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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 29 2014 01:31 GMT
#41541
On May 29 2014 09:24 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 06:12 red_ wrote:
On May 29 2014 04:04 mordek wrote:
My challenge to you would be describe a normal movement where I want my entire back rounded or need to get it into that position under load.
I'm seriously open-minded, I just enjoy devil's advocate and you haven't convinced me otherwise.


Why are we talking about a rounded back in a discussion about squats?

FWIW though, one of the best reasons for doing squats is the combination hip+ankle flexibility you get from stressing the movement(with or without weight), which will better allow you to keep your back in proper position. You're also far less likely to round your back under load doing random tasks if you have trained yourself to not do so by say, squatting or deadlifting.

You guys are so cute with your fitness talk, it's adorable.

Because Soniv was advocating crunches and Xes recommended squats and I agreed.

I was hoping you'd add more to the discussion


I was advocating crunches in the sense that they aren't useless to do. Wei was making it seem like they were "omg so terrible". Squats are also good. I mean, as always, well rounded conditioning is always better then working out one specific muscle group.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 29 2014 01:43 GMT
#41542
I just don't know how red missed the first half is all

you stream again soon?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 01:46:47
May 29 2014 01:46 GMT
#41543
Now that I beat Fire Emblem, should I:


Poll: What should I do next?

Replay Fire Emblem for a clean run where no one dies (1)
 
13%

Play FE - the Sacred Stone (7)
 
88%

8 total votes

Your vote: What should I do next?

(Vote): Replay Fire Emblem for a clean run where no one dies
(Vote): Play FE - the Sacred Stone



Help me decide OT!
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 29 2014 01:49 GMT
#41544
On May 29 2014 10:43 mordek wrote:
I just don't know how red missed the first half is all

you stream again soon?


Yeah, I'm gonna be streaming more I think. Prob not tonight though
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 29 2014 01:55 GMT
#41545
Maybe I will stream something tonight. Not League though I've already played like 10 games today.

Maybe like the Banner Saga or Rogue Legacy or Binding of Isaac or FTL or something. THOUGHTS?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
May 29 2014 01:56 GMT
#41546
Sacred Stone is probably my favorite FE game, maybe it's a lot of nostalgia but I had a lot more fun playing it as a kid and find it a lot easier to go back and play now a days. The split campaign also makes replaying it pretty cool.
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 02:04:49
May 29 2014 01:59 GMT
#41547
On May 29 2014 09:24 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 06:12 red_ wrote:
On May 29 2014 04:04 mordek wrote:
My challenge to you would be describe a normal movement where I want my entire back rounded or need to get it into that position under load.
I'm seriously open-minded, I just enjoy devil's advocate and you haven't convinced me otherwise.


Why are we talking about a rounded back in a discussion about squats?

FWIW though, one of the best reasons for doing squats is the combination hip+ankle flexibility you get from stressing the movement(with or without weight), which will better allow you to keep your back in proper position. You're also far less likely to round your back under load doing random tasks if you have trained yourself to not do so by say, squatting or deadlifting.

You guys are so cute with your fitness talk, it's adorable.

Because Soniv was advocating crunches and Xes recommended squats and I agreed.

I was hoping you'd add more to the discussion


Well adding to the initial discussion would feel like bragging(#notsosubtlebrag complete).

As for ab work, it is correct that the primary function is resisting postural change(and supporting the spine through intra-abdominal pressure), and for the average person something like a plank serves better to improve that function than your typical situps/crunches. Once you go beyond the average person though, training the muscle starts to change.

For example, most athletic movements involve transfer of energy/movement through the core, which can require a very strong contraction to maintain proper alignment. This is largely an unconscious event that happens as you do it(you probably don't think 'flex core' as you jump, you're too worried about your legs), but the musculature is no less important. For aesthetic reasons, the more you develop your abs the deeper the lines formed by the tendinous intersections will be, so people end up training them for hypertrophy like anything else(ok maybe not anything else, because the goal isn't quite 'as big as possible' like most other muscle groups).

There are a ridiculous number of ways to train your abs(and less specifically, the whole 'core'). Pick some of it and do it, although at minimum I'd say a person should train the 3 different 'patterns' of movement, which would be resisting movement(plank type stuff), bringing hips up(leg raises and whatnot), and bringing ribs down(sit-ups).

I think all the rage right now is (probably rightfully so) on glute activation anyways, because a ridiculous amount of people have anterior pelvic tilt and weak hips, so you guys are wayyyy late on this ab hype.

