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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
June 02 2015 16:55 GMT
#102401
On June 03 2015 01:52 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 01:46 Cixah wrote:
On June 03 2015 01:39 Requizen wrote:
Well that sucked.


How are everyone else's days going?


Pretty ok,

Did you get fired?

No, I just hate giving people bad news and having them be disappointed in me. I want to make everyone happy but this new job is just the right move.

How is your finger?


Still broken, but better. It doesn't hurt when i type anymore.

The foil stamped goyf (Litterally only 1 in the world) is already at 2.5k

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Foil-Tarmogoyf-MM2-Stamped-GP-Vegas-Top-8-Pascal-Maynard-/261911963536

I don't have the funds to try and play here, but damn do I want it.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
June 02 2015 17:15 GMT
#102402
Blatter stepped down :O
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 02 2015 17:28 GMT
#102403
On June 03 2015 02:15 Chexx wrote:
Blatter stepped down :O


He just needed that 5th gold star before leaving.

Man I hope he gets indicted with something.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 02 2015 17:31 GMT
#102404
Fallout 4 confirmed and immediately blatter steps down, coincidence? I think not
Glorious SEA doto
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 02 2015 17:33 GMT
#102405
On June 03 2015 02:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 02:15 Chexx wrote:
Blatter stepped down :O


He just needed that 5th gold star before leaving.

Man I hope he gets indicted with something.


The cynic in me believes he waited until after his reelection in order to prevent Prince Ali bin al-Hussein from becoming FIFA President.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 02 2015 17:39 GMT
#102406
On June 03 2015 00:38 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Dear Jeff.

Blizzard would like to formally apologize for giving you 93 straight packs without a legendary.

Have fun.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I burst out laughing at this. Hilarious.

Scip we should totally just feature you opening it on Iris stream via skype
You can be a guest NPC and your pillow can be your waifu
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 02 2015 17:40 GMT
#102407
On June 03 2015 01:55 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 01:52 Requizen wrote:
On June 03 2015 01:46 Cixah wrote:
On June 03 2015 01:39 Requizen wrote:
Well that sucked.


How are everyone else's days going?


Pretty ok,

Did you get fired?

No, I just hate giving people bad news and having them be disappointed in me. I want to make everyone happy but this new job is just the right move.

How is your finger?


Still broken, but better. It doesn't hurt when i type anymore.

The foil stamped goyf (Litterally only 1 in the world) is already at 2.5k

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Foil-Tarmogoyf-MM2-Stamped-GP-Vegas-Top-8-Pascal-Maynard-/261911963536

I don't have the funds to try and play here, but damn do I want it.

The fact that there's even controversy around this is just so ridiculous to me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 17:41:41
June 02 2015 17:40 GMT
#102408
On June 03 2015 02:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 00:38 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Dear Jeff.

Blizzard would like to formally apologize for giving you 93 straight packs without a legendary.

Have fun.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I burst out laughing at this. Hilarious.

Scip we should totally just feature you opening it on Iris stream via skype
You can be a guest NPC and your pillow can be your waifu


He'll be the essence of Sad Stacks™, pinned to the ground by the Esgogroth stake.

On June 03 2015 02:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 01:55 Cixah wrote:
On June 03 2015 01:52 Requizen wrote:
On June 03 2015 01:46 Cixah wrote:
On June 03 2015 01:39 Requizen wrote:
Well that sucked.


How are everyone else's days going?


Pretty ok,

Did you get fired?

No, I just hate giving people bad news and having them be disappointed in me. I want to make everyone happy but this new job is just the right move.

How is your finger?


Still broken, but better. It doesn't hurt when i type anymore.

The foil stamped goyf (Litterally only 1 in the world) is already at 2.5k

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Foil-Tarmogoyf-MM2-Stamped-GP-Vegas-Top-8-Pascal-Maynard-/261911963536

I don't have the funds to try and play here, but damn do I want it.

