On April 13 2014 04:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Big surprise: wei2cancerman and reqpussy don't like drinking. Gives real credence to the Asian belief that alcohol is the truest indicator of a man's character.
drinking is good if the people around you are drinking as well it sucks if people are sober/judgemental around you likewise, if you're sober, being around drunk people sucks but there's no need to pressure anyone who doesn't want to drink into drinking. that won't make them like it more
On April 13 2014 04:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Big surprise: wei2cancerman and reqpussy don't like drinking. Gives real credence to the Asian belief that alcohol is the truest indicator of a man's character.
i don't like drinking cuz the amount of fun of being drunk doesn't out weigh the negatives.
On April 13 2014 03:52 Ketara wrote: This argument is dumb and it should feel dumb.
We should talk about something else that Req hates.
Like this maybe:
I've actually been musing on this recently. I think the reason I didn't enjoy KLK as much was that it doesn't have as much heart as other animes I've watched. As I've said before, it got there near the end, but for the most part it just didn't feel like it to me. What was everyone fighting for? What was supposed to be the message of the story? What were the characters trying to prove with their actions? I didn't really feel anything for them until the end, and in a (non-episodic) series (of any genre, anime or books or movies), I think that's important for a good experience.
For example, Ryuko basically just shows up in the first episode and says "someone killed my dad tell me who". Why should I care about this character? Loss (even of the familial variety) is a good setup, but needs to be built to get any emotion out of it. If FMA was just "our mom died and now we feel bad about it", it would have been much less impactful. Instead, they use it as a launching point to explore things like the limits of right and wrong, how to control power instead of using it for selfish means, accepting loss, and how to use your pain to give you strength in the future. Ryuko's hardship could have been replaced with any other number of mcguffins and the revenge story would have ended up very similarly. I had a hard time caring about her character at all until the big reveal in the second half.
There also didn't seem to be any sort of overall theme to the story. Near the end it was all about "clothes are clothes and people are people". I guess that could be a way of saying "don't let your status wear you, be yourself and act/dress the way you want", but really that wasn't expounded on in any way. For example, in other anime/manga:
Trigun is about fortitude and personal morals, sticking to your ideals no matter what. Even in the face of hatred and despair, doing the right thing and being an example of goodness is always worthwhile.
FMA is about our limitations as people, the moral implications of using power to reach what you want, and how the lines get blurred when doing the objectively thing and doing the subjectively right thing aren't the same.
FLCL is a coming of age story, watching as a young man deals with becoming an adult. Wanting to be treated like a grown up, while simultaneously acting like a kid and not knowing what either means. It's about dealing with emotions and relationships in a very turbulent time in a young person's life.
Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer is really about very cynical people, or at least how any person can get that way. It's about people facing losses and how they all find a reason to live afterwards, reasons to love and go on despite how the world and people have treated them up until this point.
TTGL is about facing impossible tasks and having the determination to throw aside all reason and logic to do what's necessary. Kick reason to the curb and make the impossible possible, no matter the adversity.
KLK is a fantastic action show. The animation is brilliant, soundtrack is top notch (Blumenkranz has been on repeat for a while now), the powers are cool and the comedy beats are well timed. But it ended up feeling hollow to me. Near the end, it started to have this vibe of trusting your friends and accepting your weaknesses, but it was pretty late into the show and those are pretty over-done themes that I've seen better executed in a lot of places. It doesn't make it a bad show, it just makes it one that I don't care overly much about.
On April 13 2014 04:10 gtrsrs wrote: drinking is good if the people around you are drinking as well it sucks if people are sober/judgemental around you likewise, if you're sober, being around drunk people sucks but there's no need to pressure anyone who doesn't want to drink into drinking. that won't make them like it more
I think the judgmental part is more important than the sober part. I've had great experiences on both sides of that fence because I myself or whoever the sober person(people) was had no illusion of self-righteousness about their sobriety(in most cases because they do drink, just not on that occasion for whatever reason).
