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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 06:34:06
September 25 2013 06:33 GMT
#2221
On September 25 2013 15:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 14:41 HazMat wrote:
On September 25 2013 14:25 Requizen wrote:
Well on the other hand, not all of us will end up in relationships, so this is often the next best thing

It shouldn't be a replacement for a relationship... that's when it gets creepy. Don't let idols kill your drive.

2d waifu's best waifus.

Also, I'll let you guys know, you find Kpop creepy.
But no one speaks up about when people are talking for frevently about Katawa Shoujo, which is essentially a sim for trying to get with a handicapped girl.

JUST SAYING. GUIZ. JUST SAYING.

Um...I have?

Edit: In b4 Req horseshit about how it's a 'great story' and whatnot.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 25 2013 06:43 GMT
#2222
On September 25 2013 15:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 15:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 25 2013 14:41 HazMat wrote:
On September 25 2013 14:25 Requizen wrote:
Well on the other hand, not all of us will end up in relationships, so this is often the next best thing

It shouldn't be a replacement for a relationship... that's when it gets creepy. Don't let idols kill your drive.

2d waifu's best waifus.

Also, I'll let you guys know, you find Kpop creepy.
But no one speaks up about when people are talking for frevently about Katawa Shoujo, which is essentially a sim for trying to get with a handicapped girl.

JUST SAYING. GUIZ. JUST SAYING.

Um...I have?

Edit: In b4 Req horseshit about how it's a 'great story' and whatnot.

Whoa, one mans shit, is another man's treasure.
Req isn't the only one who likes it as well, you're insulting a lot of people's taste with that last comment. (not me, I quit half way through Katawa Shoujo )
liftlift > tsm
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 25 2013 06:45 GMT
#2223
I am a big fan of the Kpop music, I actually listen to it semi-frequently, but idol wise I don't think any Kpop star can compete with Willow Smith or Carly Rae Jepson. Those 2 are on a whole another level.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 06:52:22
September 25 2013 06:51 GMT
#2224
On September 25 2013 15:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 15:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 25 2013 14:41 HazMat wrote:
On September 25 2013 14:25 Requizen wrote:
Well on the other hand, not all of us will end up in relationships, so this is often the next best thing

It shouldn't be a replacement for a relationship... that's when it gets creepy. Don't let idols kill your drive.

2d waifu's best waifus.

Also, I'll let you guys know, you find Kpop creepy.
But no one speaks up about when people are talking for frevently about Katawa Shoujo, which is essentially a sim for trying to get with a handicapped girl.

JUST SAYING. GUIZ. JUST SAYING.

Um...I have?

Edit: In b4 Req horseshit about how it's a 'great story' and whatnot.

It's like when bronies say they watch MLP because it has a great storyline. Okay, you like the storyline, but there's gotta be more to it if you have wallpapers and plushies and fanfiction of it everywhere. You must REALLY like the story.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 25 2013 06:53 GMT
#2225
On September 25 2013 15:51 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 15:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 25 2013 15:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 25 2013 14:41 HazMat wrote:
On September 25 2013 14:25 Requizen wrote:
Well on the other hand, not all of us will end up in relationships, so this is often the next best thing

It shouldn't be a replacement for a relationship... that's when it gets creepy. Don't let idols kill your drive.

2d waifu's best waifus.

Also, I'll let you guys know, you find Kpop creepy.
But no one speaks up about when people are talking for frevently about Katawa Shoujo, which is essentially a sim for trying to get with a handicapped girl.

JUST SAYING. GUIZ. JUST SAYING.

Um...I have?

Edit: In b4 Req horseshit about how it's a 'great story' and whatnot.

