am est. It depends on where you are at, the majority of the damage was done to the east coast side of things so I don't know if you would have been affected.


I wasn't personally affected, but I saw something on Reddit this morning about it, and when I got into work it seems that some of our customers were affected as well.


It wasn't a bueno day at work for me yesterday lol. End of month reports and stuff needing to be done and all of a sudden.... Well shit. Accounting was thoroughly displeased.


You do month end reports before month end? Weird.


No one is going to be here next week because Labor Day lol. That's why they're doing them now I guess.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-28 18:44:24
August 28 2015 18:42 GMT
#8962
On August 29 2015 03:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:22 TheYango wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry guys it's been a long time since I could act like a 20 year old again and I have literally nothing to do

You could go spoil your mood by playing Thrill Man's stage again.

Oh dear lord fuck that shit.
It's a massive blemish on what would otherwise be a perfect game imo.

Its a shame red wasn't there to see it because he only played through the other set of 4.

He would have hated that stage, lol.

At the very least I can tell you that if you choose to just do the other 7, and continue onto Death Man on your other save, you aren't actually missing any content. So if it gets to the point where you absolutely can't stand to finish that stage, you don't miss anything by not choosing to finish it.
Moderator
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 28 2015 18:43 GMT
#8963
On August 29 2015 03:41 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:31 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:29 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:23 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:21 Requizen wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:20 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:53 killerdog wrote:
How long til you americans catch up to proper timezone and we can start gamenight?

Also, was there some huge internet outtage yesterday in america?



Long story short,

Level 3, the Company who maintains ~33% of america's backbone for the internet botch'd its weekly maintenance. Most people on Comcast/Timewarner lost network for a good 16ish hours.

Really? When was that? I have comcast at home and didn't notice anything.


Yesterday around 10am est. It depends on where you are at, the majority of the damage was done to the east coast side of things so I don't know if you would have been affected.


I wasn't personally affected, but I saw something on Reddit this morning about it, and when I got into work it seems that some of our customers were affected as well.


It wasn't a bueno day at work for me yesterday lol. End of month reports and stuff needing to be done and all of a sudden.... Well shit. Accounting was thoroughly displeased.


You do month end reports before month end? Weird.


No one is going to be here next week because Labor Day lol. That's why they're doing them now I guess.


Uhhhhh Labor day is Sept 7
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 28 2015 18:44 GMT
#8964
On August 29 2015 03:39 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:31 ComaDose wrote:
I fear that as DLC has become so popular developers are less pressured to deliver a polished and well rounded long experience with the justification that they can add more later and make more money off of it. Potentially to the point of releasing a game with already available DLC, which, while fine for cosmetic things like skins, could include plot arcs kinda like batman arkham knight which is not okay.

I don't actually think this is really a problem. If the base game doesn't have enough content because developers squeezed content out of it into DLC, the gaming population is actually pretty good about responding to that. In general, people are fairly good at evaluating whether the base game on its own is worth the price. And because of how rooted the gaming population is on the internet, word travels very rapidly. For the most part, if the community responds forcefully enough it's not a problem in the long term, because companies will realize it damages their bottom line. The problem in this case isn't that there's DLC, it's that the developers thought it was OK to release an incomplete game--which is hard to tie to being caused by the existence of DLC, even though it correlates to that content being stuffed into DLC.

It's precisely the cosmetics where customers can get nickel-and-dimed due to the lack of competition from custom content producers because people don't put as much thought into buying them.

See Evolve.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 28 2015 18:47 GMT
#8965
On August 29 2015 03:42 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:22 TheYango wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry guys it's been a long time since I could act like a 20 year old again and I have literally nothing to do

You could go spoil your mood by playing Thrill Man's stage again.

Oh dear lord fuck that shit.
It's a massive blemish on what would otherwise be a perfect game imo.

Its a shame red wasn't there to see it because he only played through the other set of 4.

He would have hated that stage, lol.

At the very least I can tell you that if you choose to just do the other 7, and continue onto Death Man on your other save, you aren't actually missing any content. So if it gets to the point where you absolutely can't stand to finish that stage, you don't miss anything by not choosing to finish it.

You clearly don't know me very well.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
August 28 2015 18:47 GMT
#8966
On August 29 2015 03:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:41 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:31 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:29 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:23 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:21 Requizen wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:20 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:53 killerdog wrote:
How long til you americans catch up to proper timezone and we can start gamenight?

Also, was there some huge internet outtage yesterday in america?



