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On March 17 2014 05:28 wei2coolman wrote:
iem finals were excellent. Mostly cuz LR thread was super active.
Super active, super silly, super thankful for JBright.
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On March 17 2014 03:51 Shelke14 wrote:
I have no idea what game I want to play right now. Not feeling D3 at the moment, don't play league anymore. Man just want to play something but everything I own isn't what I want. Fuck
I root through masses of F2P games when i have days like that. Always find something that tickles my fancy for a while. Ever played spiral knights? XD
Also im reading way too much nosleep...was up till 5am yesterday and now its 2:30am again, should have fuckin logged into SWTOR when finals finished maybe i could be asleep now.
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On March 17 2014 05:58 Parnage wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 05:28 wei2coolman wrote:
iem finals were excellent. Mostly cuz LR thread was super active. Super active, super silly, super thankful for JBright.
It was cool to have tons of staff posting in it.
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On March 17 2014 06:00 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 05:58 Parnage wrote:On March 17 2014 05:28 wei2coolman wrote:
iem finals were excellent. Mostly cuz LR thread was super active. Super active, super silly, super thankful for JBright. It was cool to have tons of staff posting in it.
and the occasional starcraft troll
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On March 17 2014 06:00 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 05:58 Parnage wrote:On March 17 2014 05:28 wei2coolman wrote:
iem finals were excellent. Mostly cuz LR thread was super active. Super active, super silly, super thankful for JBright. It was cool to have tons of staff posting in it.
Turns out international tournaments are pretty fun to watch for everyone.
RIOT.
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On March 17 2014 06:02 caelym wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 06:00 wei2coolman wrote:On March 17 2014 05:58 Parnage wrote:On March 17 2014 05:28 wei2coolman wrote:
iem finals were excellent. Mostly cuz LR thread was super active. Super active, super silly, super thankful for JBright. It was cool to have tons of staff posting in it. and the occasional starcraft troll
Also sc2 final mega troll though, they had to take out frustrations on the superior game.
Even though it was stomp, I really liked dat fnatic vs kt b match. Tons of entertaining moments.
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So 'm finally arranging my Twinkle twinkly little star song... oh dear I'm having so much fun and it's Sooo corny!
There are some IEM Vods on twitch, nice. Haven't been able to see much of it 
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On March 17 2014 06:02 caelym wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 06:00 wei2coolman wrote:On March 17 2014 05:58 Parnage wrote:On March 17 2014 05:28 wei2coolman wrote:
iem finals were excellent. Mostly cuz LR thread was super active. Super active, super silly, super thankful for JBright. It was cool to have tons of staff posting in it. and the occasional starcraft troll
I felt like he just wasn't familiar with League.
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Weirdly enough, watching comp. DotA becomes way better as I'm starting to know the heroes and understand what's happening better (still have no idea about who's got the lategame, what plan a comp means, etc.).
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On March 17 2014 07:10 Alaric wrote:
Weirdly enough, watching comp. DotA becomes way better as I'm starting to know the heroes and understand what's happening better (still have no idea about who's got the lategame, what plan a comp means, etc.).
Personally I think it's cause DotA has a lot more intricacies that aren't as obvious to the uninitiated viewer. This holds true for most moba games, altho I think League's a bit more new viewer friendly. Could be due to casters too though.
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Yeah it almost makes me appreciate much more the production value of LCS with the near-instant replays of fights and important stuff happening so you can make it out better (esp. if it was a clusterfuck) since apparently it isn't accessible to DotA live spectating (or isn't used by the casters).
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Been having some problems with my net lately, it seems to just timeout once every 30 seconds and it's likely not the ISP's fault (checked the forums and no one else is complaining in my area). I'm guessing this might be a modem issue? Anyone familiar with this stuff?
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On March 17 2014 07:27 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 07:10 Alaric wrote:
Weirdly enough, watching comp. DotA becomes way better as I'm starting to know the heroes and understand what's happening better (still have no idea about who's got the lategame, what plan a comp means, etc.). Personally I think it's cause DotA has a lot more intricacies that aren't as obvious to the uninitiated viewer. This holds true for most moba games, altho I think League's a bit more new viewer friendly. Could be due to casters too though.
LCS just doesn't have the casting depth as OGN (monte). Monte does a really good job of describing item timings, and rotations, and end game goals of each team, he does a really good job of looking at intricacies of team comps. I feel like LCS casting just really falls short on this aspect, I feel they're not quite as willing to call out teams stalling out for lategame despite having the worse lategame comps, or teams with strong engage with large leads not grouping; etc etc. Also the refreshing thing about this IEM, was krep0 and Froggen talking about ban/pick phase, and really pointing out weaknesses on how teams ban/picked.
