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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 22 2013 02:13 GMT
#41
On August 22 2013 10:24 ticklishmusic wrote:
I will be in school forever.

I really hate the US school system sometimes. Undergrad is such a waste of time if you're set on going the medical route.

Or law. Or, to be honest, in 50%+ of majors the only useful thing you get is a paper at the end.
Freeeeeeedom
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 22 2013 03:16 GMT
#42
It's absolutely ridiculous, and I believe that there's a degree of monopoly pricing going on with American colleges. How can a school in good conscience charge an amount that a family of four can live on?
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 22 2013 03:34 GMT
#43
On August 22 2013 12:16 ticklishmusic wrote:
It's absolutely ridiculous, and I believe that there's a degree of monopoly pricing going on with American colleges. How can a school in good conscience charge an amount that a family of four can live on?

Some degrees might be worth that much. Like chem e from mit. But otherwise no.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 22 2013 03:44 GMT
#44
On August 22 2013 12:16 ticklishmusic wrote:
It's absolutely ridiculous, and I believe that there's a degree of monopoly pricing going on with American colleges. How can a school in good conscience charge an amount that a family of four can live on?

A lot of low income students' tuition tends to be a lot lower or free. So that's where a lot of the money goes to as well.
liftlift > tsm
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
August 22 2013 05:20 GMT
#45
On August 22 2013 12:16 ticklishmusic wrote:
It's absolutely ridiculous, and I believe that there's a degree of monopoly pricing going on with American colleges. How can a school in good conscience charge an amount that a family of four can live on?

America has a ton of educational opportunities that no one uses because there's also a huge overvaluation of name brand higher education. I went to a top 10 school, and the stuff that I use in my day to day work are all things I learned in high school or through hands on stuff by myself.
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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
August 22 2013 12:02 GMT
#46
So in the US, are there any general requirements for example engineering college/uni courses?
In Sweden there is, but all major uni's give 1-year "base years", which will take you through required courses at a higher pace (1 year instead of the 2 years in high school).
This leads me to believe that you should get a practical high-school exam, start working (you might like it!), try to evaluate some time later (1-3 years), do a base year if you want to, and then start uni/college.
On the other hand, this delays your uni degree, meaning that career starts later.

Also, I'm a firm believer and never practitioner that you should read up as much as you can about whatever it is you are interested in, and not treat it as chores in school. Source criticism is hard though.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
August 22 2013 16:23 GMT
#47
Engineering schools generally require some advance level of math or science classes in high school and math/science SAT 2 tests. You can take AP courses in high school which are suppose to be equivalent to introductory uni courses. Some uni give credit for AP courses taken in high school.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 22 2013 16:26 GMT
#48
On August 23 2013 01:23 caelym wrote:
Engineering schools generally require some advance level of math or science classes in high school and math/science SAT 2 tests. You can take AP courses in high school which are suppose to be equivalent to introductory uni courses. Some uni give credit for AP courses taken in high school.

Most colleges offer those courses, so the first year or two you could just be doing a lot of pre-req, and general education courses before going into the upper-div engineering courses.
liftlift > tsm
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 22 2013 16:32 GMT
#49
On August 22 2013 14:20 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 12:16 ticklishmusic wrote:
It's absolutely ridiculous, and I believe that there's a degree of monopoly pricing going on with American colleges. How can a school in good conscience charge an amount that a family of four can live on?

America has a ton of educational opportunities that no one uses because there's also a huge overvaluation of name brand higher education. I went to a top 10 school, and the stuff that I use in my day to day work are all things I learned in high school or through hands on stuff by myself.

I remember talking to some people in hiring positions, and they said that there is a huge difference between a college graduate and a high school graduate in terms of work attitude, learning capacity, etc. even though they don't really use what they learned. (I argued that they're also 4 years older.)

So in other words, college is just a big daycare for high school graduates.

I would much rather see bigger corporations have in-house training programs instead of this outsourced to university crap.

Oh well.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
August 22 2013 17:26 GMT
#50
On August 23 2013 01:32 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 14:20 xes wrote:
On August 22 2013 12:16 ticklishmusic wrote:
It's absolutely ridiculous, and I believe that there's a degree of monopoly pricing going on with American colleges. How can a school in good conscience charge an amount that a family of four can live on?

America has a ton of educational opportunities that no one uses because there's also a huge overvaluation of name brand higher education. I went to a top 10 school, and the stuff that I use in my day to day work are all things I learned in high school or through hands on stuff by myself.

I remember talking to some people in hiring positions, and they said that there is a huge difference between a college graduate and a high school graduate in terms of work attitude, learning capacity, etc. even though they don't really use what they learned. (I argued that they're also 4 years older.)

So in other words, college is just a big daycare for high school graduates.

I would much rather see bigger corporations have in-house training programs instead of this outsourced to university crap.

Oh well.

I'm not sure I agree. I think if there's one thing that the U.S. is doing right educationally, it's higher education. It's a place where you learn self-dependence and discipline; you generally engage in conversations that require higher levels of thinking, and you start getting to a point where you are forming more of your own ideas rather than regurgitating simple concepts.