On April 13 2014 03:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: The understanding in many Asian cultures is that alcohol = friendship. If you don't drink a lot with someone, you are basically saying you don't consider them a friend/equal/etc.
You'd think resident weeaboo Req would know this.
I was in South Korea for one day and the friend I was visiting had me drinking in four different places before dinner.
Don't fuck with South Koreans and their booze. They scary.
How do you travel so much? Are you a professional photographer or some such(like meeting the Pope sounds like it wouldn't just be a simple thing)? Also pretty cool that you do.
If you're at the vatican on Easter and get there reeeeeeeeeeeally early (the service started at like 10 AM and I got in line around midnight) you get to sit right at the front and he comes up and meets everybody in the first couple rows.
I actually do have a few pictures published in travel guides, but I just travel as a hobby. Not buying LoL skins pays for it.
On April 13 2014 03:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: The understanding in many Asian cultures is that alcohol = friendship. If you don't drink a lot with someone, you are basically saying you don't consider them a friend/equal/etc.
You'd think resident weeaboo Req would know this.
On April 13 2014 04:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Big surprise: wei2cancerman and reqpussy don't like drinking. Gives real credence to the Asian belief that alcohol is the truest indicator of a man's character.
Good thing I hold cheep's opinions in high regard.
On April 13 2014 03:47 red_ wrote: I'm actually going to sort of take the unpopular side of the argument here and say that every night that I've gotten RIDICULOUSLY drunk I absolutely think would have been better had I moderated a bit better and just been 'drunk.'
I'm not totally on Req's side, I enjoy recreational drinking and have learned how to ride the line of 'just drunk enough' through the above noted experiences, but even having experienced it I don't find it greatly appealing. I'm ok with some of those really over the top stories involving incredible drunkenness being about other people that I was with, without me being the actual subject.
The people I got sick of after a while are the ones who don't understand how to just be drunk as opposed to always getting slammed
@req - we're not saying you should start drinking or make bad decisions. But it's unreasonable for you to criticize getting drunk as an activity when you've never really seen the other side of the fence.
I'm not criticizing it. I have said multiple times that I think it's fine if people want to do it and have fun with it. I just don't think it would improve my life or fun in any way.
I know people who go skydive. This is not an activity I need in my life but I understand why people do it. I'm not saying drinking = jumping out of a plane, but the point is that I can understand something that people enjoy doing but have no desire to do it myself and think it's overall a pointless/bad idea.
On April 13 2014 04:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Big surprise: wei2cancerman and reqpussy don't like drinking. Gives real credence to the Asian belief that alcohol is the truest indicator of a man's character.
Cheeffles?
And re: skydiving---I dunno I understand the point of why people do it. Doesn't mean I ever will. It's different than me calling it stupid.
On April 13 2014 04:10 gtrsrs wrote: drinking is good if the people around you are drinking as well it sucks if people are sober/judgemental around you likewise, if you're sober, being around drunk people sucks but there's no need to pressure anyone who doesn't want to drink into drinking. that won't make them like it more
Most times it is. But sometimes it's really, really, really, really, really funny.
Throwing my hat on the "drinking ain't for me" side. I have plenty of fun sober. Being around drunk people is entertaining, and being around drunk strangers is less tiring than sober ones, but gimme games with nerds over parties any day.
On April 13 2014 04:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Big surprise: wei2cancerman and reqpussy don't like drinking. Gives real credence to the Asian belief that alcohol is the truest indicator of a man's character.
Cheeffles?
And re: skydiving---I dunno I understand the point of why people do it. Doesn't mean I ever will. It's different than me calling it stupid.
I think any time someone jumps out of a perfectly good airplane with nothing but a piece of cloth to keep them from suffering an untimely end is pretty stupid.
Very few people die from skydiving, or even get hurt in any way doing it. It's overwhelmingly a very safe activity. It's still, at it's core, a very stupid idea