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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 25 2013 15:50 GMT
#2261
On September 25 2013 23:14 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 23:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
nah there's nothing wrong with defending your interests but usually i feel like if you have to get so defensive about it you should reevaluate your mindset when approaching your hobby, or more specifically criticism to it

tl;dr hater gun' hate

also i think its not hard to see why people would find kpop creepy, since a large amount of the fandom is basically based around people fantasizing about real people, often with a sexual aspect

i dont care much either way, i dont personally care for kpop, but it's pretty easy to see why people find it pretty weird in general, and you going to great lengths to explain it really doesnt do much to alter conceptions

I find that somewhat depressing. I mean, I took an argumentative writing course in college simply because I like this sort of thing, explaining viewpoints and discussing difference in opinions with people, but of course that assumes that people are willing to listen to all sides of the argument and expand their horizons.

Hell, I'll try anything once. I used to indiscriminately hate on shit I didn't understand and fell outside my norms, but I find I'm much happier since allowing myself to realize that some things may have more than just their surface shows. I used to think the idea of RPGs like D&D was creepy and everyone associated was the type of powergamer neckbeard you see in webcomics, but now I look forward to playing them (except when I get powergamer neckbeard "that guy" like is in my Sandstorm game).


hey i'm a neckbeard powergamer don't be hatin'
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 25 2013 15:53 GMT
#2262
On September 26 2013 00:49 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 00:45 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On September 26 2013 00:34 Scip wrote:
Holy semen soniv that video just me cringe. Especially that part at 0:40 where the guy spins so fast I am just waiting for his arms to get torn out OH GOD I can't watch this


More pressing question: why is your epithet of choice "holy semen"?

Edit: Weirdly, that line was cut out of a L&O:SVU episode themed around the Adam West Batman show.

I mean, if one was to be a godly baby maker, he'd need holy semen right. Therefore scip is a godly baby maker. QED, bro.

scip is holy ovarian wat?
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 25 2013 15:58 GMT
#2263
"holy semen" is a toned down version of "sweet semen of baby jesus" that I heard in one pokemon video once
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 25 2013 16:00 GMT
#2264
On September 26 2013 00:58 Scip wrote:
"holy semen" is a toned down version of "sweet semen of baby jesus" that I heard in one pokemon video once


...

Well... I asked.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 25 2013 16:01 GMT
#2265
holy sweet semen of baby jesus BATMAN
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 25 2013 16:04 GMT
#2266
Scip you're my favorite euro
Bronze player stuck in platinum
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 25 2013 16:14 GMT
#2267
On September 26 2013 01:00 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 00:58 Scip wrote:
"holy semen" is a toned down version of "sweet semen of baby jesus" that I heard in one pokemon video once


...

Well... I asked.

Have you not seen that video?
+ Show Spoiler +
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 25 2013 16:19 GMT
#2268
On September 25 2013 23:13 kainzero wrote:
I don't think hobbies are weird, I think individual people are weird.

So I'm not really defensive about mine.
Then again, I was an apologist AKB48 fan, lol.

Plz, Perfume > all
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 25 2013 16:25 GMT
#2269
On September 26 2013 01:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 23:13 kainzero wrote:
I don't think hobbies are weird, I think individual people are weird.

So I'm not really defensive about mine.
Then again, I was an apologist AKB48 fan, lol.

Plz, Perfume > all

Heavy Rotation is like the most Japan MV to ever come out of a Jpop group.
It's your boy Guzma!
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 16:44:48
September 25 2013 16:36 GMT
#2270
On September 25 2013 22:52 Requizen wrote:
Then you're entirely missing the point of the story. If you're focusing on the disabilities, then of course it's trite and in bad taste. But the point of each story was that it never focused on anyone's disability other than perhaps Hanako's crippling social anxiety, which is tangentially related to her burns. The stories are about rather normal issues that people have in relationships and how who we are on the outside doesn't change that. It's not even about "being beautiful on the inside", it's about how people are people and how you deal with normal issues like trust, boundaries, and interdependence.

No, I as a matter of fact I didn't miss that point, because the game advertised this so called "message" so crudely they might as well have called the game "handicapped people are people too!". There are really no redeeming factors to the writing of this game, it's just forced dialogue with shallow characters in settings and situations that have been done to death many times over.

Edit: MLP is damn good television.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 25 2013 16:40 GMT
#2271
On September 26 2013 01:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 23:13 kainzero wrote:
I don't think hobbies are weird, I think individual people are weird.

So I'm not really defensive about mine.
Then again, I was an apologist AKB48 fan, lol.

Plz, Perfume > all

I don't care who is greater than who. I like both.