Long story short,

Level 3, the Company who maintains ~33% of america's backbone for the internet botch'd its weekly maintenance. Most people on Comcast/Timewarner lost network for a good 16ish hours.

Really? When was that? I have comcast at home and didn't notice anything.


Yesterday around 10am est. It depends on where you are at, the majority of the damage was done to the east coast side of things so I don't know if you would have been affected.


I wasn't personally affected, but I saw something on Reddit this morning about it, and when I got into work it seems that some of our customers were affected as well.


It wasn't a bueno day at work for me yesterday lol. End of month reports and stuff needing to be done and all of a sudden.... Well shit. Accounting was thoroughly displeased.


You do month end reports before month end? Weird.


No one is going to be here next week because Labor Day lol. That's why they're doing them now I guess.


Uhhhhh Labor day is Sept 7


"Thats a week before, better not come to work just to be safe."
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 28 2015 18:48 GMT
#8967
On August 29 2015 03:44 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:39 TheYango wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:31 ComaDose wrote:
I fear that as DLC has become so popular developers are less pressured to deliver a polished and well rounded long experience with the justification that they can add more later and make more money off of it. Potentially to the point of releasing a game with already available DLC, which, while fine for cosmetic things like skins, could include plot arcs kinda like batman arkham knight which is not okay.

I don't actually think this is really a problem. If the base game doesn't have enough content because developers squeezed content out of it into DLC, the gaming population is actually pretty good about responding to that. In general, people are fairly good at evaluating whether the base game on its own is worth the price. And because of how rooted the gaming population is on the internet, word travels very rapidly. For the most part, if the community responds forcefully enough it's not a problem in the long term, because companies will realize it damages their bottom line. The problem in this case isn't that there's DLC, it's that the developers thought it was OK to release an incomplete game--which is hard to tie to being caused by the existence of DLC, even though it correlates to that content being stuffed into DLC.

It's precisely the cosmetics where customers can get nickel-and-dimed due to the lack of competition from custom content producers because people don't put as much thought into buying them.

See Evolve.


*sigh* my heart is so ripped out for that one

On August 29 2015 03:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:42 TheYango wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:22 TheYango wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry guys it's been a long time since I could act like a 20 year old again and I have literally nothing to do

You could go spoil your mood by playing Thrill Man's stage again.

Oh dear lord fuck that shit.
It's a massive blemish on what would otherwise be a perfect game imo.

Its a shame red wasn't there to see it because he only played through the other set of 4.

He would have hated that stage, lol.

At the very least I can tell you that if you choose to just do the other 7, and continue onto Death Man on your other save, you aren't actually missing any content. So if it gets to the point where you absolutely can't stand to finish that stage, you don't miss anything by not choosing to finish it.

You clearly don't know me very well.


"uggggggh I want to explore this whole place" *librarian chasing us down a magic extending corridor*
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-28 18:52:50
August 28 2015 18:49 GMT
#8968
So boys we on for 10pm CAT Magic? Playing some kind of three way will be pretty cool I think so I can watch Yanger fail to make me not feel as bad about the goblin failure.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 28 2015 18:49 GMT
#8969
On August 29 2015 03:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
You clearly don't know me very well.

Oh, I know you'd never skip it.

I just want you to know that you COULD.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-28 19:00:41
August 28 2015 19:00 GMT
#8970
On August 29 2015 03:49 Numy wrote:
So boys we on for 10pm CAT Magic? Playing some kind of three way will be pretty cool I think so I can watch Yanger fail to make me not feel as bad about the goblin failure.

Yeah I think so?
(Is that 5 EST? )

And does anyone else want in?
We could 4 person draft if we get one more...
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 28 2015 19:01 GMT
#8971
On August 29 2015 03:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:44 onlywonderboy wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:39 TheYango wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:31 ComaDose wrote:
I fear that as DLC has become so popular developers are less pressured to deliver a polished and well rounded long experience with the justification that they can add more later and make more money off of it. Potentially to the point of releasing a game with already available DLC, which, while fine for cosmetic things like skins, could include plot arcs kinda like batman arkham knight which is not okay.

I don't actually think this is really a problem. If the base game doesn't have enough content because developers squeezed content out of it into DLC, the gaming population is actually pretty good about responding to that. In general, people are fairly good at evaluating whether the base game on its own is worth the price. And because of how rooted the gaming population is on the internet, word travels very rapidly. For the most part, if the community responds forcefully enough it's not a problem in the long term, because companies will realize it damages their bottom line. The problem in this case isn't that there's DLC, it's that the developers thought it was OK to release an incomplete game--which is hard to tie to being caused by the existence of DLC, even though it correlates to that content being stuffed into DLC.