The big problem is that it costs so damn much that it makes buying a house, getting married, having kids, and investing impossible for most people until they are 30-35, and for some even older.

The inelasticity of demand for college education (both from the student end and the employer end) should probably make it a good candidate for more government regulation, but with the current political environment it's unlikely anytime soon. Even President Obama's current modest proposals will probably not pass both houses of Congress.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 22 2013 17:30 GMT
#51
This chair at this lan tournament is utter crap
nothing to rest my elbows on
whyyy do they use these bad chairs t.t
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 22 2013 17:31 GMT
#52
On August 23 2013 02:30 Scip wrote:
This chair at this lan tournament is utter crap
nothing to rest my elbows on
whyyy do they use these bad chairs t.t

If you feed blame the chair.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 17:38:58
August 22 2013 17:38 GMT
#53
I don't really plan on feeding
we have super easy bracket, the format is round robin 2 groups of 6, and we are the only good team in our group so if we win 4-0 which should be doable we'll be guaranteed top4 finish I think.

The whole other group is bitching about there being too many good teams. That's what happens when there is no seeding and is purely random :D
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 22 2013 18:03 GMT
#54
I've been really busy with real life shit lately so zero time for League. I've caught like four LCS matches over the last two months and most of my current knowledge of the pro scene consists of checking Leaguepedia for records and who's winning OGN/LPL.

With that said, due to real life stuff the only gaming I've had time for is on my 3DS and I spent that time replaying Black, Platinum, and have now almost finished Soul Silver again. I'm gonna take a break from those games though so that I don't get burnt out of metagame and might play through some of my ambassador titles on my 3DS or try to give Golden Sun Dark Dawn another try (I know, I know, it's not as good as the first ones but I loved the original and I never beat Dark Dawn during my first play through because I got bored).

When X/Y drops I know that it'll be a long ass time before a battle sim comes out with the new gen of 'mons. I've read a shit ton of Smogon in my free time cause I can do that on my phone and stuff. Before I dive into Pokemon sims though I was wondering if someone, preferably MoonBear or someone else who's well versed, knew of any good ways to watch high level Pokemon matches. Additionally are there any gem DS games that I probably haven't played but that are really good (if it's a gem 3DS game it better be super obscure or have come out in the last like three months as I've played all the big titles and such).
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 22 2013 18:08 GMT
#55
On August 23 2013 02:30 Scip wrote:
This chair at this lan tournament is utter crap
nothing to rest my elbows on
whyyy do they use these bad chairs t.t

Become a true diva and bring your own to every event.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 22 2013 18:11 GMT
#56
I didn't even bring headphones

don't really know what to do now, admins don't have any. Maybe I'll have to go to an electronics shop and buy one.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
August 22 2013 18:15 GMT
#57
On August 23 2013 03:03 overt wrote:
When X/Y drops I know that it'll be a long ass time before a battle sim comes out with the new gen of 'mons. I've read a shit ton of Smogon in my free time cause I can do that on my phone and stuff. Before I dive into Pokemon sims though I was wondering if someone, preferably MoonBear or someone else who's well versed, knew of any good ways to watch high level Pokemon matches. Additionally are there any gem DS games that I probably haven't played but that are really good (if it's a gem 3DS game it better be super obscure or have come out in the last like three months as I've played all the big titles and such).



Try the smogon forums. The best stuff is the battle reports where someone writes up their battle and talks about why they made the decisions they made.
For DS/3DS titles try the Shin Megami Tensei series. Devil Survivor, Soul Hackers, SMT:Strange Journey all excellent games. Also, Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime if you don't mind a fairly easy game.
Rondo of Swords is an interesting and unusual tactical RPG.
Contact is a great, obscure game. If you can find it, get it.
Oh and if you like tactics games, GET POKEMON: CONQUEST. IT IS A POKEMON TACTICS GAME. IT'S THE BEST.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 22 2013 18:20 GMT
#58
Also on the topic of 3DS titles, Fire Emblem: Awakening is good and HARD. Still haven't beaten it w/o dying on Hard mode. It's nuts. BUT I'M GETTING CLOSE.

And owb would tell you ANIMAL CROSSING ANIMAL CROSSING ANIMAL CROSSING.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 22 2013 18:25 GMT
#59
On August 23 2013 03:20 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Also on the topic of 3DS titles, Fire Emblem: Awakening is good and HARD. Still haven't beaten it w/o dying on Hard mode. It's nuts. BUT I'M GETTING CLOSE.

And owb would tell you ANIMAL CROSSING ANIMAL CROSSING ANIMAL CROSSING.

Animal Crossing was fun until the Island broke the economy.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 22 2013 18:31 GMT
#60
On August 23 2013 03:15 Tooplark wrote:
Oh and if you like tactics games, GET POKEMON: CONQUEST. IT IS A POKEMON TACTICS GAME. IT'S THE BEST.


I really liked Pokemon conquest until beating the final level somehow resets all your mons and then gave you additional missions with random sets of mons. It totally ruins the attachment ness that pokemon is supposed to give you...it made me really sad
Jaedong :3
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