It's like when bronies say they watch MLP because it has a great storyline. Okay, you like the storyline, but there's gotta be more to it if you have wallpapers and plushies and fanfiction of it everywhere. You must REALLY like the story.

or the tight pony asses.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 25 2013 06:53 GMT
#2226
I think I insulted too many subcultures today, gonna call it a day. Sleep time gnight. Uzi op. Please don't h8 me.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 25 2013 10:41 GMT
#2227
I tried Katawa Shoujo because they wouldn't shut up about it on 4chan, and it turns out far from being weird or emotional or different or whatever IT'S JUST A BORING AS FUCK DATING SIM. Jesus christ, the writing, the pacing, the characters, it's like bad really fanfiction.

Hey guys, let's take the same 6 archetypes that exist in every fucking harem anime, ever, and put them in a dating sim, again, but this time let's give them disabilities because that will make it interesting and different.

It's not different and it's not interesting. It's hardly even a game. You get to make like one choice every half hour, so it's more like a visual novel. A really bad visual novel about japan teen romance written by a bunch of western, middle-aged, basement-dwelling, body-pillow hugging, foreveralone weeaboos.

... This review wasn't supposed to turn out this hateful when I started writing it. I guess I just really hate when people like what I don't like.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 11:19:55
September 25 2013 11:18 GMT
#2228
I didn't like katawa shoujo either and I actually finished three of the girls, boring as fuck and it just feels cheap that "OH THEY'RE CRIPPLED LOOK AT THE FEEEEELS"
Emi was awful, shizune was boring for like 99%,got mildly interesting then they just decide to end it right there and I don't even remember how hanako went.
Glorious SEA doto
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 12:45:21
September 25 2013 12:44 GMT
#2229
On September 25 2013 14:04 HazMat wrote:
But they're teenage girls, you expect that. I was starting middle school when the Bieber craze started.


Jesus I feel old.

On September 25 2013 14:08 ticklishmusic wrote:
Bieber is a huge scrub. He sits at the NBA finals, doesn't watch, just sits there playing Candy Crush, and I bet he's not even good at it.


Did you seriously just open a criticism of a celebrity with "I bet he's not even good at [Candy Crush]"?
TranslatorBaa!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#2230
On September 25 2013 21:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 14:04 HazMat wrote:
But they're teenage girls, you expect that. I was starting middle school when the Bieber craze started.


Jesus I feel old.

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 14:08 ticklishmusic wrote:
Bieber is a huge scrub. He sits at the NBA finals, doesn't watch, just sits there playing Candy Crush, and I bet he's not even good at it.


Did you seriously just open a criticism of a celebrity with "I bet he's not even good at [Candy Crush]"?

Oh Cheep.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#2231
On September 25 2013 21:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 14:04 HazMat wrote:
But they're teenage girls, you expect that. I was starting middle school when the Bieber craze started.


Jesus I feel old.

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 14:08 ticklishmusic wrote:
Bieber is a huge scrub. He sits at the NBA finals, doesn't watch, just sits there playing Candy Crush, and I bet he's not even good at it.


Did you seriously just open a criticism of a celebrity with "I bet he's not even good at [Candy Crush]"?


Well, everything else about Bieber is just too obviously bad to criticize.
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Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
September 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#2232
On September 25 2013 21:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 14:04 HazMat wrote:
But they're teenage girls, you expect that. I was starting middle school when the Bieber craze started.


Jesus I feel old.

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 14:08 ticklishmusic wrote:
Bieber is a huge scrub. He sits at the NBA finals, doesn't watch, just sits there playing Candy Crush, and I bet he's not even good at it.


Did you seriously just open a criticism of a celebrity with "I bet he's not even good at [Candy Crush]"?


How good you are at candy crush is directly related to how valuable a person and human being you are
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 25 2013 13:23 GMT
#2233
KS didn't sweep me off my feet. I kinda liked the writing, I was expecting way worse though so it was a nice surprise (and I'm not hard to please in general).
In the end what I enjoyed most was the discussions I had with other peole regarding the situations, interpretations, and the parallels with similar situations that happened to people we know. It's not necessarily about the game/movie/book/whatever, but also what you take out of it I guess.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
September 25 2013 13:39 GMT
#2234
I used to like KPop (2008-2011) probably because it made me feel younger again /reminded me of the 90's.

