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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
June 22 2017 19:18 GMT
#33661
I don't believe I've purchased a mean streets pack which means i'll get the guaranteed leg in my first 10 packs.

So yeah I'd be salty if I were you.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 22 2017 19:52 GMT
#33662
i thought rng-induced salt was the point of HS in the first place
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 22 2017 20:36 GMT
#33663
If youve been listening to Alaric, rng-induced salt is the point of life.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
June 22 2017 20:40 GMT
#33664
There's different types of salt. You got your kosher, Himalayan, black...
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-22 23:27:03
June 22 2017 22:53 GMT
#33665
Well yeah, if that's what you want, here's how to make Alaric fucking salty 101:

Had most of a box lying around 'cause we didn't draft AKH that much, and the club's bag got lost/stolen so they ask me if I can bring it (basically makes me 6 free drafts later on, unless I ask them to buy me specific packs instead).
Box had 2 mythics already out of it, but we open Rhonas, Oketra, Bontu, Vizier of the Menagerie, and a foil Liliana.

During the draft I move into BW zombie somewhat early, but genius AKH print runs make people to my left share colours anyway, and cards come in huge clumps (B Cartouche, Splendid Agony, Lord of the Accursed and 2 other B cards in a pack, and that was my pick 5 so there may have been another) which means I'm not wheeling anything either and some packs are just empty (P3P1 is cutting Curator of Mysteries 'cause the only cards in my colours are Scarab Feast, Unburden and Supply Caravan, literally).
Clumps fuck me over by putting Start // Finish, Rest, Gustwalker in the same pack and that kind of thing, so my card quality suffers since I'm forced to plug holes in my pool instead of going for quality.
My pack 2 had literally only one red card, and one green card. You go and make signals out of that shit.

Round 1 is again UBw splashing W for Oketra. I manage to beat Liliana + Oketra game 1 'cause I played around topdecking one of my outs (he spent several turns at 1 life and I had bats).
I lose game 2 because my hand would be a synergistic board but I never draw a second swamp while Liliana drops t5, so I have to hit her or he brings back fatties, and barely develop my board 'cause I keep drawing B cards. In the end it's put myself dead on board or she brings back a fatty to lock it further and survive.
Game 3, I have to mulligan, miss a land drop, and we draw because I'd have needed the land a turn earlier (for board development, what with lords and Elite for the pump, etc. and my garbage pool is over half 3-drops), or one more turn of attacking to finish him off. What a start, RIP placing decently.

Round 2 is again a guy who opened Rhonas instead of Liliana, so this time I take a Rhonas to the face, but also Ahn-Crop Crasher x2, Crocodile of the Crossing x2, Trial of Zeal, a couple Magma Sprays... I win the game on the play where he stumbles on mana, and I simply don't play the game at all the others.

Round 3 I win via some dumb luck in a topdecking war.

So I place 4th and look at the mythics thinking about both these garbage print runs fucking up yet another draft (weirdly enough noone drafting B did well, durr), and that foil Fatal Push from a prize pack I used to draft after a pre-release (which exemplified why I didn't do it previously, and why I won't again, along with 10-man pods forcing and picking randomly).

So yeah I'm pretty fucking salty and feel like I've been fucked over in the draft and my games. Considering I'd have cracked most of the packs once the format was over since I wouldn't get to draft them...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 23 2017 08:26 GMT
#33666
On June 23 2017 00:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I've been really apprehensive about Steam Link, but they're on sale today for $15.

https://www.amazon.com/Steam-Link/dp/B016XBGWAQ/

Seems worth to give it a shot.


I have one and it's invaluable. I just lounge in my living room all day streaming my pc to tv and it's great. Haven't particularly used it for games but well worth it at $15.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 23 2017 12:59 GMT
#33667
On June 23 2017 17:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 00:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I've been really apprehensive about Steam Link, but they're on sale today for $15.

https://www.amazon.com/Steam-Link/dp/B016XBGWAQ/

Seems worth to give it a shot.


I have one and it's invaluable. I just lounge in my living room all day streaming my pc to tv and it's great. Haven't particularly used it for games but well worth it at $15.