It's precisely the cosmetics where customers can get nickel-and-dimed due to the lack of competition from custom content producers because people don't put as much thought into buying them.

See Evolve.


*sigh* my heart is so ripped out for that one

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:42 TheYango wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:22 TheYango wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry guys it's been a long time since I could act like a 20 year old again and I have literally nothing to do

You could go spoil your mood by playing Thrill Man's stage again.

Oh dear lord fuck that shit.
It's a massive blemish on what would otherwise be a perfect game imo.

Its a shame red wasn't there to see it because he only played through the other set of 4.

He would have hated that stage, lol.

At the very least I can tell you that if you choose to just do the other 7, and continue onto Death Man on your other save, you aren't actually missing any content. So if it gets to the point where you absolutely can't stand to finish that stage, you don't miss anything by not choosing to finish it.

You clearly don't know me very well.


"uggggggh I want to explore this whole place" *librarian chasing us down a magic extending corridor*

I want to be playing RIGHT NOW
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-28 19:13:46
August 28 2015 19:12 GMT
#8972
On August 29 2015 03:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:42 TheYango wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:22 TheYango wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry guys it's been a long time since I could act like a 20 year old again and I have literally nothing to do

You could go spoil your mood by playing Thrill Man's stage again.

Oh dear lord fuck that shit.
It's a massive blemish on what would otherwise be a perfect game imo.

Its a shame red wasn't there to see it because he only played through the other set of 4.

He would have hated that stage, lol.

At the very least I can tell you that if you choose to just do the other 7, and continue onto Death Man on your other save, you aren't actually missing any content. So if it gets to the point where you absolutely can't stand to finish that stage, you don't miss anything by not choosing to finish it.

You clearly don't know me very well.


"uggggggh I want to explore this whole place" *librarian chasing us down a magic extending corridor*

First character was a dumbass. Very slippery and kinda competent, but casual about everything in a "Well, since I don't grow back, I just need not to get hit" way (he still tries his darndest not to get hit, mind you).

At some point the world fused with a "parallel dimension" one or something and I switched character. People started asking me if, then when I'd bring the first one back. So at some point I switched again to tease them, by making the "parallel world version" of that guy. So technically it was the same person! But not who they wanted. To avoid always playing the same type of character I used the excuse of "split timeline" or close enough to give the new one the same base, but gone in a different direction and upbringing, resulting in a lazy, vulnerable (average Joe, so super weak in the context of the average rpg ) and rather cowardly dude.

And when I see all these intriguing/interesting situations/characters/etc. I get that itch because I want to know, like a puzzle you wanna solve just for the joy of discovering the pieces, putting them together and getting the whole picture. But. I. Can't. because that'd out of character and I refuse to bend things to still get him involved in them too often or when it'd be too artificial.
But it itches so bad! >.<

Man that first character had a bunch of flaws and after playing him so long he had a lot of baggage that restricted him a bunch in other ways, but being able to just jump anywhere made his foolhardiness his best trait.

On August 29 2015 03:31 ComaDose wrote:
I fear that as DLC has become so popular developers are less pressured to deliver a polished and well rounded long experience with the justification that they can add more later and make more money off of it. Potentially to the point of releasing a game with already available DLC, which, while fine for cosmetic things like skins, could include plot arcs kinda like batman arkham knight which is not okay.

oh yeah on disk and cut content is what i men't by what i don't like.

Didn't Yango talk about this when putting the new trend of online games with regular patches on blast for basically providing players with open betas?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
August 28 2015 19:14 GMT
#8973
Sounds real cool. what is CAT though?
ill just walk the dog for a while first....
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-28 19:24:00
August 28 2015 19:23 GMT
#8974
On August 29 2015 04:14 Duvon wrote:
Sounds real cool. what is CAT though?
ill just walk the dog for a while first....

If I had to hazard a guess it's Central Africa Time
So basically numy's talking to himself.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 28 2015 19:24 GMT
#8975
On August 29 2015 03:39 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:31 ComaDose wrote:
I fear that as DLC has become so popular developers are less pressured to deliver a polished and well rounded long experience with the justification that they can add more later and make more money off of it. Potentially to the point of releasing a game with already available DLC, which, while fine for cosmetic things like skins, could include plot arcs kinda like batman arkham knight which is not okay.