(Or actually, I liked both. AKB is pretty boring now. Their sister group NMB from Osaka, on the other hand...)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 17:07:04
September 25 2013 16:57 GMT
#2272
On September 26 2013 01:36 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 22:52 Requizen wrote:
Then you're entirely missing the point of the story. If you're focusing on the disabilities, then of course it's trite and in bad taste. But the point of each story was that it never focused on anyone's disability other than perhaps Hanako's crippling social anxiety, which is tangentially related to her burns. The stories are about rather normal issues that people have in relationships and how who we are on the outside doesn't change that. It's not even about "being beautiful on the inside", it's about how people are people and how you deal with normal issues like trust, boundaries, and interdependence.

No, I as a matter of fact I didn't miss that point, because the game advertised this so called "message" so crudely they might as well have called the game "handicapped people are people too!". There are really no redeeming factors to the writing of this game, it's just forced dialogue with shallow characters in settings and situations that have been done to death many times over.

No redeeming factors? Done to death? That's the most hyperbolic shit I've ever seen in my life. I read a lot. I used to get in trouble in English class for finishing the curriculum in the first two months. I chewed through Tolkein's extended lore when I was in grade school. I picked up Dante, Sun Tzu, and the Quran because I was bored. I've watched romance animes, read fantasy and fiction, read manga you've never even heard of.

So when I say that, as an avid reader, the story didn't feel trite or rehashed, the dialogue for 90% of the game felt fluid, and the characters had more depth than nearly every novel I've read written past the year 1995, I can't imagine a scenario in which you could prove otherwise.

I'm beginning to doubt you even played it in the first place.

-You compare it to a harem anime, saying, and I quote, "Hey guys, let's take the same 6 archetypes that exist in every fucking harem anime, ever, and put them in a dating sim". However, the game never takes the form of a harem at any point, and in fact punishes you for waffling between girls. Also, the standard harem females are tsundere main (doesn't exist), shrinking violet that secretly loves the MC (arguably Hanako, but she doesn't share many traits), forward girl who pushes onto the MC but doesn't really have feelings for him (doesn't exist), and girl that isn't interested outwardly but at the end says she wants to marry him anyway (the only thing close enough is Rin, but that doesn't fit her arc at all)

-You attack the game by insulting the people who poured their time into developing it over 5 years. Not only is that childish and crude, it's also an ad-hominem attack that does nothing but make you look like an ass.

-You use the term "Visual Novel" as if it's an insult. That's what it is. There was never any smoke and mirrors or fabrication about it being action packed or anything. It's a visual novel, a story written to illustrate romance and the interaction between people that are in their formative years and are dealing with pain both physical and emotional.

-At no point does it ever try to force "handicapped people are people too!" on the reader. If that's how you're interpreting it, then I guess you're just trying to find flaws. Hisao thinks like that during act 1, but the points where disabilities are even mentioned in any route past that are few and far between. In fact, Hisao's disability is the one most talked about because he's such a bitch about it at times, the game almost never focuses on the girls' differences once you get into a route. I don't even they mention Rin's arms except when Hisao is feeding her oranges.

It just sounds like you really want to insult this thing for one reason or another. You're just leveling broad (and somewhat incorrect) criticisms without talking about anything in particular.

Edit: As I see, you're an MLP fan. I often see the two fangroups bickering due to some kind of stupid 4chan rivalry. I'll be very disappointed if that's the root cause of this.
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 25 2013 17:02 GMT
#2273
I like you Req.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 25 2013 17:08 GMT
#2274
On September 26 2013 02:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I like you Req.

I was on the fence because I thought he was a little overdefensive but holy shit did he just bury Osmoses.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 25 2013 17:09 GMT
#2275
Yo the weather is really nice

Do you guys like weather?

... :D
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 25 2013 17:10 GMT
#2276
On September 26 2013 02:09 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Yo the weather is really nice

Do you guys like weather?

... :D

Default topic changing topic! Current weather is good, actually feels like fall.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 25 2013 17:10 GMT
#2277
On September 26 2013 02:09 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Yo the weather is really nice

Do you guys like weather?

... :D

Reminds me of that old bash.org quote lolol
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 25 2013 17:13 GMT
#2278
Sunny and beautiful.

All I want to do is play frisbee right now.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 17:15:24
September 25 2013 17:13 GMT
#2279
Soniv did you do a lot of bodyweight excersizes when you were a gymnast? I'm at 155 lbs 5'10 and I can't help but feel fat (l know I'm not, but since I have very little muscle mass it feels like that). I have no time for the gym during the school week, which fucking sucks since I had the time of my life working out over the summer. I figure I might just start bodyweight excersizes at home, even though the progress is probably much slower than lifting.

edit: Exercise is the one word I will always misspell and I ain't even mad.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 25 2013 17:14 GMT
#2280
On September 26 2013 02:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I like you Req.

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