Should take a crumb picture in additional to the crust pick (Crumb is the makeup of air bubbles in a cross section of the loaf). So like cut a slice and let the camera see the air.
Loaf looks good though, The little bow out on the bottom camera side center is because of a kneading mistake or a temperature problem (temperature might be inconsistent inside your oven).
Obviously the bread is gonna taste just as good, but try to punch out the dough a little better and stretch and knead to loaf shape a little more consistently through the whole process next time, and if it still bows out, it might just be an oven thing, and thats okay. You won't win competitions with those imperfections but a lot of folk really like bread with character like that (i prefer it myself).
You could also prevent that by scoring the bread before baking allowing air to escape through the top, rather than bow out the sides. a simple cross shape or square would work for that shape loaf, but if you dont have a sharp enough blade (like a safety razor) then no need for that either.
Also did you use Quick yeast or active dry, or a poolish or other starter? Working with Poolish or other starter creates a more consistent result but it's really not necessary for everyday bread unless you are working with something fancy. Also did you use bread flour or all purpose, did you go traditional, with no oil/fats (like butter, milk) or did you go french and add some dairy in, or italian and add oils.
I think I have the crumb picture somewhere, but I'll have to find it and post it later. In general, it seemed good: there were the tiny, sponge-y air bubbles you'd expect from a standard white bread.
I'm pretty sure it was a kneading mistake, what with this being my first attempt and all. I'll probably try to make the same loaf again sometime soon and either make it into garlic bread or make a slight variation in the baking process just for practice. I'm honestly surprised it looks as good as it does: the recipe called for a loaf pan, but since I don't have one, I kinda just guessed at how it should look free-standing.
I used an active dry yeast that I mixed with the ingredients dry before adding hot water. I know that activating the yeast separately is also a thing (perhaps more common?) so I'll be interested in trying that with another recipe (presumably). Used bread flour and some butter as well.
I pretty much wanted to try this because of watching a bunch of The Great British Baking Show. Now that I've made standard store bread, I'd like to move on to something spicier, like with rosemary and salt or something like that.
On June 05 2017 20:34 AsmodeusXI wrote: I'm pretty sure it was a kneading mistake, what with this being my first attempt and all. I'll probably try to make the same loaf again sometime soon and either make it into garlic bread or make a slight variation in the baking process just for practice. I'm honestly surprised it looks as good as it does: the recipe called for a loaf pan, but since I don't have one, I kinda just guessed at how it should look free-standing.
I used an active dry yeast that I mixed with the ingredients dry before adding hot water. I know that activating the yeast separately is also a thing (perhaps more common?) so I'll be interested in trying that with another recipe (presumably). Used bread flour and some butter as well.
I pretty much wanted to try this because of watching a bunch of The Great British Baking Show. Now that I've made standard store bread, I'd like to move on to something spicier, like with rosemary and salt or something like that.
Don't let the criticism come across too harsh! the loaf is a great first try. and a minor issue like that is like, actually not at all a problem except for "perfection".
The Yeast with dry is a bit weird, but it worked so i can't complain too much. thats usually done with quick yeast, but active dry usually is put in the water with half a cup-> 3/4 cup flour whisked together and let sit 10-15 minutes. (or like 24 hours for a poolish lol)
Adding butter does a lot to making the dough easier to work with. so its a good way to start.
On June 05 2017 19:53 Alaric wrote: Aren't Americans a lot less "bread-inclined" than Europe anyway? So you don't find it just as easily or it costs more than here?
It's not so much that we're less bread inclined as we're a lot less fresh bread inclined. Yeah, bakeries are harder to find and farther away. More metropolitan grocery stores do sell "artisan" breads which are probably anywhere from 12 hours to 3 days old when you see them on the grocery store shelf. But regardless. we buy a lot more not fresh, preservative loaded, pre-sliced factory bread.
On June 06 2017 21:38 dsyxelic wrote: Nvm i suffer
lol rip
Yeah that's a tough situation. What's the space situation like? Is it a dorm, so y'all are just crammed in there?
Its a school 'affiliated' apartment so basically required housing but not run/owned by the school. Shared bedroom/bath. Its pretty small.
Im planning to just try talking with management to see what options are there (like moving out) since i dont think this will be solved with more talking. Also would love to ask how their roommate matching worked since hes literally the complete opposite of what I put on my roommate application, its pretty hilarious.
On June 06 2017 21:38 dsyxelic wrote: Nvm i suffer
lol rip
Yeah that's a tough situation. What's the space situation like? Is it a dorm, so y'all are just crammed in there?
Its a school 'affiliated' apartment so basically required housing but not run/owned by the school. Shared bedroom/bath. Its pretty small.
Im planning to just try talking with management to see what options are there (like moving out) since i dont think this will be solved with more talking. Also would love to ask how their roommate matching worked since hes literally the complete opposite of what I put on my roommate application, its pretty hilarious.
