EPTHomeStory Cup 26 (Nov 29-Dec 1) - Page 7
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-bovo fun fact, clem beat gumiho 2-1 to qualify | ||
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On December 02 2024 05:13 Poopi wrote: Lol Clem having to use protoss to stand a chance versus Gumiho... Maru why did you lose to Gumiho, could have been a doable win with just TvT and Clem eliminating Serral To be fair, I doubt Maru could beat Clem in TvT with how he was playing. | ||
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Clem is somehow sloppier than even herO, love to see it. I really love it when players show us their vaunted off-races when there’s something on the line | ||
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On December 02 2024 06:44 Antithesis wrote: The level of play between Serral and Clem is surreal. Crazy how no one comes close to pushing Serral like this. Oliveira came close to that at uh iem was it iirc? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25665 Posts
On December 02 2024 06:50 darklycid wrote: Oliveira came close to that at uh iem was it iirc? Dreamhack Spring in the Ro4 I think? Or season finals or whatever they call it now Good series! Although Serral has an 80% set win and is 14-0 in series against Oliveira, he doesn’t typically struggle against him. Or any other Terran for that matter. They were practice partners before that event and playing an absolute crapload of games, I wonder if Oliveira was able to pick up on a few tendencies of Serral’s and exploit them a little in a way it’s quite hard for non-practice partners to have the volume of info to do. Still played bloody well So for Clem to not just go 50/50 with Serral but be actively stomping him is pretty nuts! Shades of when Maru was still pretty peerless in TvZ but Serral was a brick wall, although other Zergs could still beat him. Oddly enough Serral still leads the set and match head to head despite this recent pummelling, 52% and 62%, which I think attests to quite how long it took Clem to get reliably on his current level. Speaking of everyone’s favourite Frenchmen, will we see his Toss again? Some really atypical sloppiness (adept donations, about 8 Collosus donations) aside, he was giving Gumigod a hell of a game | ||
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WombaT
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On December 02 2024 06:44 Antithesis wrote: The level of play between Serral and Clem is surreal. Crazy how no one comes close to pushing Serral like this. In recent times, some Maru versus Serral sets and Serral and Clem just consistently StarCraft of a pure quality of play I don’t think we’ve seen before, it’s insane. Of course half the audience seemingly would rather balance whine than just enjoy it, but hey! Man when Innovation first burst into prominence way back in 2013 at that time I felt similarly, indeed I didn’t really see how someone could be much better at SC2 than what he was showing then. Maru in various guises somehow managed it, and now we’ve got this version of Clem. His macro is pretty much just as terrifying but he’s even better at micro and multitasking Also haha just recalling that Gumiho didn’t actually notice Clem picked Toss and the probe gave it away, imagine if Clem had gone for a late scout! | ||
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Waxangel
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On December 02 2024 07:41 WombaT wrote: Dreamhack Spring in the Ro4 I think? Or season finals or whatever they call it now Good series! Although Serral has an 80% set win and is 14-0 in series against Oliveira, he doesn’t typically struggle against him. Or any other Terran for that matter. They were practice partners before that event and playing an absolute crapload of games, I wonder if Oliveira was able to pick up on a few tendencies of Serral’s and exploit them a little in a way it’s quite hard for non-practice partners to have the volume of info to do. Still played bloody well So for Clem to not just go 50/50 with Serral but be actively stomping him is pretty nuts! Shades of when Maru was still pretty peerless in TvZ but Serral was a brick wall, although other Zergs could still beat him. Oddly enough Serral still leads the set and match head to head despite this recent pummelling, 52% and 62%, which I think attests to quite how long it took Clem to get reliably on his current level. Speaking of everyone’s favourite Frenchmen, will we see his Toss again? Some really atypical sloppiness (adept donations, about 8 Collosus donations) aside, he was giving Gumigod a hell of a game I think that's oversimplifying things and not giving Oliveira enough credit. He really did push him to the verge of defeat at a time where Clem was unfavored vs Serral (or at best 50/50). Pre-EWC, it was easily a performance you could classify as Clem-tier. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25665 Posts
On December 02 2024 07:52 Waxangel wrote: I think that's oversimplifying things and not giving Oliveira enough credit. He really did push him to the verge of defeat at a time where Clem was unfavored vs Serral (or at best 50/50). Pre-EWC, it was easily a performance you could classify as Clem-tier. I only undersell Oliveira to compensate for folks overselling him. Nah I kid I’m not really saying anything Oliveira himself didn’t say, both him and Serral talked about how useful it was to have a practice partner of such a high level to just grind with. Oliveira also went on in an interview with the Chinese scene that someone reposted here to say he got the chance to throw the kitchen sink at Serral and find what works. It’s not a diss on Oliveira, indeed I think it’d be quite interesting to ponder what some rivalries would look like if both participants practiced hundreds of games against each other. I actually thought Oliveira brought a blueprint that few could copy, but Maru could. A fair few games it was big, committed pushes immaculately controlled, something I think is still within Maru’s wheelhouse. I don’t think anyone can reliably play Clem’s tempo-based death by a thousand cuts kind of style bar him, to the level you can pick Serral apart. Oliveira could on a good day perhaps but when he did show success it was more reminiscent of Innovation bludgeoning opponents. | ||
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