Now I realize like 85% of it is pretty bad and/or groups got big and churn out crap now.

Ah I remember the days of browsing TL Kpop thread or browsing Soshi forums after HS......

2009 Kpop Era best.
Forever Young
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 25 2013 13:52 GMT
#2235
On September 25 2013 15:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 15:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 25 2013 14:41 HazMat wrote:
On September 25 2013 14:25 Requizen wrote:
Well on the other hand, not all of us will end up in relationships, so this is often the next best thing

It shouldn't be a replacement for a relationship... that's when it gets creepy. Don't let idols kill your drive.

2d waifu's best waifus.

Also, I'll let you guys know, you find Kpop creepy.
But no one speaks up about when people are talking for frevently about Katawa Shoujo, which is essentially a sim for trying to get with a handicapped girl.

JUST SAYING. GUIZ. JUST SAYING.

Um...I have?

Edit: In b4 Req horseshit about how it's a 'great story' and whatnot.

It is a great story, depending on the route and what you expect out of it.

inb4 Wave 2 line "nah it's creepy" without any justification or discussion.

On September 25 2013 15:51 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 15:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 25 2013 15:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 25 2013 14:41 HazMat wrote:
On September 25 2013 14:25 Requizen wrote:
Well on the other hand, not all of us will end up in relationships, so this is often the next best thing

It shouldn't be a replacement for a relationship... that's when it gets creepy. Don't let idols kill your drive.

2d waifu's best waifus.

Also, I'll let you guys know, you find Kpop creepy.
But no one speaks up about when people are talking for frevently about Katawa Shoujo, which is essentially a sim for trying to get with a handicapped girl.

JUST SAYING. GUIZ. JUST SAYING.

Um...I have?

Edit: In b4 Req horseshit about how it's a 'great story' and whatnot.

It's like when bronies say they watch MLP because it has a great storyline. Okay, you like the storyline, but there's gotta be more to it if you have wallpapers and plushies and fanfiction of it everywhere. You must REALLY like the story.

I don't enjoy MLP. I gave it a couple episodes because a couple of the guys in my D&D group were into it, and didn't like it, but I can see how people who are into western cartoons might like it. The community isn't even that bad unless you're at /mlp/, which is basically just X-rated fanfiction, and you can say that about any fandom.

On September 25 2013 19:41 Osmoses wrote:
I tried Katawa Shoujo because they wouldn't shut up about it on 4chan, and it turns out far from being weird or emotional or different or whatever IT'S JUST A BORING AS FUCK DATING SIM. Jesus christ, the writing, the pacing, the characters, it's like bad really fanfiction.

Hey guys, let's take the same 6 archetypes that exist in every fucking harem anime, ever, and put them in a dating sim, again, but this time let's give them disabilities because that will make it interesting and different.

It's not different and it's not interesting. It's hardly even a game. You get to make like one choice every half hour, so it's more like a visual novel. A really bad visual novel about japan teen romance written by a bunch of western, middle-aged, basement-dwelling, body-pillow hugging, foreveralone weeaboos.

... This review wasn't supposed to turn out this hateful when I started writing it. I guess I just really hate when people like what I don't like.

On September 25 2013 20:18 Fusilero wrote:
I didn't like katawa shoujo either and I actually finished three of the girls, boring as fuck and it just feels cheap that "OH THEY'RE CRIPPLED LOOK AT THE FEEEEELS"
Emi was awful, shizune was boring for like 99%,got mildly interesting then they just decide to end it right there and I don't even remember how hanako went.

Then you're entirely missing the point of the story. If you're focusing on the disabilities, then of course it's trite and in bad taste. But the point of each story was that it never focused on anyone's disability other than perhaps Hanako's crippling social anxiety, which is tangentially related to her burns. The stories are about rather normal issues that people have in relationships and how who we are on the outside doesn't change that. It's not even about "being beautiful on the inside", it's about how people are people and how you deal with normal issues like trust, boundaries, and interdependence.