Yeah, I was gonna suggest talking to an RA, so that's probably your best bet - even just to find out what options there are. Could also try getting a humidifier for the room (or convincing your roommate to get one)? I'm not sure if that helps with what sounds like a smokers cough.
He actually does have one so im not really blaming him for the situation (though admittedly the gf over a bit too much), we're just not a good match and I saw this coming a mile away our first month. Like I mentioned before we were the worst possible match on paper and I think we put in our own decent enough efforts to make it work. Not sure if he has any issues with me besides living differently to how he lives but either way I think just moving out would be the best.
All our differences / what I asked for from roommate app:
-cleanliness I asked for 10/10 neatness, dudes messy/dirty af Ever seen shaved pubes left in the bath over the weekend by accident? I did. Never cleans, picks up clothes, kitchen looks like its been bombed -sleep time I put early sleeper, he sleeps late or not at all till morning -drinking/smoking/etc. I put must be none, hes a heavy smoker, vapes, hookah, alcohol, weed, etc. He used to do all in the room till I told him thats prob not cool with the apartment staff if he gets caught and the weed /cigs in particular make the room smell like shit so he does it mainly in living room/outside(big windows on living room, no full open windows in room) -guests I put little to none He went from hosting full blown parties and gf every night till we talked it out to gf here all the time but only half the nights + only small drinking games in living room -asked for 8/10 quietness Hes one of the loudest people ive met and one of those streamers that yell all day while playing fps games. He plays in the living room now but that shits still loud -pets Arent allowed but he has a hamster which would have bothered me with his spinning wheel at night but its quieter than the coughs + they take it with them when not here so it hasnt been an issue
So yeah not that hes a bad person because he has put some effort to accomodate me but you can only do so much to match a completely different lifestyle. I want peace and quiet at the home especially as a full time max credit student with at times, near full time work. Doesnt help he is only 19 so im pretty sure his idea of college atm is different than mine at 24 finishing up a late bachelors. Thankfully I have an excellent roommate/apartment lined up starting september but still got 3 months left.
/Rant
Edit: Oh and while ive been generally understanding he does deserve a fuck you for never bringing these stuff up with me first. Especially stuff like the pet/smoking cigs. If I had allergies or asthma...+secondhand smoking
On June 07 2017 01:26 dsyxelic wrote: He actually does have one so im not really blaming him for the situation (though admittedly the gf over a bit too much), we're just not a good match and I saw this coming a mile away our first month. Like I mentioned before we were the worst possible match on paper and I think we put in our own decent enough efforts to make it work. Not sure if he has any issues with me besides living differently to how he lives but either way I think just moving out would be the best.
All our differences / what I asked for from roommate app:
-cleanliness I asked for 10/10 neatness, dudes messy/dirty af Ever seen shaved pubes left in the bath over the weekend by accident? I did. Never cleans, picks up clothes, kitchen looks like its been bombed -sleep time I put early sleeper, he sleeps late or not at all till morning -drinking/smoking/etc. I put must be none, hes a heavy smoker, vapes, hookah, alcohol, weed, etc. He used to do all in the room till I told him thats prob not cool with the apartment staff if he gets caught and the weed /cigs in particular make the room smell like shit so he does it mainly in living room/outside(big windows on living room, no full open windows in room) -guests I put little to none He went from hosting full blown parties and gf every night till we talked it out to gf here all the time but only half the nights + only small drinking games in living room -asked for 8/10 quietness Hes one of the loudest people ive met and one of those streamers that yell all day while playing fps games. He plays in the living room now but that shits still loud -pets Arent allowed but he has a hamster which would have bothered me with his spinning wheel at night but its quieter than the coughs + they take it with them when not here so it hasnt been an issue
So yeah not that hes a bad person because he has put some effort to accomodate me but you can only do so much to match a completely different lifestyle. I want peace and quiet at the home especially as a full time max credit student with at times, near full time work. Doesnt help he is only 19 so im pretty sure his idea of college atm is different than mine at 24 finishing up a late bachelors. Thankfully I have an excellent roommate/apartment lined up starting september but still got 3 months left.
/Rant
At least it doesn't sound like an asshole meets asshole situation, just an unfortunate matching.
Damn that really sounds like someone at matchmaking was throwing darts. That said, all of those are pretty common things to wish for regardless of your own lifestyle, so when it's sincere and going to be reciprocated and not just luxury copy paste wishes it's hard to identify.
On June 07 2017 01:26 dsyxelic wrote: He actually does have one so im not really blaming him for the situation (though admittedly the gf over a bit too much), we're just not a good match and I saw this coming a mile away our first month. Like I mentioned before we were the worst possible match on paper and I think we put in our own decent enough efforts to make it work. Not sure if he has any issues with me besides living differently to how he lives but either way I think just moving out would be the best.