I don't actually think this is really a problem. If the base game doesn't have enough content because developers squeezed content out of it into DLC, the gaming population is actually pretty good about responding to that. In general, people are fairly good at evaluating whether the base game on its own is worth the price. And because of how rooted the gaming population is on the internet, word travels very rapidly. For the most part, if the community responds forcefully enough it's not a problem in the long term, because companies will realize it damages their bottom line. The problem in this case isn't that there's DLC, it's that the developers thought it was OK to release an incomplete game--which is hard to tie to being caused by the existence of DLC, even though it correlates to that content being stuffed into DLC.

It's precisely the cosmetics where customers can get nickel-and-dimed due to the lack of competition from custom content producers because people don't put as much thought into buying them.


I understand what you are saying and agree with most of it. Especially that the community has a responsibility to respond and provide feedback and that will keep the companies in check. And of course that custom content producers are good for the community. But I really think that the releasing of incomplete games would be less if they didnt have DLC options to fall back on. I think its now part of the design process to plan to release further content for money, and while thiats not a bad thing by definition, I think its generally having a negative affect.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 28 2015 19:27 GMT
#8976
On August 29 2015 03:41 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:31 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:29 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:23 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:21 Requizen wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:20 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:53 killerdog wrote:
How long til you americans catch up to proper timezone and we can start gamenight?

Also, was there some huge internet outtage yesterday in america?



Long story short,

Level 3, the Company who maintains ~33% of america's backbone for the internet botch'd its weekly maintenance. Most people on Comcast/Timewarner lost network for a good 16ish hours.

Really? When was that? I have comcast at home and didn't notice anything.


Yesterday around 10am est. It depends on where you are at, the majority of the damage was done to the east coast side of things so I don't know if you would have been affected.


I wasn't personally affected, but I saw something on Reddit this morning about it, and when I got into work it seems that some of our customers were affected as well.


It wasn't a bueno day at work for me yesterday lol. End of month reports and stuff needing to be done and all of a sudden.... Well shit. Accounting was thoroughly displeased.


You do month end reports before month end? Weird.


No one is going to be here next week because Labor Day lol. That's why they're doing them now I guess.

we get the 7th off up here which is interesting cause its the latest the first monday of the month can be and all the kiddies will start school so late.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 28 2015 19:30 GMT
#8977
On August 29 2015 04:27 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 03:41 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:31 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:29 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:23 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:21 Requizen wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:20 Cixah wrote:
On August 29 2015 02:53 killerdog wrote:
How long til you americans catch up to proper timezone and we can start gamenight?

Also, was there some huge internet outtage yesterday in america?



Long story short,

Level 3, the Company who maintains ~33% of america's backbone for the internet botch'd its weekly maintenance. Most people on Comcast/Timewarner lost network for a good 16ish hours.

Really? When was that? I have comcast at home and didn't notice anything.


Yesterday around 10am est. It depends on where you are at, the majority of the damage was done to the east coast side of things so I don't know if you would have been affected.


I wasn't personally affected, but I saw something on Reddit this morning about it, and when I got into work it seems that some of our customers were affected as well.


It wasn't a bueno day at work for me yesterday lol. End of month reports and stuff needing to be done and all of a sudden.... Well shit. Accounting was thoroughly displeased.


You do month end reports before month end? Weird.


No one is going to be here next week because Labor Day lol. That's why they're doing them now I guess.

we get the 7th off up here which is interesting cause its the latest the first monday of the month can be and all the kiddies will start school so late.


Nah, it's the same here. Cixah just works for the gub-mint, and they do all kinds of weird shit.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 28 2015 19:32 GMT
#8978
On August 29 2015 04:24 ComaDose wrote:
But I really think that the releasing of incomplete games would be less if they didnt have DLC options to fall back on.

Sure, but I think that's a pointless argument. "DLC" conceptually is an inevitability of digital distribution as we have now. I don't see a conceivable scenario where DLC as a *concept* wouldn't exist. So arguing that it's existence is a negative impact on game development philosophies might be right, but is also an utterly pointless argument to make.
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Dandel Ion
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Austria17960 Posts
August 28 2015 19:34 GMT
#8979
im at my parents so i have nothing to do, but i'd have to install shit eeehh
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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
August 28 2015 19:43 GMT
#8980
gotta check on a friend who hasn't responded to messages.... wml
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