Off-Topic General Discussion - Page 170

On October 03 2013 03:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:


You mean like, mozzarella sticks?


"Puts permanent end to the Elders' wrath at the cost of 5% of your CpS"

LOL FUCK THAT

On October 03 2013 03:48 xes wrote:
I don't have fun playing closed single player games because there always is a set of weakly dominant strategies and any other way is to play the game inefficiently.

So I mostly play roguelikes and fluff AAA titles with 0 gameplay and just visuals

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On October 03 2013 03:41 xes wrote:
Cookie clicker is a game for computers to play with themselves once we have advanced AIs. But the reward for human interaction is in experimentation, progression, and rewards (the standard traps of any MMORPG grinder). And like any MMORPG there will come a point of clarity in which you've realized despite your brain's sunk cost fallacy arguments, that the game has essentially been a complete waste of time for constructed progression achievement.

The only way to avoid this trap is to solve the game. Since everything has flat cookie cost and only modified cookies per time additively or multiplicatively, the closed system has a fairly straightforward optimization solution. Find the solution and thus even with learning AIs, you have achieved the method by which a perfect computer will perfectly play out the game. You have then beaten the game without even playing it. Congratulations.

On October 03 2013 03:32 xes wrote:

YANGO NO NOT YOU TOO

Actually I've been playing http://candies.aniwey.net/ for like months.

On October 03 2013 03:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:


Why have you done this

On October 03 2013 04:01 Requizen wrote:

I don't understand this one.

On October 03 2013 04:02 Fusilero wrote:

All I know is that my candy counter is rising so I must be doing something good.

On October 03 2013 03:59 xes wrote:
I think you can do better than Cookie Monster because purely maximizing CpS efficiency isn't everything. There's basically a fixed ceiling of total Cookies Earned to achieve before things start to escape the system (aka you've beaten the game) and so you want to minimize the time it takes to get there first before working on CpS/C

I haven't mathed it out, but the general thought experiment is "If you've driven X to your destination but have the option to restart the drive at 3x the speed should you?" and you have to find the break even points for X so that even though you restart your total time is less.

On October 03 2013 04:03 TheYango wrote:

Yeah that was the immediately obvious limitation of Cookie Monster to me, which is why I didn't use it. Also, it was more fun to spreadsheet it myself.

Though a point of note is that once you get to the point where you have all the Golden Cookie upgrades, maximizing CpS efficiency IS everything because Golden Cookie income completely dwarfs the actual cost of things for quite a long while.

On October 03 2013 04:03 Requizen wrote:

These two games showcase something that is distressing. If you give gamers numbers and buttons, regardless of context, they will waste time on it.

I have thrown 100 candies on the ground instead of solving this bug.

On October 03 2013 04:03 TheYango wrote:

Yeah that was the immediately obvious limitation of Cookie Monster to me, which is why I didn't use it. Also, it was more fun to spreadsheet it myself.

Though a point of note is that once you get to the point where you have all the Golden Cookie upgrades, maximizing CpS efficiency IS everything because Golden Cookie income completely dwarfs the actual cost of things for quite a long while.

On October 03 2013 04:06 Fusilero wrote:

I just let my counter rise, now I'm on a quest with a wooden sword. Deez trees ain't got shit on me.

On October 03 2013 04:06 Fusilero wrote:

I just let my counter rise, now I'm on a quest with a wooden sword. Deez trees ain't got shit on me.

On October 03 2013 04:06 Requizen wrote:

ok literally wat