On May 29 2014 10:43 mordek wrote:
I just don't know how red missed the first half is all


I saw the conversation, I just meant that a rounded back is never the goal in a squat, so discussing why one would want to train squats shouldn't involve discussing when one would purposely put their back in a rounded position under load. That said, again, training with a rounded back under load(round back good mornings is the most common), is more about training the lower back and hips to prevent that by strengthening, than it is about being good under that specific stress(execpting perhaps powerlifters and strongmen who might find themselves there under extreme load).

I think I fixed everything, next time I will use the preview button.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 29 2014 02:06 GMT
#41548
On May 29 2014 10:59 red_ wrote:
I think all the rage right now is (probably rightfully so) on glute activation anyways, because a ridiculous amount of people have anterior pelvic tilt and weak hips, so you guys are wayyyy late on this ab hype.

So what you're saying is we're not having enough sex
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 29 2014 02:08 GMT
#41549
On May 29 2014 11:06 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 10:59 red_ wrote:
I think all the rage right now is (probably rightfully so) on glute activation anyways, because a ridiculous amount of people have anterior pelvic tilt and weak hips, so you guys are wayyyy late on this ab hype.

So what you're saying is we're not having enough sex


I'd probably say that anyways, but not as an insult, more because of the rhetorical: is anyone really having enough sex?
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 29 2014 02:16 GMT
#41550
Stream time ladies and gents.

Chaos tree fire thing is going down.
I hope.

http://www.twitch.tv/waveofshadow
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 29 2014 02:23 GMT
#41551
On May 29 2014 10:59 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 09:24 mordek wrote:
On May 29 2014 06:12 red_ wrote:
On May 29 2014 04:04 mordek wrote:
My challenge to you would be describe a normal movement where I want my entire back rounded or need to get it into that position under load.
I'm seriously open-minded, I just enjoy devil's advocate and you haven't convinced me otherwise.


Why are we talking about a rounded back in a discussion about squats?

FWIW though, one of the best reasons for doing squats is the combination hip+ankle flexibility you get from stressing the movement(with or without weight), which will better allow you to keep your back in proper position. You're also far less likely to round your back under load doing random tasks if you have trained yourself to not do so by say, squatting or deadlifting.

You guys are so cute with your fitness talk, it's adorable.

Because Soniv was advocating crunches and Xes recommended squats and I agreed.

I was hoping you'd add more to the discussion


Well adding to the initial discussion would feel like bragging(#notsosubtlebrag complete).

As for ab work, it is correct that the primary function is resisting postural change(and supporting the spine through intra-abdominal pressure), and for the average person something like a plank serves better to improve that function than your typical situps/crunches. Once you go beyond the average person though, training the muscle starts to change.

For example, most athletic movements involve transfer of energy/movement through the core, which can require a very strong contraction to maintain proper alignment. This is largely an unconscious event that happens as you do it(you probably don't think 'flex core' as you jump, you're too worried about your legs), but the musculature is no less important. For aesthetic reasons, the more you develop your abs the deeper the lines formed by the tendinous intersections will be, so people end up training them for hypertrophy like anything else(ok maybe not anything else, because the goal isn't quite 'as big as possible' like most other muscle groups).

There are a ridiculous number of ways to train your abs(and less specifically, the whole 'core'). Pick some of it and do it, although at minimum I'd say a person should train the 3 different 'patterns' of movement, which would be resisting movement(plank type stuff), bringing hips up(leg raises and whatnot), and bringing ribs down(sit-ups).

I think all the rage right now is (probably rightfully so) on glute activation anyways, because a ridiculous amount of people have anterior pelvic tilt and weak hips, so you guys are wayyyy late on this ab hype.

Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 10:43 mordek wrote:
I just don't know how red missed the first half is all


I saw the conversation, I just meant that a rounded back is never the goal in a squat, so discussing why one would want to train squats shouldn't involve discussing when one would purposely put their back in a rounded position under load. That said, again, training with a rounded back under load(round back good mornings is the most common), is more about training the lower back and hips to prevent that by strengthening, than it is about being good under that specific stress(execpting perhaps powerlifters and strongmen who might find themselves there under extreme load).

I think I fixed everything, next time I will use the preview button.

Ok thanks My whole point was why am I doing crunches when I don't want to put my back in that position. I definitely appreciated the explanation and I'm sure others did too.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 29 2014 02:37 GMT
#41552
On May 29 2014 11:23 mordek wrote:

Ok thanks My whole point was why am I doing crunches when I don't want to put my back in that position. I definitely appreciated the explanation and I'm sure others did too.