Well I've got a couple Chromecasts which are absolutely amazing for watching what I want. I'm a bit apprehensive about the Steam Link just because I don't know if I'll be able to get a wired connection down to my living room. But I figure it's worth trying for $15 because I'd love to lounge and play some single player games.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 23 2017 20:13 GMT
#33668
On June 23 2017 04:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 03:40 Seuss wrote:
That doesn't seem necessary. Pretty sure just this is more than enough.

Simply being able to take your saved dust, craft the legendaries you want, and not run face-first into 20 duplicate copies for the rest of the expansion is huge. People are going to easily have 2-3x the legendaries they had before, luck depending. If you don't it's because you were already a lucky bastard.


I was mostly being facetious. I'm just salty that I've approached Jeff-level legendary rates and I have very few Mean Streets cards since I didn't really play last expansion.

I have mixed feelings about my legacy.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35158 Posts
June 23 2017 20:16 GMT
#33669
On June 24 2017 05:13 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 04:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 23 2017 03:40 Seuss wrote:
That doesn't seem necessary. Pretty sure just this is more than enough.

Simply being able to take your saved dust, craft the legendaries you want, and not run face-first into 20 duplicate copies for the rest of the expansion is huge. People are going to easily have 2-3x the legendaries they had before, luck depending. If you don't it's because you were already a lucky bastard.


I was mostly being facetious. I'm just salty that I've approached Jeff-level legendary rates and I have very few Mean Streets cards since I didn't really play last expansion.

I have mixed feelings about my legacy.

If only you plugged it in all the way.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-24 02:15:51
June 24 2017 02:14 GMT
#33670
So about sharing colours...

+ Show Spoiler +
Oketra's Monument, Cast Out shove me into W early, U is underwhelming as usual and I'm hesitating between R and B on my next picks, with an early B cartouche, 2 Consuming Fervors in a row (I only pick one and decide not to see a signal 'cause people don't like it here).
I end up BW again, 'cause that's what seems open despite my bad experience yesterday. Pack 2 is a lucky P2P1 Oketra but aisde from her has very little for me, and there's R flowing quantity-wise, but that ship's sailed and it don't really have the cards/curve so far so really want Thresher Lizards. Considering I cut B a lot and didn't pass much good W either ('cept for foil Dusk // Dawn when I took Cast Out) pack 1 I'm surprised, especially when Start // Finish doesn't wheel (took Compulsory Rest over it, yesterday and the "gold" card making me decide it's not premium and unlikely to be cut by RW or RG decks) and neither does an In Oketra's Name.
I picked up Rags // Riches in the middle of the pack, a Temmet right before the wheel (few 2-drops, ways to make tokens -> why not?) and Fetid Pool as the last card in the pack. Uh, sweet!

Pack 3 turns out to be super poor in W (first W drafter is the one passing me the 5th pack but people between us just opened terrible in that regard), and even Festering Mummies don't wheel. I pass another cartouche for Splendid Agony to have removal, pick Watchers of the Dead just because it's a bear, and Irrigated Farmlands in the middle of the pack for my splash and 'cause it's super poor otherwise.

I'm both surprised that someone else is in BW (zombie cards not wheeling), and that they'd go so far as to pick 2 Festering Mummies, but it turns out the guy 2 spots to my left was RW, opened Liliana's Mastery P2P1 and forced BW zombies off it, to his left is Wx (WU iirc?) and cut all the 2-drops incuding P2P2 and P2P3 Gustwalkers (wtf?) and to his left is another BW zombie... I have no idea how the fuck that happened, and since the guy to the left again is B, I share each colour with 3 players, and my archetype with 2...
On top of that we opened Mastery, a Wayward Servant, a Binding Mummy (picked by Wx guy), 2x In Oketra's Name and that's everything in terms of zombie synergies. So our decks look to be poor piles thrown together. I can't complain, at least I have the Temmet splash and Oketra to save my hide out of nowhere.