The fact that there's even controversy around this is just so ridiculous to me.


wait, why is there controversy?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 17:46:16
June 02 2015 17:45 GMT
#102409
Long story short, there's a huge shitstorm of high-profile MTG players who are 'disappointed in him' because he rare drafted at a GP when he should be playing for the integrity of competition or some shit.

Wow and he's donating half if his proceeds to charity.
Fuck tha hataz. I support rare drafting at all levels :D
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
June 02 2015 17:46 GMT
#102410
On June 03 2015 02:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 02:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 03 2015 00:38 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Dear Jeff.

Blizzard would like to formally apologize for giving you 93 straight packs without a legendary.

Have fun.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I burst out laughing at this. Hilarious.

Scip we should totally just feature you opening it on Iris stream via skype
You can be a guest NPC and your pillow can be your waifu


He'll be the essence of Sad Stacks™, pinned to the ground by the Esgogroth stake.

Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 02:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 03 2015 01:55 Cixah wrote:
On June 03 2015 01:52 Requizen wrote:
On June 03 2015 01:46 Cixah wrote:
On June 03 2015 01:39 Requizen wrote:
Well that sucked.


How are everyone else's days going?


Pretty ok,

Did you get fired?

No, I just hate giving people bad news and having them be disappointed in me. I want to make everyone happy but this new job is just the right move.

How is your finger?


Still broken, but better. It doesn't hurt when i type anymore.

The foil stamped goyf (Litterally only 1 in the world) is already at 2.5k

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Foil-Tarmogoyf-MM2-Stamped-GP-Vegas-Top-8-Pascal-Maynard-/261911963536

I don't have the funds to try and play here, but damn do I want it.

The fact that there's even controversy around this is just so ridiculous to me.


wait, why is there controversy?


Tldr, pro players of outstanding merit and hall of famers damned him to forever never being able to play test with the pros because he didn't take the striktly better choice in burst lightening because it would fit his deck better. Everyone else in the world who understands that you don't look a gift horse in the mouth would take the stamped foil goyf because its a fucking foil goyf.

Pros mad because not the best play, everyone else is like, pros be tricks and hoes.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 02 2015 17:47 GMT
#102411
On June 03 2015 02:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Long story short, there's a huge shitstorm of high-profile MTG players who are 'disappointed in him' because he rare drafted at a GP when he should be playing for the integrity of competition or some shit.

Wow and he's donating half if his proceeds to charity.
Fuck tha hataz. I support rare drafting at all levels :D


I mean, I might understand that stance in some circumstances.

But this is a foil, stamped goyf. They just jelly, they just gonna hate hate hate
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 17:50:45
June 02 2015 17:50 GMT
#102412
Somewhere out there, someone's made the reductive argument conflating throwing your chance at winning the GP (or at least reducing your chances of winning) for the sake of a monetary reward (or in this case, one with significant monetary value) with matchfixing.
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
June 02 2015 17:51 GMT
#102413
On June 03 2015 02:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 02:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Long story short, there's a huge shitstorm of high-profile MTG players who are 'disappointed in him' because he rare drafted at a GP when he should be playing for the integrity of competition or some shit.

Wow and he's donating half if his proceeds to charity.
Fuck tha hataz. I support rare drafting at all levels :D


I mean, I might understand that stance in some circumstances.

But this is a foil, stamped goyf. They just jelly, they just gonna hate hate hate


Soniv, if you ever have the choice to take a foil goyf over and burst lightening and take the burst lightening I will fly to you and end you. There is no way that burst lightening is a better pick when you can hate draft it or take it for value. Ever. Period. The pros are saying this because they don't have to buy cards and such. They literally use company credit cards to pay for their hobby.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 17:54:04
June 02 2015 17:51 GMT
#102414
On June 03 2015 02:50 TheYango wrote:
Somewhere out there, someone's made the reductive argument conflating throwing your chance at winning the GP (or at least reducing your chances of winning) for the sake of a monetary reward (or in this case, one with significant monetary value) with matchfixing.