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whoa whoa whoa that KTB vs Gambit G2 finish.
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So, why do people care about Steam trading cards? Is there something amazing going on with Steam level's that I'm completely ignorant of or what?
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On March 17 2014 08:20 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 07:27 Ryuu314 wrote:On March 17 2014 07:10 Alaric wrote:
Weirdly enough, watching comp. DotA becomes way better as I'm starting to know the heroes and understand what's happening better (still have no idea about who's got the lategame, what plan a comp means, etc.). Personally I think it's cause DotA has a lot more intricacies that aren't as obvious to the uninitiated viewer. This holds true for most moba games, altho I think League's a bit more new viewer friendly. Could be due to casters too though. LCS just doesn't have the casting depth as OGN (monte). Monte does a really good job of describing item timings, and rotations, and end game goals of each team, he does a really good job of looking at intricacies of team comps. I feel like LCS casting just really falls short on this aspect, I feel they're not quite as willing to call out teams stalling out for lategame despite having the worse lategame comps, or teams with strong engage with large leads not grouping; etc etc. Also the refreshing thing about this IEM, was krep0 and Froggen talking about ban/pick phase, and really pointing out weaknesses on how teams ban/picked.
That's intentional by both parties.
Riot assumes that most people that watch LCS haven't really dealt with esports before league. It's difficult for the casters to be harsh on LCS teams because they, for the most part, are Riot employees. It'd be like the boss coming out onto the workfloor and announcing you suck at your job.
Meanwhile Monte made a conscious decision, due to how difficult it was to watch Champions live from the west, to develop his cast for a more (I'm going to hate myself for using this term) "hardcore" audience.
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On March 17 2014 08:44 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 08:20 wei2coolman wrote:On March 17 2014 07:27 Ryuu314 wrote:On March 17 2014 07:10 Alaric wrote:
Weirdly enough, watching comp. DotA becomes way better as I'm starting to know the heroes and understand what's happening better (still have no idea about who's got the lategame, what plan a comp means, etc.). Personally I think it's cause DotA has a lot more intricacies that aren't as obvious to the uninitiated viewer. This holds true for most moba games, altho I think League's a bit more new viewer friendly. Could be due to casters too though. LCS just doesn't have the casting depth as OGN (monte). Monte does a really good job of describing item timings, and rotations, and end game goals of each team, he does a really good job of looking at intricacies of team comps. I feel like LCS casting just really falls short on this aspect, I feel they're not quite as willing to call out teams stalling out for lategame despite having the worse lategame comps, or teams with strong engage with large leads not grouping; etc etc. Also the refreshing thing about this IEM, was krep0 and Froggen talking about ban/pick phase, and really pointing out weaknesses on how teams ban/picked. That's intentional by both parties. Riot assumes that most people that watch LCS haven't really dealt with esports before league. It's difficult for the casters to be harsh on LCS teams because they, for the most part, are Riot employees. It'd be like the boss coming out onto the workfloor and announcing you suck at your job. Meanwhile Monte made a conscious decision, due to how difficult it was to watch Champions live from the west, to develop his cast for a more (I'm going to hate myself for using this term) "hardcore" audience.
Yeah, I agree, but even if Riot didn't have that goal, can you seriously say that the LCS casters right now would do as good of a job as Monte does?
On March 17 2014 08:41 Crusnik wrote:
So, why do people care about Steam trading cards? Is there something amazing going on with Steam level's that I'm completely ignorant of or what?
it's like achievement and hats.
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On March 17 2014 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 08:44 Gahlo wrote:On March 17 2014 08:20 wei2coolman wrote:On March 17 2014 07:27 Ryuu314 wrote:On March 17 2014 07:10 Alaric wrote:
Weirdly enough, watching comp. DotA becomes way better as I'm starting to know the heroes and understand what's happening better (still have no idea about who's got the lategame, what plan a comp means, etc.). Personally I think it's cause DotA has a lot more intricacies that aren't as obvious to the uninitiated viewer. This holds true for most moba games, altho I think League's a bit more new viewer friendly. Could be due to casters too though. LCS just doesn't have the casting depth as OGN (monte). Monte does a really good job of describing item timings, and rotations, and end game goals of each team, he does a really good job of looking at intricacies of team comps. I feel like LCS casting just really falls short on this aspect, I feel they're not quite as willing to call out teams stalling out for lategame despite having the worse lategame comps, or teams with strong engage with large leads not grouping; etc etc. Also the refreshing thing about this IEM, was krep0 and Froggen talking about ban/pick phase, and really pointing out weaknesses on how teams ban/picked. That's intentional by both parties. Riot assumes that most people that watch LCS haven't really dealt with esports before league. It's difficult for the casters to be harsh on LCS teams because they, for the most part, are Riot employees. It'd be like the boss coming out onto the workfloor and announcing you suck at your job. Meanwhile Monte made a conscious decision, due to how difficult it was to watch Champions live from the west, to develop his cast for a more (I'm going to hate myself for using this term) "hardcore" audience. Yeah, I agree, but even if Riot didn't have that goal, can you seriously say that the LCS casters right now would do as good of a job as Monte does?