Match 1 vs BW zombies
The guy across me, who was more justified in being these colours (but still passed 2x Gustwalkers, I can get one if you've got a stronger W card in the pack but otherwise... ?).
Let's just put it this way: he picked a Devoted Cropmate late pack 1, got his own Dusk // Dawn (not the foil I passed), his own Gravedigger. 2x Fan-Bearer and a couple other cards make his recursion game strong.
I have Rags, Gravedigger, Wander in Death. Our games were grindy. Game 2 he actually floods out but since I have Rags in hand I want him to play a couple creatures, which I can then sweep and play mine, Wander in Death available to further hit. He plays a couple removal and looks out so I finally commit a couple things, including my B Cartouche to shrink his devoted crop-mate... so he Dusks to shrink the board instead.
Crop-mate + Dawn + Gravedigger makes the following turn super complicated for me, 'cause I have Rags, Watchers of the Dead, Miasmic Mummy, Wander in Death (Gravedigger in the yard) which would normally wreck any opponent, and now I have to think about now to give him value instead. I end up going with Rest on Winged Shepherd to reduce the damage done, Rags, and Watchers which I sac during his upkeep so he has to choose between value from Crop-mate or keeping Dawn.
I still lose that game 'cause he's got Oketra's Monument out and I can't play enough blockers, and we draw game 3 'cause these grindy games took ages.
Looking at the games from individual turns was interesting with what we knew from each other's deck, what to commit, and how to sequence stuff, but the match itself was pretty dull and boring aside from these moments, because 2/3s and such crashing into each other can only last so long.

He gets paired up against URw (Drake Haven, Glyphkeeper, As Foretold, Approach, cyclers) and me down, against...
Match 2 vs BW zombies
... the mirror again, this time joking I'll get my revenge against the guy stealing my cards.
Game 1 he's stuck on 2 lands for a couple turns and I end up with Bone Picker + Blighted Bat clock so he concedes.
Game 2 he sticks a t2 Trespasser's Curse, but his hand seems poor. I stay on 2x Blighted Bat to race him and it does the trick, after a B Cartouche and Vizier of Deferment on Liliana's Mastery token makes sure I won't die.
Not much to say after game 1, he had a bomb and cut cards from me but he didn't have synergies either (he had the foil Dusk // Dawn).

Meanwhile my round 1 opponent loses game 2 when t3 As Foretold into board stall makes a t10 free Approach of the Second Sun followed by Trial of Knowledge.
For game 3 he sides in... Embalmer's Tools and gets to play it turn 3 or 4. He can't attack through the 1/3s and such, but milling 5 cards / turn in draft sounds decent when the opponent can't attack either, uh. So said opponent counters with... the Memory half from Commit // Memory. Apparently mills still ends up winning;
He gets rewarded by being paired up again, and me down again (against both opponents from that round again).

Match 3 BG counters
At least I'll know all the B cards in today's pool uh.
Game 1 I get pretty much crushed as he plays an early Trespasser's Curse (what, again? And maindeck this time?) then slams Baleful Ammit, which I can stall with Vizier of Deferment but it still gains him life, then a Cursed Minotaur which 2-for-1s my Bats... on paper I embalmed an Unwavering Initiate and discarded Temmet to Miasmic Mummy so I can clock him at 4 unblockable damage a turn but Scaled Behemoth forces a naked Bone Picker, etc. and even if we trade creatures he doesnt care 'cause he's at 30 life and me below 10 from Ammut hits + the curse. He trades everything while I'm at 1 (read only B Cartouche could save me now) and flashes in a 3/2 after I attack to finish me.
Game 2 goes with me muliganing then getting both mana and colour screwed, while hit by a Miasmic Mummy... I still somehow manage to play Oketra and turn her on in time for him to play Decimator Beetle and attack one. From there he draws more lands, as do I but because I can chump his Soulstinger with a token each turn, then make another a 2/2 unblockable with Temmet the next, I slowly win the race.
Game 3 we both mulligan, he keeps a land without forests and I keep a 5-lander + Temmet, scry Wander in Death bottom, draw a land, then Miasmic Mummy t2. Obviously I slam it and he discards a G creature, a sign that his hand may be awkward. We both play a couple creatures and I let us trade boards again since my flood lets me embalm Temmet and start punching. I can play a couple creatures to hold the fort and prevent a race, and he loses with Scaled Behemoth in hand but only one forest, and a couple turns away from Final Reward to make me rely on Oketra or flyers to win.

Can't really say I'm satisfied with the games. Sure, 2-0-1 puts me at second with a pile that was pilfered by people forcing (BW to my left went 0-3, Wx Gustwalkers went 2-1 but beating 7th place and the weird URw Approach deck that was drafted "for the fun of it" knowing it'd be inefficient) then salvaged by bombs...
But match 1 was a boring grindfest with a couple turns of interesting puzzles, match 2 had that "stuck on 2 lands" thing and match 3 his deck was clearly better than mine but I drew my (mythic) rares and he got colour screwed one game.
And I would have gotten a Rhonas yesterday with that record, don't have one yet.