If you couldn't get into the story for whatever reason, maybe you just don't like romances because of the lack of action or the high school setting, then that's whatever. But to say "it's dumb because crippled chicks" is possibly the stupidest criticism you can level because it clearly shows you didn't even pay attention to anything that was happening, and you're as thick as Hisao is for most of it.


I'm rather disappointed in this place. Attempting to make people feel bad about the things they like is hilarious coming from people who spend a good chunk of their days playing a MOBA (which is about one step away from being an MMO) and another good portion on an online gaming forum. You're trying to tell people that what they like is creepy because it's different, when during my school years you'd get laughed at for reading a book instead of playing basketball during recess. My socially-unacceptable shut-in oriented hobby is stranger than yours because it involves women and romance? K, you can go back to talking about getting swole and hooking up with random chicks if you want to feel superior again, I just don't care anymore lol.
It's your boy Guzma!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
September 25 2013 13:57 GMT
#2236
damn you sound defensive as fuck

have you considered that the fact that you have to feel defensive about it might be indicative of something?
TranslatorBaa!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 25 2013 14:03 GMT
#2237
People are allowed to defend their hobbies when they're passionate about them and believe that people are incorrectly maligning them, especially if they find those people to be reasonable and intelligent in other capacities.

I have to do it about video games and eSports all the time, so I don't understand why 'being defensive' is a bad thing when it's about something you like.

It's like calling someone a 'tryhard.'
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 25 2013 14:04 GMT
#2238
On September 25 2013 23:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:
People are allowed to defend their hobbies when they're passionate about them and believe that people are incorrectly maligning them, especially if they find those people to be reasonable and intelligent in other capacities.

I have to do it about video games and eSports all the time, so I don't understand why 'being defensive' is a bad thing when it's about something you like.

It's like calling someone a 'tryhard.'


^

I too have, and still do, get defensive when my hobbies/interests get heavily criticized. You think growing up being a male gymnast was easy?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
September 25 2013 14:06 GMT
#2239
On September 25 2013 23:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 23:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:
People are allowed to defend their hobbies when they're passionate about them and believe that people are incorrectly maligning them, especially if they find those people to be reasonable and intelligent in other capacities.

I have to do it about video games and eSports all the time, so I don't understand why 'being defensive' is a bad thing when it's about something you like.

It's like calling someone a 'tryhard.'


^

I too have, and still do, get defensive when my hobbies/interests get heavily criticized. You think growing up being a male gymnast was easy?


Just out of curiosity; when did you start, for how long did you continue training, and how tall are you?

I've never met someone who did gymnastics for more than 5-7 years break 5"5/164cm.
Forever Young
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 25 2013 14:07 GMT
#2240
On September 25 2013 22:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
damn you sound defensive as fuck

have you considered that the fact that you have to feel defensive about it might be indicative of something?

I don't understand this criticism. I posted multiple times with logical reasons as to why I enjoy the idol industry and why I spend a lot of time on kpop sites. People asked why kpop fans are as "creepy" as they are (and in a none-too-polite tone, I may add), and I really tried to have a polite discourse.

This, of course, is met with "lol creepy" and "stop fantasizing". I attempt to further explain, similar responses.

There's nothing creepy about it if you think about it. In the kpop discussion- they're entertainers, I'm being entertained by them. It's not that different from anything else, but because there is the added layer of them being cute girls it's automatically unnatural. For VNs, because it's a story based around romance it's automatically strange.

On September 25 2013 23:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 23:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:
People are allowed to defend their hobbies when they're passionate about them and believe that people are incorrectly maligning them, especially if they find those people to be reasonable and intelligent in other capacities.

I have to do it about video games and eSports all the time, so I don't understand why 'being defensive' is a bad thing when it's about something you like.

It's like calling someone a 'tryhard.'


^

I too have, and still do, get defensive when my hobbies/interests get heavily criticized. You think growing up being a male gymnast was easy?

Thank you, this is basically what I was attempting to say.
It's your boy Guzma!
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