For the general targeted audience...yes. Though EU desperately needs good color commentary (and EU LCS needs to be less of a slog).
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On March 17 2014 08:52 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:On March 17 2014 08:44 Gahlo wrote:On March 17 2014 08:20 wei2coolman wrote:On March 17 2014 07:27 Ryuu314 wrote:On March 17 2014 07:10 Alaric wrote:
Weirdly enough, watching comp. DotA becomes way better as I'm starting to know the heroes and understand what's happening better (still have no idea about who's got the lategame, what plan a comp means, etc.). Personally I think it's cause DotA has a lot more intricacies that aren't as obvious to the uninitiated viewer. This holds true for most moba games, altho I think League's a bit more new viewer friendly. Could be due to casters too though. LCS just doesn't have the casting depth as OGN (monte). Monte does a really good job of describing item timings, and rotations, and end game goals of each team, he does a really good job of looking at intricacies of team comps. I feel like LCS casting just really falls short on this aspect, I feel they're not quite as willing to call out teams stalling out for lategame despite having the worse lategame comps, or teams with strong engage with large leads not grouping; etc etc. Also the refreshing thing about this IEM, was krep0 and Froggen talking about ban/pick phase, and really pointing out weaknesses on how teams ban/picked. That's intentional by both parties. Riot assumes that most people that watch LCS haven't really dealt with esports before league. It's difficult for the casters to be harsh on LCS teams because they, for the most part, are Riot employees. It'd be like the boss coming out onto the workfloor and announcing you suck at your job. Meanwhile Monte made a conscious decision, due to how difficult it was to watch Champions live from the west, to develop his cast for a more (I'm going to hate myself for using this term) "hardcore" audience. Yeah, I agree, but even if Riot didn't have that goal, can you seriously say that the LCS casters right now would do as good of a job as Monte does? For the general targeted audience...yes. Though EU desperately needs good color commentary (and EU LCS needs to be less of a slog).
I'm not talking about general targeted audience, but do you think they could do the same level of color commentary as Monte?
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On March 17 2014 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 08:44 Gahlo wrote:On March 17 2014 08:20 wei2coolman wrote:On March 17 2014 07:27 Ryuu314 wrote:On March 17 2014 07:10 Alaric wrote:
Weirdly enough, watching comp. DotA becomes way better as I'm starting to know the heroes and understand what's happening better (still have no idea about who's got the lategame, what plan a comp means, etc.). Personally I think it's cause DotA has a lot more intricacies that aren't as obvious to the uninitiated viewer. This holds true for most moba games, altho I think League's a bit more new viewer friendly. Could be due to casters too though. LCS just doesn't have the casting depth as OGN (monte). Monte does a really good job of describing item timings, and rotations, and end game goals of each team, he does a really good job of looking at intricacies of team comps. I feel like LCS casting just really falls short on this aspect, I feel they're not quite as willing to call out teams stalling out for lategame despite having the worse lategame comps, or teams with strong engage with large leads not grouping; etc etc. Also the refreshing thing about this IEM, was krep0 and Froggen talking about ban/pick phase, and really pointing out weaknesses on how teams ban/picked. That's intentional by both parties. Riot assumes that most people that watch LCS haven't really dealt with esports before league. It's difficult for the casters to be harsh on LCS teams because they, for the most part, are Riot employees. It'd be like the boss coming out onto the workfloor and announcing you suck at your job. Meanwhile Monte made a conscious decision, due to how difficult it was to watch Champions live from the west, to develop his cast for a more (I'm going to hate myself for using this term) "hardcore" audience. Yeah, I agree, but even if Riot didn't have that goal, can you seriously say that the LCS casters right now would do as good of a job as Monte does? Show nested quote +On March 17 2014 08:41 Crusnik wrote:
So, why do people care about Steam trading cards? Is there something amazing going on with Steam level's that I'm completely ignorant of or what? it's like achievement and hats.
I think if they were told to do so, that Kobe and Jatt could. Phreak maybe a coinflip. Riv hell naw.
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