I didn't think about it enough yesterday, but today's drafting made me realise it in hindsight: BW is a very fragile archetype because aside from the need for payoffs (which get picked outside the pair when they're generally decent), it's a relatively aggressive/tempo-oriented deck, but its 2-drop slot is very shallow:
- Dune Beetle doesn't exist
- you don't want more than maybe 2 Miasmic Mummy because if you fail to get that low curve (or don't get 2 sources to play 2 cards a turn whatever their colours) they can be a hindrance for you
- Gust Walker is picked highly by any W drafter, and pick early period in pack 1
- Binding Mummy somehow seems to be opened rarely from my experience, I've seen drafts with 3x Magma Sprays, Hooded Brawlers, Fan Bearers, or Gust Walkers, but never these (and rarely 2), and even as a pure bear in a RW or GW list it's going to be picked "because it's in-colour"

So it's really hard to get decent chances at a curve-out (the deck's primary way to win, by tapping stuff and finishing with In Oketra's Name, in my experience, that or a go-wide with Stir the Sands and such while Bats/Cursed Minotaurs chip away), and it also means that between the scarcity of decent 2-drops and the specific payoffs, a pod normally can't support 2 people in that pair.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 24 2017 17:25 GMT
#33671
On June 23 2017 21:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 17:26 Holyflare wrote:
On June 23 2017 00:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I've been really apprehensive about Steam Link, but they're on sale today for $15.

https://www.amazon.com/Steam-Link/dp/B016XBGWAQ/

Seems worth to give it a shot.


I have one and it's invaluable. I just lounge in my living room all day streaming my pc to tv and it's great. Haven't particularly used it for games but well worth it at $15.


Well I've got a couple Chromecasts which are absolutely amazing for watching what I want. I'm a bit apprehensive about the Steam Link just because I don't know if I'll be able to get a wired connection down to my living room. But I figure it's worth trying for $15 because I'd love to lounge and play some single player games.


works perfectly well on wireless
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
June 25 2017 23:43 GMT
#33672
Just picked up Motorsport Manager from a steam sale, that game is even more addictive than Civilization.
The one more turn/race syndrome is real.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4836 Posts
June 26 2017 09:14 GMT
#33673
This track always makes me feel bad ass. Use it when you need to.
Taxes are for Terrans
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
June 26 2017 11:32 GMT
#33674
Little nostalgia music, listened to some Juliana Theory on a car trip this weekend:
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 26 2017 11:38 GMT
#33675
Since we were talking about representation with a friend, I asked him to find me a song "on theme" for next karaoke.
Dunno if it was a good idea but at least I discover stuff.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
June 26 2017 16:34 GMT
#33676
Music Monday is pretty different for me.

Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 26 2017 16:52 GMT
#33677
snes classic announced with these games

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Contra III
Donkey Kong Country
Earthbound
Final Fantasy VI
F-Zero
Kirby Super Star
Kirby's Dream Course
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Mega Man X
Secret of Mana
Star Fox
Star Fox 2 (previously unreleased)
Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting
Super Castlevania IV
Super Ghouls & Ghosts
Super Mario Kart
Super Mario RPG
Super Mario World
Super Metroid
Super Punch-Out
Yoshi's Island
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-26 18:59:46
June 26 2017 18:56 GMT
#33678
Wow um
That's pretty tempting.

Edit: what am I saying, no one will actually be able to buy one of these before they disappear from market
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35158 Posts
June 26 2017 19:13 GMT
#33679
Meh, just emulate it. I don't get the hype about these things. Once Starfox2 gets ripped, it will lose all appeal.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 26 2017 19:13 GMT
#33680
3rd recall this year on my 2006 RX8 announced today.

Holy fuck I'm impressed with Mazda's customer support. That is actually unreal to me... my car is 12 years old abd they stopped producing it in 2012.

Like Jesus. Can you imagine Ford doing a blanket replacement recall on a car from 2006 today? O.o

Regardless if they pump out another rotary or not, I think Mazda has me hooked for life. Like 3.5k USD worth of repairs and maintenance for free on a 12 year old car this year. Unbelievable.
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