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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 12 2017 17:09 GMT
#33541
Is Civ multiplayer good?

Looking for chill game to play with the wife.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 17:11:36
June 12 2017 17:11 GMT
#33542
After 20 years of designing sets for limited, WotC FINALLY figures out that 3x big set drafts better than any configuration involving small sets that dilute the themes that work in the big set. You think they would have figured it out ages ago when pretty much anyone's top 5 draft formats of all time are 3x big set and everyone always considers full block drafts to be a downgrade.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 12 2017 17:13 GMT
#33543
On June 13 2017 02:09 iCanada wrote:
Is Civ multiplayer good?

Looking for chill game to play with the wife.


If by "chill" you mean "accidentally playing til 3 AM", then yes. It's super easy to get sucked into "one more turn" syndrome.

I haven't played it a ton, but I'm pretty sure Civ 5 (+ expansions?) is widely regarded as the best.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 12 2017 17:20 GMT
#33544
I thought Civ 4 was the best, although I guess could be confusing to newcomers?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 12 2017 17:24 GMT
#33545
2's better than either anyway
A backwards poet writes inverse.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 12 2017 17:36 GMT
#33546
The chances of getting her to play Civ2 are essentially zero. Lol.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 12 2017 17:39 GMT
#33547
Civ 5 is a ton of fun. It just consumes time though. We almost always did the 2 of us against a bunch of AI , it was just more fun than competing.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 12 2017 17:48 GMT
#33548
On June 13 2017 02:11 TheYango wrote:
After 20 years of designing sets for limited, WotC FINALLY figures out that 3x big set drafts better than any configuration involving small sets that dilute the themes that work in the big set. You think they would have figured it out ages ago when pretty much anyone's top 5 draft formats of all time are 3x big set and everyone always considers full block drafts to be a downgrade.

While this is true in the majority of cases and for the majority of people, I was thinking back to the last few sets... Ogw-bfz was better than triple BFZ, and emn-soi was better than triple SOI. I also personally liked aer better than triple kld.

There was something to having that smaller set present and I'm worried I'm going to miss it a little bit, even though I'm not 100% sure what it is I'd be missing.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 12 2017 18:13 GMT
#33549
emn-soi is the only one id agree with, i unreasonably enjoyed triple bfz
overall its probably gonna make better drafts, or if it sucks at least you can leave the shit behind instead of praying the small set fixes things (when it prob doesnt)

i just want the cores to draft well and we're cool, but im dubious.
but maybe draft special sets will coincide with them, i'd take a conspiracy-like set, just with 1v1 matches instead of edh plz
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35158 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 18:58:49
June 12 2017 18:57 GMT
#33550
PC E3 conference was 2 hours early for some reason... XCOM2 XPAC announced.

Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 12 2017 19:12 GMT
#33551
On June 13 2017 03:57 Gahlo wrote:
PC E3 conference was 2 hours early for some reason... XCOM2 XPAC announced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3bENBYSucQ

i really wanted to like xcom 2 but after about 24 hours of playing it i went back to EW w/ long war.
long war 2 didn't do it for me either
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 20:50:45
June 12 2017 19:18 GMT
#33552
My EMN experience was biased but I liked SOI better. Ideally you'd just mix both in a cube to get EMN's UR spells, SOI's payoffs for Delirium with EMN's enablers (stat boost boring payoff), ditch Emerge and stick with SOI's UG investigate, etc. and you'd get the best of both worlds.
Only using as many sets for a world as needed is going to annoy the story fans when a cliffhanger happens and instead of waiting a month for the follow-up there's a core set in the way.

It'll probably feel weird because I've been used to half the formats letting me use some of the experience from the previous one not to start from 0 and get punished less. Having a big set to process every time is going to take more effort/involvement.
Losing the masterpieces is a bigger deal for constructed because they were driving the prices down, couldn't complain about that. Plus bigger sets could dilute the Standard cards unless the archetypes get diversified enough that more are played, and not the same in all decks.

Dunno what to think about core sets since I started right after the "last" one. They have simpler mechanics, less flavour so they're more straightforward for beginners, right?
I guess if they end up less interesting to draft that just means I'll dump less time (and money) into it from time to time.

Which is convenient 'cause I lost my job again.
They won't keep me after the trial period, due to my lateness and lack of autonomy. The latter has nothing to do with the issues I ran into 2 months ago, and my boss told me it was their mistake, especially not having recruited me for a project lead position, to put me there without more experience.
He did say that with ~5 years of experience more autonomy was expected, especially for a start-up that can't afford to spend too much time for someone, and on my current project that's what the guy above me said. There are things to learn here, especially since I was making an effort to ask questions/help more quickly after how I dug a hole when I was lead and didn't dare show I was out of my depth. Middle ground to hit and all that.
As for the lateness though... I'd started off well, but then drifted back to old (bad) habits, and the whole "be there at 2 PM at the latest, so leave at 1:45 max" slowly becoming "start thinking about getting ready when the clock's almost at 45." Turns out for all the thinking I did about being aware of what others think/deem important and adjusting my priorities, after seeing a psychoogist and my break-up, no progress at all was made in the long run. Looks like I'll need to treat myself as a child and set up punishments for misbehaving to force it upon myself.


Went all folk for music monday.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 20:40:41
June 12 2017 20:39 GMT
#33553
AFAIK, the prevailing opinion is that SOIx3 and KLDx3 are more well-regarded than their full-block counterparts. Opinions are more mixed on BFZx3 but that's mostly because a lot of people really dislike BFZx3--personally I liked BFZx3 more.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 12 2017 23:04 GMT
#33554
On June 13 2017 05:39 TheYango wrote:
AFAIK, the prevailing opinion is that SOIx3 and KLDx3 are more well-regarded than their full-block counterparts. Opinions are more mixed on BFZx3 but that's mostly because a lot of people really dislike BFZx3--personally I liked BFZx3 more.

Not sure where you get your prevailing opinion from but at the very least if you look at the current reddit thread about it, most people's options seem to be closer to mine, although I can also agree where a lot of people said simple 3xogw or 3xemn would have been even better than their draft environments. That in itself actually makes me feel better about the new model.
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 13 2017 05:53 GMT
#33555
On June 13 2017 02:20 iCanada wrote:
I thought Civ 4 was the best, although I guess could be confusing to newcomers?

I think 4 multiplayer is even more garbage than 5 tbh.
If you want some chill games, I recommend you check out some board games. Boardgamearena.com has a decent amount of board games avaliable and pretty good UI.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 13 2017 15:12 GMT
#33556
Aetherworks Marvel banned. Magic Digital Next is nothing, Magic Duels is dead, wait for more news September. I think I'm done with this company.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 13 2017 16:32 GMT
#33557
On June 14 2017 00:12 Numy wrote:
Aetherworks Marvel banned. Magic Digital Next is nothing, Magic Duels is dead, wait for more news September. I think I'm done with this company.

I never had any question that you were anything but, lately. When was the last time you played anyway?
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 13 2017 18:04 GMT
#33558
True, been playing mainly gwent these days. Think I played some pauper a few months back?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 13 2017 18:25 GMT
#33559
well nintendo at e3 has me super hyped now
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 13 2017 18:54 GMT
#33560
On June 14 2017 03:25 Frolossus wrote:
well nintendo at e3 has me super hyped now


Ugh. Saaaaaaame. The pull to get a Switch is strong. But (as Yango was saying to me earlier) the 3DS is getting some great stuff as well.
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