All our differences / what I asked for from roommate app:
-cleanliness I asked for 10/10 neatness, dudes messy/dirty af Ever seen shaved pubes left in the bath over the weekend by accident? I did. Never cleans, picks up clothes, kitchen looks like its been bombed -sleep time I put early sleeper, he sleeps late or not at all till morning -drinking/smoking/etc. I put must be none, hes a heavy smoker, vapes, hookah, alcohol, weed, etc. He used to do all in the room till I told him thats prob not cool with the apartment staff if he gets caught and the weed /cigs in particular make the room smell like shit so he does it mainly in living room/outside(big windows on living room, no full open windows in room) -guests I put little to none He went from hosting full blown parties and gf every night till we talked it out to gf here all the time but only half the nights + only small drinking games in living room -asked for 8/10 quietness Hes one of the loudest people ive met and one of those streamers that yell all day while playing fps games. He plays in the living room now but that shits still loud -pets Arent allowed but he has a hamster which would have bothered me with his spinning wheel at night but its quieter than the coughs + they take it with them when not here so it hasnt been an issue
So yeah not that hes a bad person because he has put some effort to accomodate me but you can only do so much to match a completely different lifestyle. I want peace and quiet at the home especially as a full time max credit student with at times, near full time work. Doesnt help he is only 19 so im pretty sure his idea of college atm is different than mine at 24 finishing up a late bachelors. Thankfully I have an excellent roommate/apartment lined up starting september but still got 3 months left.
/Rant
At least it doesn't sound like an asshole meets asshole situation, just an unfortunate matching.
I added in an edit but he still gets a fuck you for never bringing stuff up first with me especially for the pet/smoking. If I had asthma/allergies that would be a huge nono. I mostly chalk it up to him being a young college idiot like many new college students who never really had to live with people different from him, but still deserves some flak there imo.
But yeah hopefully can get some options from the office. Heading over after work. Thanks for confirming haha
Sometimes I need a sanity check or another viewpoint to make sure Im not the uptight asshole.
On June 07 2017 01:26 dsyxelic wrote: He actually does have one so im not really blaming him for the situation (though admittedly the gf over a bit too much), we're just not a good match and I saw this coming a mile away our first month. Like I mentioned before we were the worst possible match on paper and I think we put in our own decent enough efforts to make it work. Not sure if he has any issues with me besides living differently to how he lives but either way I think just moving out would be the best.
All our differences / what I asked for from roommate app:
-cleanliness I asked for 10/10 neatness, dudes messy/dirty af Ever seen shaved pubes left in the bath over the weekend by accident? I did. Never cleans, picks up clothes, kitchen looks like its been bombed -sleep time I put early sleeper, he sleeps late or not at all till morning -drinking/smoking/etc. I put must be none, hes a heavy smoker, vapes, hookah, alcohol, weed, etc. He used to do all in the room till I told him thats prob not cool with the apartment staff if he gets caught and the weed /cigs in particular make the room smell like shit so he does it mainly in living room/outside(big windows on living room, no full open windows in room) -guests I put little to none He went from hosting full blown parties and gf every night till we talked it out to gf here all the time but only half the nights + only small drinking games in living room -asked for 8/10 quietness Hes one of the loudest people ive met and one of those streamers that yell all day while playing fps games. He plays in the living room now but that shits still loud -pets Arent allowed but he has a hamster which would have bothered me with his spinning wheel at night but its quieter than the coughs + they take it with them when not here so it hasnt been an issue
So yeah not that hes a bad person because he has put some effort to accomodate me but you can only do so much to match a completely different lifestyle. I want peace and quiet at the home especially as a full time max credit student with at times, near full time work. Doesnt help he is only 19 so im pretty sure his idea of college atm is different than mine at 24 finishing up a late bachelors. Thankfully I have an excellent roommate/apartment lined up starting september but still got 3 months left.
/Rant
At least it doesn't sound like an asshole meets asshole situation, just an unfortunate matching.
I added in an edit but he still gets a fuck you for never bringing stuff up first with me especially for the pet/smoking. If I had asthma/allergies that would be a huge nono. I mostly chalk it up to him being a young college idiot like many new college students who never really had to live with people different from him, but still deserves some flak there imo.
But yeah hopefully can get some options from the office. Heading over after work. Thanks for confirming haha
Sometimes I need a sanity check or another viewpoint to make sure Im not the uptight asshole.
Nah, those are all fairly reasonable expectations for living situations. And I think your assumption is probably correct - I know at 19 I was not picky at all about my surroundings (and in a lot of ways I'm still not). It's not really that surprising that he wouldn't bring things up first. 1 - he doesn't care that much. 2 - it sounds like your living style isn't really obtrusive to his, so he wouldn't really have much to complain about.
EPT
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