No.

Stop.

Literally get out.

Edit: looking at his picks he had an evolving wilds and could have splashed the goyf with a single forest. He could have played the goyf, but then the value of the stamped foil goyf goes down.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
June 02 2015 17:56 GMT
#102415
LOL wow, cracking a foiled stamped Goyf? Hell yea I would of given anything for that lol. How far did the guy go anyway?

Been really tempted to buy Divinity: Original Sin right now. Must wait in the hopes for it showing up in sales 10 days from now.....
Forever Young
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 17:58:06
June 02 2015 17:57 GMT
#102416
On June 03 2015 02:50 TheYango wrote:
Somewhere out there, someone's made the reductive argument conflating throwing your chance at winning the GP (or at least reducing your chances of winning) for the sake of a monetary reward (or in this case, one with significant monetary value) with matchfixing.

This is pretty close.

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/386gn8/pascal_maynards_ev_breakdown_whats_the_pick/

Eh..no it's not I didn't read your whole post.

But still.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 02 2015 17:57 GMT
#102417
On June 03 2015 01:39 Requizen wrote:
Well that sucked.


How are everyone else's days going?

It's been raining like Texas here and it's making me so sleepy. ( -_- ) Zzz
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
June 02 2015 17:58 GMT
#102418
On June 03 2015 02:56 sung_moon wrote:
LOL wow, cracking a foiled stamped Goyf? Hell yea I would of given anything for that lol. How far did the guy go anyway?

Been really tempted to buy Divinity: Original Sin right now. Must wait in the hopes for it showing up in sales 10 days from now.....


Lost in the semis but they split prize support anyway at top 4 so it literally didn't matter after top8.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 02 2015 18:01 GMT
#102419
On June 03 2015 02:58 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 02:56 sung_moon wrote:
LOL wow, cracking a foiled stamped Goyf? Hell yea I would of given anything for that lol. How far did the guy go anyway?

Been really tempted to buy Divinity: Original Sin right now. Must wait in the hopes for it showing up in sales 10 days from now.....


Lost in the semis but they split prize support anyway at top 4 so it literally didn't matter after top8.

So is the issue the prize money is being split at that point so you don't "value" draft at that stage? I think it's stupid and would take the goyf but maybe that adds to it.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 18:13:59
June 02 2015 18:03 GMT
#102420
On June 03 2015 02:51 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 02:50 TheYango wrote:
Somewhere out there, someone's made the reductive argument conflating throwing your chance at winning the GP (or at least reducing your chances of winning) for the sake of a monetary reward (or in this case, one with significant monetary value) with matchfixing.


No.

Stop.

Literally get out.

Edit: looking at his picks he had an evolving wilds and could have splashed the goyf with a single forest. He could have played the goyf, but then the value of the stamped foil goyf goes down.

Not saying I buy into the argument 100%, but there is a certain logic to it. At an absurdly reductive level, the two are the same. You are deliberately choosing to value maximizing material gain over the goal of winning.

It's not hard to see why pros find this so contentious if you look at it from this perspective, even if you don't agree. Especially when in sporting events, something like losing matches in groups so you meet your countrymen later in the bracket is somewhat taboo, even when patriotism/nationalism is far more "noble" than individual material gain.

On June 03 2015 02:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 02:50 TheYango wrote:
Somewhere out there, someone's made the reductive argument conflating throwing your chance at winning the GP (or at least reducing your chances of winning) for the sake of a monetary reward (or in this case, one with significant monetary value) with matchfixing.

This is pretty close.

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/386gn8/pascal_maynards_ev_breakdown_whats_the_pick/

Eh..no it's not I didn't read your whole post.

But still.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the EV of matchfixing in any case where it's happened in E-sports was much higher than that of trying to win, but that doesn't make it less deplorable, lol.
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