Well when done properly your spine isn't in any sort of compromised position doing a sit-up. It can get somewhat rounded, but the load shouldn't be on it in a way that is stressful(because of the bracing from your very much flexed abs), and the load isn't shearing or extremely compressive. The problem happens when you initiate with your hips with messes with your spinal alignment during the rest of the movement(and also means you aren't bracing your spine with your abs).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 29 2014 02:52 GMT
#41553
On May 29 2014 11:37 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 11:23 mordek wrote:

Ok thanks My whole point was why am I doing crunches when I don't want to put my back in that position. I definitely appreciated the explanation and I'm sure others did too.


Well when done properly your spine isn't in any sort of compromised position doing a sit-up. It can get somewhat rounded, but the load shouldn't be on it in a way that is stressful(because of the bracing from your very much flexed abs), and the load isn't shearing or extremely compressive. The problem happens when you initiate with your hips with messes with your spinal alignment during the rest of the movement(and also means you aren't bracing your spine with your abs).

It's not so much concern for my back while doing a sit-up but more why am I training this movement functionally. I hadn't thought that with increased intensity you probably do need to go above and beyond anything isometric so I'm with you there that this can be useful. Wouldn't you be better served doing a standing cable crunch at least?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 29 2014 03:00 GMT
#41554
On May 29 2014 11:52 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 11:37 red_ wrote:
On May 29 2014 11:23 mordek wrote:

Ok thanks My whole point was why am I doing crunches when I don't want to put my back in that position. I definitely appreciated the explanation and I'm sure others did too.


Well when done properly your spine isn't in any sort of compromised position doing a sit-up. It can get somewhat rounded, but the load shouldn't be on it in a way that is stressful(because of the bracing from your very much flexed abs), and the load isn't shearing or extremely compressive. The problem happens when you initiate with your hips with messes with your spinal alignment during the rest of the movement(and also means you aren't bracing your spine with your abs).

It's not so much concern for my back while doing a sit-up but more why am I training this movement functionally. I hadn't thought that with increased intensity you probably do need to go above and beyond anything isometric so I'm with you there that this can be useful. Wouldn't you be better served doing a standing cable crunch at least?


Cable crunches are great, I tend to do mine from a kneeling position though(insert gay jokes). I would call that more preference though, I don't think there's anything wrong with say, decline bench sit-ups, or v-ups or all the other varieties.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 29 2014 03:06 GMT
#41555
On May 29 2014 12:00 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 11:52 mordek wrote:
On May 29 2014 11:37 red_ wrote:
On May 29 2014 11:23 mordek wrote:

Ok thanks My whole point was why am I doing crunches when I don't want to put my back in that position. I definitely appreciated the explanation and I'm sure others did too.


Well when done properly your spine isn't in any sort of compromised position doing a sit-up. It can get somewhat rounded, but the load shouldn't be on it in a way that is stressful(because of the bracing from your very much flexed abs), and the load isn't shearing or extremely compressive. The problem happens when you initiate with your hips with messes with your spinal alignment during the rest of the movement(and also means you aren't bracing your spine with your abs).

It's not so much concern for my back while doing a sit-up but more why am I training this movement functionally. I hadn't thought that with increased intensity you probably do need to go above and beyond anything isometric so I'm with you there that this can be useful. Wouldn't you be better served doing a standing cable crunch at least?


Cable crunches are great, I tend to do mine from a kneeling position though(insert gay

Stopped reading here
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 29 2014 03:09 GMT
#41556
Hahaha scip.

Thanks again. I usually approach most situations in life with if you argue something from both sides you often find the truth somewhere in the middle or at least things are clearer
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
May 29 2014 03:37 GMT
#41557
On May 29 2014 10:56 phathom321 wrote:
Sacred Stone is probably my favorite FE game, maybe it's a lot of nostalgia but I had a lot more fun playing it as a kid and find it a lot easier to go back and play now a days. The split campaign also makes replaying it pretty cool.

I like this opinion. Pretty much what I have to say about the Sacred Stone(rs). Sacred Stones was my favourite Fire Emblem game for the longest time too until Awakening came out.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 04:02:39
May 29 2014 03:59 GMT
#41558
HEY WAVE
Guess what!?

http://imgur.com/gjJN8ng,AvoiWVd,7gTEv7T,Gm4Vldb
Get Req'd
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
May 29 2014 04:22 GMT
#41559
The only legendaries I ever pulled from arena are from 0-3 or 1-3.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 29 2014 05:25 GMT
#41560
Anybody here know Korean for me to bounce a question off of?
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